Re: [Audacity-quality] Align Tracks Together (with labels)

[Peter S. <pet...@ya...>]

David wrote:
>If there are going to be shortcuts reserved for custom bindings, I don't think they should include these - they may turn out to be very useful for audacity features which >are introduced in the future, or when current features are made more keyboard accessible They are standard keystrokes which don't vary with keyboard.
 
Unless we do what Steve suggested later (see below) and have fewer
pre-defined bindings - then I'm afraid that I have to strongly disagree
with you in this David.  The reason that a user wants to set a custom
binding is because it is a function that they use an awful lot - and 
therefore they will seek convenient and easily memorable bindings.  
 
The users deserve to have a few handy standard keystrokes which don't 
vary with keyboard - and the group I suggest is a mere four in number.
 
Because we have so many pre-defined bindings in Audacity it makes
it hard for the user to discover an unassigned set of bindings to use.
It took me the best part of a morning's work to figure out that set of
four that I chose.
 
I though that Steve's idea was such an excellent one that I started work
yesterday on a Proposal in the Wiki which I plan to publish shortly.
 
 
 
In a parallel email Steve wrote:
>In the long term we probably need an easier way to set access keys and
have less options pre-defined so that users can set the ones that they
use frequently to convenient keys that they can remember without
clashing with default keys. Would it be better if the keyboard
preferences allowed users to reassign key combinations that are in use
(with a warning) rather than just saying that it is already assigned?

+1 for fewer pre-defined bindings.

The set that we use now is so huge that no one user can remember them 
all - I'm sure most of use only a smallish sub-set - so allowing the user to
define their own may lead to greater uptake and usage.



In that parallel email Steve also wrote:
> Would it be better if the keyboard preferences allowed users to reassign 
>key combinations that are in use (with a warning) rather than just saying 
>that it is already assigned?
 
You can already override existing pre-defined bindings.  All you need to
do is to clear the pre-defined binding and then that binding becomes
available for re-assignment.
 
Thanks,
Peter.

Peter Sampson
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 From: David Bailes <drb...@go...>
To: Peter Sampson <pet...@ya...>; audacity-quality <aud...@li...> 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Audacity-quality] Align Tracks Together (with labels)
  


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Peter Sampson <pet...@ya...> wrote:

Steve wrote: 
>>As an aside, perhaps we should reserve special keys that vary on non
>>uk/us keyboards for user's custom key bindings. That would save us a
>>lot of problems and provide users with some easy to find, available
>>key combinations.
> 
>+1 
> 
>Much more than an "aside" - a great idea.
> 
>A handy group of 4 that I found when searching for a group I could 
>use are:
> 
>ALT+UP,  ALT+DOWN,  ALT+RIGHT,  ALT+LEFT 

If there are going to be shortcuts reserved for custom bindings, I don't think they should include these - they may turn out to be very useful for audacity features which are introduced in the future, or when current features are made more keyboard accessible They are standard keystrokes which don't vary with keyboard. 

David.