Re: [Audacity-quality] Menu Structure Changes

[Gale A. <ga...@au...>]

On 25 March 2017 at 22:29, Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...> wrote:
> On 25 March 2017 at 22:16, Gale Andrews <ga...@au...> wrote:
>> Thanks, Robert.
>>
>> Surely that document has to be a consensus. If everyone adds
>> their own columns or someone indicates a position change
>> and someone else indicates a different position change it becomes
>> unusable.
>>
>> Also note there is a suggestion with two votes on Wording Talk
>> page:
>>
>> Change "Ends to zero Crossings" to "At Zero Crossings".
>>
>> I see no way to edit the document using the "editable" link
>> even when signed into Dropbox. Clicking a cell does not
>> open it for editing. So could you consider adding that "At Zero
>> Crossings" idea, Robert?
>>
>> Can someone explain why we would want any of the current
>> "Cursor to" items in Transport?
>
> You could think of it like skipping to a track on a CD player.
>
> Steve

You can't even use it when the track is playing. It has nothing to
do with Transport, IMO.

And if not in Edit Menu, why not in a "Move cursor to" cascade in
View below "Skip"? The commands currently in "Transport > Cursor
to" do the same as the View > Skip commands - change View
without zooming - the only difference being that the skip commands
don't actually move the selection.

I urge us to think of people trying to find where those commands
have gone.



Gale

>> Select is in Edit, as is
>> traditional, despite transport starts from the selection. My
>> problem is that Transport is almost the last place I would look
>> for commands to move the cursor.
>>
>> If Edit menu would be too long by moving these commands back
>> there, perhaps create a new Labels menu?
>>
>>
>> Gale
>>
>>
>> On 25 March 2017 at 10:26, Robert Hänggi <aar...@gm...> wrote:
>>> Hi James
>>>>
>>>> Cool.
>>>>
>>>> Could you add a column for 'Coding Required'.
>>>>
>>>> e.g. splitting Recent Projects into files and audio requires new code,
>>>> rather than just moving the menu items about.  Similarly open last
>>>> effect (which idea I like) also requires coding as there isn't yet a
>>>> menu item to do that.
>>>>
>>>> OR, could you add some automatic mark up so that old-index 1- to 9- are
>>> I can change the old indices
>>> such that they skip the select menu as if it would have been there all the time.
>>> Thus, a simple comparison between old and new index would indicate a change like
>>> - new item from scratch
>>> - new item from commands
>>> - deleted item
>>> - moved item
>>> etc.
>>> One can of course insert conditional formatting of the rows depending
>>> on the value of this column.
>>> However, a sighted team member could probably do that better than I.
>>>
>>>> in bold (they exist already) 20- in light blue (they exist already but
>>>> are new in the menus) and 30- in dark blue (they don't exist as commands
>>>> yet)
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> Please incorporate suggestions that are relevant from other people, such
>>>> as Steve's that 'Scrub Ruler (on/off)' migrate into Toolbars. The reason
>>>> for the document is to gather the suggestions into one place rather than
>>>> spread between lots of emails.
>>>>
>>> Everyone can add his own column with either a +1 for a change he likes
>>> or other suggestions.
>>> It's difficult to track each and every suggestion that bubbles up
>>> during those lengthy email conversations.
>>> A lot is not settled yet anyway and I could only add my subjective
>>> opinion and an initial change proposition.
>>>
>>>> ----
>>>>
>>>> Could you also comment on the 'toggle' sub menu within select?
>>> You mean the Tracks sub menu? The toggle entries are just part of it.
>>> "Toggle" is a independent entry that inverts or flips the selectivity
>>> of the tracks,
>>> selected <>unselected. Steve coined it "toggle" but I think the name
>>> could much improve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>   Is it actually 'focus' rather than 'toggle'?
>>>
>>> Those toggle entries for the focused track do indeed include or
>>> exclude a track from the selection.
>>>
>>>> Are 20-850 and 20-860 the same?
>>>
>>> Same command, different shortcuts, one is "Return" and the other
>>> "Numpad Enter" but we can't list both in a menu therefore I took the
>>> one present on Desktop and Laptop equally. Compare also double
>>> assignment for e.g. "Play"--Space and Alt+P.
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> For 'naming change recommended', please change to concrete
>>>> recommendation e.g:
>>>>
>>>> Recommending Mix->Stereo-to-Mono
>>>>
>>> I was hesitant to do that.
>>> I would have dropped the "Render" expression--somewhat misleading for
>>> audio IMHO.
>>> Probably rather:
>>>
>>> Mix Down
>>>    Stereo to Mono
>>>    Into Single Track
>>>    Into New Track Below
>>> There are also two additions possible:
>>> Gain
>>> Pan
>>>
>>> which "burn" the slider settings permanently
>>> in place for  the selected tracks without summing them into one track.
>>> One could call that "Render Pan/Gain".
>>>
>>>  > ----
>>>>
>>>> What does 'Manual "&" in Toolbars' mean?
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Reset Toolbars" is rendered by my screen reader as "Reset Toolb&ars".
>>> I think there are two '&' in the entry, one before 'r' and one before 'a'.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> --James.
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