Re: [Audacity-quality] [Audacity-devel] Edit > Labelled regions
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From: Gale A. <ga...@au...> - 2012-11-28 05:06:13
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Although I recognise Steve's committed patch (r12049) is "here now", it still causes Edit > Labeled Regions > Join over touching labels that have split lines to fail. As Steve and I agreed in the Forum, "If Labeled Regions > Split splits touching labels, I would think the intuitive thing is for Labeled Regions > Join to join touching labels so they are no longer individual clips". So unless this regression is regarded as acceptable (i.e. use Edit > Clip Boundaries > Join instead), we still have more to do, irrespective if we also need a preference. Martyn wrote: > The only argument for having it the way it was seems to be 'I > labelled one thing, and want to do something else'. :=) You can definitely see it like that, if you regard labels that touch as still being individual labels. If you regard making labels touch as making them into one label, then it was consistent the way it was. Martyn wrote: > We can always revert if a better argument / use case come up. The problem is that there are two irreconcilable sets of use cases, according to whether labels that are not separate are regarded as one label or multiple labels. Treating as multiple labels may have more use cases than treating as one label, . We thought retaining labels when deleting a selection that touched them had more use cases, then ended up having to make it a Preference. The "words and sentences" use case that worked with the previous code isn't hypothetical; I found someone who was doing it, which I probably half-recalled. Of course he has workarounds, as Steve had with the previous code. At the moment, we have a halfway-house rule "labels that exactly touch are still separate labels, but labels that overlap become one label". I understand this might be pragmatic, but it still doesn't quite make sense to me logically. If I think labels that are not separated are still single labels, then I Edit > Labeled Regions > Copy a single label which has another label overlapped into it, then paste, why would I not expect a split line at the boundary where the other label overlaps into it? I'm certainly not advocating an alternative behaviour for that - we have to decide, but I am not clear what the use case is for the "halfway house". Gale |