Re: [Audacity-quality] Disabling realtime effects while recording

[Vaughan J. <va...@au...>]

Sure seems like a lot of ongoing discussion here. Ready for 2.1? 
Resolvable in time?

Thanks,
V

On 12/1/2014 4:31 PM, Gale Andrews wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>  >>> If the RTP effect can stay open after rendering, the button that
> does the
>  >>> work should be named "Render" or "Apply" or some such, and there
>  >>> should be a "Close" button instead of a "Cancel" button.
>
> Leland wrote:
>  >> It originally did say Apply, but Ok and Cancel seemed to be more
> desirable.
>  >>
>  >> But, this "solves" the problem with Ladspa effects that provide
> output after
>  >> processing.  Currently they do not close to give the user a chance
> to see
>  >> what those output values are.  In those cases I will change the
> buttons as
>  >> you suggest...great idea.
>
> Steve wrote:
>  > Does that mean that all RTP effects will remain open after "applying" ?
>  > I think that would be the preferable behaviour.
> +1. I think it could be confusing for some effects to cause an interface
> change in Audacity.
>
> Gale wrote:
>>>> Can you grey out OK in the RT effect (and Settings too if that is dangerous)
>>>> if recording is in progress? Perhaps throw a message if those buttons are
>>>> activated? It seems less intrusive of workflow to me than disabling start of
>>>>recording when an RT effect is open.
>>>
>  >> I do like the idea of leaving the dialog open and disabling the OK
> button.  I personally
>  >> hate to have to constantly open and close things.[...]  But really,
> at this time, there's no >> benefit to leaving the dialog open during a
> recording since it doesn't play a role in that >> recording.
>
> I think there could be benefit, similar to the example you gave - you
> could be
> recording songs piecewise after applying a RTP effect a song at a time. And
> given I agree the RTP window should be modeless, I think we're not
> giving user
> maximum benefit of that modelessness by making them close the window
> before recording again.
>
> It's certainly not a regression to make user close the window, but I don't
> see what we are going to do any time soon that makes it more agreeable
> to leave the window open.
>
> Steve wrote:
>  > Why add new transport buttons to the effect interface, when we already
>  > have a transport toolbar that we can use?
>
> Because it's potentially much more mousework to use the buttons
> in Transport Toolbar than use buttons that might be in the effect. And
> because if you use SPACE to Stop/Start, it's too easy to apply the
> effect prematurely. By making transition between effect adjustment
> and transport fairly hard, I think we're limiting the flexibility of the
> new feature.
>
> I think any RTP buttons would have to be below Settings/Apply/Close
> or whatever they are. I've at least one VST that is tall and narrow
> and there might not be space for even Play and Stop. Transport
> buttons in the RTP effect could be another "Option".
>
> Or could there be a control or shortcut to enable transport shortcuts
> in the effect? This would be so much easier and faster IMHO.
>
> Aside: I actually thought for a long time now that effect Preview should
> be a Play button. Play the preview until you want to stop, rather than
> worry about a preference for it.
>
>
> Gale
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