Re: [Audacity-devel] CD ripping/burning

[Thomas H. <ho...@gm...>]

James Crook schrieb:
> Thomas Holzmann wrote:
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>> So I think I will reduce my proposal again to CD ripping ( I think CD 
>> ripping would be easier to make on all platforms and also more users 
>> would use this feature; many people just want to take one track from a 
>> CD and want to edit it)  plus some of the extra features you've mentioned.
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> Thomas,
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> As a windows user I personally don't find it a problem using a different 
> program to capture wav's from a CD.  So far the ripping proposal does 
> not look like it is adding enough value, at least to me, with the 
> features outlined so far.  I'm not suggesting burning as the way to add 
> more (though aspects of DCOP master/slave as a spin off would be cool). 
>   Rather, if there's to be some other dimension to it, it is probably in 
> the area of UI.
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As a Linux user I also never missed such a feature, but I heard from an 
(unexperienced) Windows user that he was really missing such a feature 
in Audacity. Though, I agree with you that Audacity would benefit much 
more from the de-noising proposal.
> De-noising:
> The de-noising proposal/idea looks a stronger base to start from.  It's 
> worth looking for some aspect of this that is more than a port of an 
> existing feature from elsewhere.  That's not asking for research work on 
> de-noising or such, which could be a lifetime's work, but there may be 
> some aspect you can think of that makes denoising easier to use and 
> helps people new to it to get up to speed.  Something like that would be 
> a big plus for us, as so many of our users are new to working with 
> digital sound.
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I think good denoise/declick/deckrackle functions in Audacity would be a 
killer feature in Audacity! I know many guys (including me) working with 
Audacity who have to swich to another application because of the poor 
denoise/declick/deckrackle functions of Audacity. If you really want it 
I will also think about additional usability features but atm I have not 
much ideas about that (maybe a gui for an assitant "from LP to CD" or 
so?). Though I think it would be enough for a SoC project to integrate 
denoising features well...
Some here at the mailinglist said that it would be more important to get 
declick, deckrackle working than denoise because it's really poorly 
supported. What do you think?
Anyhow, my plan is to make a library out of gwc and then integrate this 
step by step in audacity. So I could make declick and decrackle first 
and it would be easy to add denoise later (I think all three could be 
too much for a project, or am I wrong?)
The only problem is that there could be just another licensing issue 
(Gale Andrews mentioned that) but I don't think so. The license problem 
with FFTW is solved and also gwc is under GPL so there should be no 
problems.
I have written to the author of gwc to get clear answers about this but 
I didn't get a reply jet.
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> For whatever project you come up with, do think out some early spin offs 
> that benefit Audacity.  It's difficult when putting in a larger feature, 
> but the revised LV2 proposal show the kind of changes to order of doing 
> things that make it possible.
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Yes, I will. I just wanted to wait for the answer of the gwc guy.
> Have you worked with the Audacity code yet?
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Worked, not really. I already wanted to implement such a denoising 
feature for Audacity last autumn and therefore looked more detailed in 
the source code of Audacity and GWC, but due to this licensing issue 
(which should hopefully be solved now) and due to lack of time I did not 
continue the work.

Thomas