Re: [Audacity-quality] Exporting audio files

[Peter S. <pet...@gm...>]

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Peter Sampson <
pet...@gm...> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8 November 2017 at 16:17, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...>
>> wrote:
>> > I'll go on record disliking "Save other," but that's only one voice.
>>
>> and just one voice from me too, hence the reason for raising the matter
>> on-list.
>>
>
>
> In my production use of Audacity I find myself increasingly disliking the
> two clicks to get to the Exports
> and indeed, even now having to remember to use Save Other (a "Save"
> command to make an "Export").
>
> Firing up 2.1.3 again makes me long for the key Export commands (Audio,
> Multiple, Selected).
>
> In 2.2.0/2.2.1 I do not value the Export as MP3, Export as WAV and Export
> as OGG, always using the
> Export Audio.
>


But if we do keep these three (sub)commands then I strongly think that we
should have pre-assigned shortcuts
for them - especially of they stay in a sub-menu.

It is quite difficult to set shortcuts - and horrendously difficult trying
to find available unused ones.

Peter




>
> I see no reason not to pul at least Export Audio and Export Multiple to
> the top level of the File Menu and
> replacing the !"Save Other" with "Export Other".
>
> This is my user-POV
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>>
>> >
>> > Maybe Forum should decide, but maybe you get a biased sample, those
>> > disliking the change more likely to say so.
>>
>> Most definitely so, but more than just "not liking the change". We are
>> getting feedback that users are confused by the fact that they can't
>> find where / how to export.
>>
>
>
> We do have to remember, as you Steve used to point out to Gale, that a
> small no of posters on the Forum
> is a *very* small sample of our user base.
>
> One of the posters today did ask about customizable menus - is that still
> in your thinking James?
>
> Peter.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I do not require or prohibit this change.  If someone decides to change
>> it,
>> > I hope you reuse an already internationalized string _("Export") so .pot
>> > doesn't need another update.
>>
>> Good point.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> >
>> > PRL
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:13 AM, James Crook <cr...@in...> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 11/8/2017 3:50 PM, Steve the Fiddle wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 8 November 2017 at 15:40, James Crook <cr...@in...> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Doer decides?  You can change it - though perhaps formally get
>> Paul's OK
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> do it since he is (or will be) 2.2.1 RM?  I care about the menus
>> being
>> >>>> much
>> >>>> better organised than they were, not about every single detail.  And
>> if
>> >>>> you
>> >>>> do change it, you'll be taking responsibility for all those
>> >>>> inexperienced
>> >>>> users who don't find how to 'Save' as wav!
>> >>>
>> >>> Sure, but we're a team, right?
>> >>> We have some (admittedly limited) feedback, and I've cast my 2c.
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes I agree that the menu reorganisation is the more important (and
>> >>> much improved) part, so just talking details here.
>> >>>
>> >>> What do others think? "Save Other" or "Export" or something else?
>> >>> Assuming  that the rest of the File menu remains the same, I'm +1 for
>> >>> "Export"
>> >>
>> >> If we're voting I'm -1 on it changing from "Save Other" - but if it
>> were
>> >> just us two voting and no one else, then I think it should change.  I
>> think
>> >> I am right in my choice, but I don't think you are terribly misguidedly
>> >> wrong in yours, and the (small) inconvenience to inexperienced users
>> matters
>> >> less to me than you wanting to change it, because of feedback you have
>> >> received, and not being able to.
>> >>
>> >> By contrast I do care a lot more about record-beside and record-below,
>> >> which we also disagree on.  If it came to a vote I would put energy
>> into
>> >> getting consensus on my side about record-beside being the default.
>> >>
>> >> --James.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Steve
>> >>>
>> >>>> By the way, I would also like to condense the two optional
>> extra-menus
>> >>>> into
>> >>>> one.  However, if I do that it's for 2.2.2 rather than 2.2.1 given
>> the
>> >>>> timescales.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --James.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 11/8/2017 3:04 PM, Steve the Fiddle wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> We're getting quite a few people asking how to export a normal audio
>> >>>>> file.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It would seem that renaming "Export" as "Save Other" has created as
>> >>>>> much confusion  as it resolved.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> My personal view is that with the current File menu layout, the
>> least
>> >>>>> confusing would be to rename "Save Other" back to "Export". Imo, the
>> >>>>> reduced size of the menu and improved menu order does enough to draw
>> >>>>> attention to the Export menu item without removing the "E" word.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Steve
>> >>
>> >>
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