Re: [Audacity-quality] Delete key does not function after deleting a label

[Bill W. <bi...@go...>]

Oh dear, we seem to have a Mac-speak versus Windows-speak divide.

I have a key labelled "delete". It is probably really a "backspace". I  
have another key labelled "delete [x>" which is a "forward delete",  
and may be what you think I meant when I wrote "delete key".

So, for all my original descriptions, substitute "backspace" for  
"delete".


On 25-Feb-11, at 2:22 AM, Gale Andrews wrote:

>
> | From Bill Wharrie <bi...@go...>
> | Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:00:54 -0500
> | Subject: [Audacity-quality] Delete key does not function after  
> deleting a label
>> On 23-Feb-11, at 1:04 PM, Gale Andrews wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> | From Bill Wharrie <bi...@go...>
>>> | Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:26:01 -0500
>>> | Subject: [Audacity-quality] Delete key does not function after
>>> deleting a label
>>>> Steps to reproduce using Audacity 1.3.13-alpha Feb 12 2011, sync- 
>>>> lock
>>>> off or on, "select all if none selected" off or on:
>>>> 1) New Project
>>>> 2) Generate tone
>>>> 3) Make a selection in the audio track
>>>> 4) Add label at selection
>>>> 5) Press delete - deletes the label: there is now a selection in  
>>>> the
>>>> audio and label tracks
>>>> 6) Press delete - nothing happens
>>>> 7) Do Edit > Delete or Edit > Cut - the selection is deleted/cut
>>>> 8) Do Edit > Undo then press delete - the selection is deleted.
>>>>
>>>> Not a big deal - probably a P4. But I thought I'd get some feedback
>>>> here before adding it to Bugzilla.
>>>>
>>>> Or is this a "safety mechanism" to prevent users from accidentally
>>>> deleting audio when they are deleting a label? If so, then it's  
>>>> not a
>>>> bug, it's a feature.
>>>
>>> Are you typing in the label? If so you would have to use HOME to  
>>> move
>>> the cursor to the start of the label before you could use DELETE.
>>>
>>> I can't repro it on Windows. I could reproduce it once on Ubuntu  
>>> after
>>> typing four characters, HOME then DELETE, but could not do so
>>> again. Is it tied in with Undo and number of characters somehow?
>>>
>>> If you are not typing in the label I definitely can't repro it.
>>>
>> After step 4 the cursor is in the label ready for text entry, so  
>> yes I
>> am typing in the label. You could also add some text to the label and
>> press enter, then click in the label at the end of the label text and
>> press delete repeatedly until the label text is gone.
>
> I can't do that on Windows or Linux. To delete text when the cursor
> is at the end of the label text requires BACKSPACE. If you can use
> DELETE to delete text to the left of the cursor I would call it a bug.
> Does Mac do that in a text editor?

I think this confirms that the key labelled "delete" is really a  
"backspace" key.

>
>
>> ... Similarly, with an audio and label track in the project, drag a
>> selection from the audio track down into the label track. The label
>> track has focus and there is a selection indicated in the audio and
>> label tracks. Pressing the delete key does nothing, whereas selecting
>> Edit > Cut or Edit > Delete removes the selection.
>
> Not on Windows or Linux.


If I use my "forward-delete" key, then the deletion on the audio and  
label tracks happens as expected.

If I undo the deletion, focus is in the audio track instead of the  
label track.

>
>
>> In general, if focus is in a label track and a label is not selected
>> for editing the delete key does nothing.
>
> I don't know why I could apparently repro it once on Linux, but it  
> sounds
> as if you should raise a Mac-only bug.  If Backspace does not work
> either, I would think it's a P3 rather than P4 because VI users will  
> be
> confused.

As above, the key is labelled "delete" but it is almost certainly  
sending a backspace.

>
> Can you click to select in a region label, then ENTER followed by  
> DELETE
> (or BACKSPACE) to delete the region in both audio track and label  
> track?
> If neither key works for that I would call it unacceptable and a Mac- 
> only
> P2 (P3 only if very disruptive to fix).

That works. But that's slightly different. The exact range of the  
region label is selected and responds to the backspace key.

-- Bill