Re: [Audacity-quality] How to set Waveform (dB) the default view

[Paul L. <pau...@gm...>]

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Peter Sampson <pet...@ya...>
wrote:

> The trouble here Paul, is that experienced users of  Audacity like Steve
> and myself struggle to find how to achieve this then you can be sure that
> many of our users will struggle too.
>
> And one of the outcomes of that will be an increased no of support "calls"
> on the Forum and on feedback@ => increased workload for the Forum
> elves.
>
> It might help a little if in the Preferences left hand menu the "Waveforms"
> and "Spectrograms" entries were moved to be directly under the "Tracks"
> entry so that they are effectively grouped.
>

Excellent idea.  I have suggested making a tree of the left-hand column of
Preferences.  I will do that.

Another thing I have mentioned that nobody else yet responded to, is that
Spectrograms preferences (and view settings) might also be split up into a
few simpler pages.  I think algorithm choice and window type and size and
zero padding would belong in one such page separate from the rest.



>
> The Preferences pane for "Waveforms" is very empty - surely it would be
> easier to lose this new preference and revert to  addiing "Waveform (dB)"
> back as an option in the dropdown for "Default view mode" in the Tracks
> preferences pane.  This would have the benefits of simplicity, clarity
> and discoverability.
>

Maybe.  I do strongly believe that the four Spectrogram view types and the
Pitch view should be collapsed into one menu item, and the choice of
algorithm and scale type moved to a View Settings... dialog, instead of
needing a drop-down menu item for every combination of algorithm and scale
type and spectral selection.

Having done that, it seemed to make sense that the choice of scale type for
Waveform ought to be treated similarly.  There is a kind of symmetry there.

PRL


>
> Cheers,
> Peter.
> Peter Sampson Tel: +44 (0)1625 524 780
>
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> *From:* Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...>
> *To:* Peter Sampson <pet...@ya...>
> *Cc:* audacity-quality <aud...@li...>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2015 6:56 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Audacity-quality] How to set Waveform (dB) the default
> view
>
> This is all incorrect, see my other response.  You need a combination of
> Tracks and Waveforms preferences but it can be done.
> PRL
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Peter Sampson <pet...@ya...>
> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure you can, hmmmm  ...
>
> Unlike Spectrogram view which has Preferences as well as per track settings
> Waveform only appears to have per track settings that apply to that one
> track
> only - and thus it doesn't appear to be a  setting that will propagate to
> other tracks
> or persist for those tracks in your next Audacity session.
>
> In 2.1.1 (and earlier) in Preferences>Tracks the dropdown for Default view
> mode
> offered several options including Waveform dB.
>
> In 2.1.2 this has been reduced to just 2: Waveform and Spectrogram.
>
> So the simple answer appears to be: you can't.
>
> This would seem to be serious refgression as we know from a recent forum
> thread
> that many users like to set Waveform (dB) as their preferred default.
>
> Peter.
>
> Peter Sampson Tel: +44 (0)1625 524 780
>
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> *From:* Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...>
> *To:* "for identification, characterization, and prioritization of bugs."
> <aud...@li...>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2015 2:41 PM
> *Subject:* [Audacity-quality] How to set Waveform (dB) the default view
>
> How can the default track view be set to "Waveform (dB)" in Audacity 2.1.2?
>
> Steve
>
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