Re: [Audacity-devel] website update mockup & 2.0 release

[Steve t. F. <ste...@gm...>]

On 7 March 2012 20:56, Vaughan Johnson <va...@au...> wrote:
> On 3/7/2012 6:48 AM, Steve the Fiddle wrote:
>> On the new sourcecode page
>> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/source-v
>> there is no mention of libasound in the dependencies.
>
> Neither does http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/beta_source. So
> this is OT to changes for 2.0 release.
>
>
>>
>> On Debian it is possible to build Audacity without libasound, but
>> sound does not work (no audio devices).
>> For ALSA support on Debian, libasound2-dev is required.
>
> Please suggest a wording of what you'd like to see added, and where.

As you're revamping the page I thought it'd be worth mentioning now.

I've only ever built on Debian and Ubuntu so I don't know if this is
specific to Linux, or if it also applies to Mac OS X, or if it only
applies to Debian based distributions.
I'd have thought something like below.
Steve
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http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/source-v

How to Compile Audacity
Dependencies

The wxWidgets library is required. Audacity 2.0.0 requires wxGTK 2.8.12.
+ libasound is also required (for Linux / any other applicable OS).
For ALSA support on Debian based distributions, libasound2-dev is
required.

Installation of the following libraries is optional - they are
included in Audacity obtained from SVN.
---------------------------------

>
> Thanks,
> Vaughan
>
>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On 7 March 2012 11:16,  <hum...@fr...> wrote:
>>> Hi here,
>>>
>>> Just a support message, keep going on this way as I agree about the "first page" revamp which is really much better now.
>>> Thanks you for this work!
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Mail original -----
>>> De: "David Bailes" <drb...@go...>
>>> À: aud...@li...
>>> Envoyé: Mercredi 7 Mars 2012 18:41:14
>>> Objet: Re: [Audacity-devel] website update mockup & 2.0 release
>>>
>>> Hi Vaughan,
>>> this is probably a post 2.0 comment.
>>> On the download page, I think it would be better for vi users if the
>>> audacity 2.0 heading wasn't also a link to new features. For those you
>>> can't see ahead, an audacity 2.0 link immediately following a download
>>> heading, probably indicates a link to download audacity. Maybe there
>>> could be a link to new features after the download links for the
>>> different platforms.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Vaughan Johnson
>>> <va...@au...> wrote:
>>>> First off, I've posted lots of new and updated files. Again, please
>>>> review them starting from http://audacity.sourceforge.net/index-v.php
>>>> and http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/index-v.php.
>>>>
>>>> The goal here is to just find anything in these changes that would block
>>>> release of 2.0. I thought these would resolve those, but I see I just
>>>> got two emails from Gale. One is comments I'll need to go through in
>>>> detail tomorrow (bedtime for me!), the other saying a delay to March 8
>>>> is okay. I'll assume that's okay if no objections -- we do want to get
>>>> the website right. I'm sure I'll be making more changes to it tomorrow
>>>> (PST).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the comments!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/6/2012 4:01 PM, Martyn Shaw wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 06/03/2012 07:01, Vaughan Johnson wrote:
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please give a look at these:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * http://audacity.sourceforge.net/index-v.php
>>>>>>    The new brevity of verbiage, and reliance on links to other places
>>>>>> here, are intended. News item is much smaller and points elsewhere for
>>>>>> details. So now, all the important stuff is "above the fold" on
>>>>>> 1024x768. I think that's a big positive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Much neater than before!  Thanks for the work on this!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think we need the words 'especially 1.2.6 and 1.3.14' in the
>>>>> second para.
>>>>
>>>> Noted. I've actually done mostly a *lot* of removing of unnecessary
>>>> duplicate version number specifics on pages. Gale lobbied several times
>>>> to mention the replacement of 1.2.6 there, though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Everybody, please, at this point, I'm really not looking for detailed
>>>> discussions about wordings. I'm doing the task of writing these, so I
>>>> will make the decisions about wordings this time. I've heard your input.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let's get this release completed. Please give further near-term comments
>>>> only about anything that would prevent using these pages for the 2.0
>>>> release, e.g., is technically or grammatically incorrect, or redundant.
>>>>
>>>> "I ain't mad atcha", just want to move forward. :-)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The image we have is somewhat outdated and I offer the attached to
>>>>> replace it - an actual image of 2.0 running with a couple of the newer
>>>>> features in use.
>>>>
>>>> That's fine, but is not a release blocker for these web page changes.
>>>> I'll review it after 2.0 is released.
>>>>
>>>> Really, we should probably review all those screenshot images and
>>>> generate new ones, or make a gallery of the ones in the manual and refer
>>>> to those.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure how much of the site I was supposed to be reviewing and how
>>>>> much has 'known problems', so sorry if I say stuff that is known.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/features-2.0
>>>>> has the first bullet point repeated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, good catch. Fixed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> * http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/index-v.php
>>>>>>    Please look at this one primarily for layout, completeness, and
>>>>>> comprehensibility -- many of the links from it are not yet correct. I
>>>>>> need to create more files.
>>>>>
>>>>> "You can also obtain Audacity as a CD image file or purchasable CD." is
>>>>> going to disappoint people looking for 2.0.  Maybe delete it for now, or
>>>>> change the text?
>>>>
>>>> Not release blocker, will check after.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "If you wish to compile Audacity yourself, please download the source
>>>>> code." the link here is wrong, or the page is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, part of what I hadn't completed. I think it's all hooked up now,
>>>> with the continuing proviso that you won't see anything new on pages
>>>> that aren't "*-v.php".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We really really
>>>>> don't want people getting the 1.2 6 source.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I'll buy that.
>>>>
>>>> Not release blocker, will check after. I believe with today's changes,
>>>> it's only on the platform-specific 1.2.6 pages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Legacy Downloads" boxes are random sizes and, as somebody else said,
>>>>> probably shouldn't be here.
>>>>
>>>> So weird. They were well-behaved when I posted them.
>>>>
>>>> I've removed 1.3.14 from there, as 2.0 is such a complete and recent
>>>> replacement. And fixed I a missing </div> so I think the random size
>>>> issues are fixed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> More importantly, this is the "Other Downloads" page now, not something
>>>> that most people will see. They'll mostly (~70%, iirc) go directly to
>>>> the 2.0 page for their platform, based on the which_download() function
>>>> used on the home page.
>>>>
>>>> And btw, to James's comment that "Legacy Downloads" should not be on
>>>> that page -- I did not add that section, simply moved 1.2.6 and 1.3.14
>>>> to that existing section.
>>>>
>>>> So I think "Legacy Downloads", with 1.2.6 and 1.0.0 (for Mac) should
>>>> stay on that page. They're pretty much below the fold now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/beta_windows-v
>>>>> well the name says it doesn't it?  What this 'beta' thing? :-)
>>>>> Also it says 'Beta version' in the heading.  No more beta! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I shall stop, I'm sure you are aware of all of this.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, thanks. Was just in the process of gradually un-linking all those
>>>> beta pages.
>>>>
>>>> - V
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The mockups are "*-v.php" files, and I didn't link them up from all the
>>>>>> ancillary links, so if you test too far into the older stuff (which can
>>>>>> be only one link to an older page, e.g., the "nav-bar" is not updated on
>>>>>> older pages), you won't link to the new "*-v.php". Please don't report
>>>>>> on those yet -- I know they're not ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An important remaining task, for me, is to add a button to the home
>>>>>> page, for immediate download of the most popular platform-specific
>>>>>> release package, rather than link to platform-specific download page.
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be nice!
>>>>>
>>>>>> The former stuff is not set up for that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I expect and hope we'll make incremental changes to the website
>>>>>> after releasing 2.0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think none of this messes up the current website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding releasing 2.0, as we had pretty much a P1/P2 per day last
>>>>>> week, do we want to take another 48 hour test period? I think we've just
>>>>>> now passed the 48 hours since last March 3 rc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, the Ps have slowed to nothing, it appears, which is great! Given
>>>>> that we missed 29th Feb there's no particular date that stands out.  I
>>>>> willing to wait a few bits until the web site is 'ready' (that is, good
>>>>> enough, if not complete).
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>> Martyn
>>>>>
>>>>>> - V
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