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From: Anthony A. O. <Ant...@ep...> - 2003-05-24 17:56:38
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On Fri, 23 May 2003 23:21:36 -0700, Dominic Mazzoni wrote: >> Is it possible to make the position indicator (now an arrow) into a line >> like a timeline (eg in Avid etc.) This would make it a lot easier to >> make fine cuts within files which is what I do most? > >Have you tried the beta version (1.1.3)? I think it does what you want. >> The ability to drag the position indicator across while hearing some >> kind of audio would also be great. (easier said than done, I bet) > >Yes, easier said than done. But it's a great idea, and we'll definitely >make sure it's on our wishlist. Isn't that scrubbing ? We've got the code, we've got the talent ... Tony |
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From: Alexandre P. <tec...@la...> - 2004-02-17 09:27:07
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Greetings, I've just added http://audacityteam.org/FeatureRequest.php?mode=details&id=32 Alexandre |
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From: Alexandre P. <tec...@la...> - 2004-03-19 09:02:09
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Hi everybody! I'd like to share several thoughts with you. it might be a good idea to split them into several letters, but they are quite intertwined in each other. While reading, you might think that I'm trolling or err... ogring :) Feel free to kick Shrek out of me then :) Point one: Commercial distribution. I really like Dave's and Dominic's ideas. But I would like to state that inexpensicecds is still on eBay making money. There are two ways you can "beat" them (if ever want to): by price and by functionality/additional stuff. You won't ever need my comments about price :) As for additional stuff - this is what you use ta call "add value". See, most of proprietary software comes with examples. In most cases the very first time you start a sound app, it asks you whether you would like to open a sample project and mess around :) To the best of my knowledge, Audacity is used by many non-power users, who would really appreciate such thing. I remember Dominic or Matt uploading two sample projects or at least two pair of files to be mixed. If you make a sample project of, say, 4 tracks (drums, bassline, piano and some soloing instrument) and make it easy to open it -- this will be great. Poin two: Future. I wonder, if you do, but I really have no idea what Audacity will be like in a year. I spent much time on using sound apps (for Win) about 5 years ago. At that time both Cubase and Cakewalk still were MIDI-sequencers and were not that good for audio. Samplitude was just a multitrack recorder/editor. CoolEdit was just an editor. Some time later I stopped using them all for some reasons. I never returned to them till last week. This is why I felt fine about Rosegarden and MusE being just sequencers with decent MIDI implementation and poor audio, and Ardour being just a multitrack recorder/editor. It was the way I used to think of software for musicians. I was wrong. Several days ago I installed modern versions of DAWs for Win -- Samplitude, Nuendo etc. just for my curiousity, what they look like now. You might know what I've found out: they are all DAWs now, except Adobe Audition (ex-Cooledit) and SoundForge. In all other apps MIDI and audio are tightly integrated. When I look at opensource apps, I see that there is no real DAW like e.g. Nuendo, because developers focus on either MIDI, or audio only. This is why I didn't like much the fact that Alacrity will be a standalone app, however much integrated with Audacity. I'm not saying that we should copy nuendo/cubase/logic byte-to-byte, function-to-function and pixel-to-pixel. Please remember it as you come closer to me with those baseball sticks in your hands :) And this is where I'd like to give example of Inkscape (www.inkscape.org). As an application it is out of focus here, but as a project it is worth looking at. They have ... (drumroll...) features roadmap :) And the main thing is that that really follow it. Audacity already has a mechanism to handle features requests. Could a a features roadmap be the next step? I also have some notes about current website of Audacity, but I will share them a bit later, after I sort them out better. Alexandre |
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From: Dave F. <dav...@co...> - 2004-03-19 13:00:26
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On Friday 19 March 2004 09:01 am, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > Point one: Commercial distribution. > I remember Dominic or Matt uploading two sample > projects or at least two pair of files to be mixed. If > you make a sample project of, say, 4 tracks (drums, > bassline, piano and some soloing instrument) and make > it easy to open it -- this will be great. This is a great idea, and it's something I could throw together pretty easily, but I am somewhat limited to guitar, drums, and bass. If a piano line is really needed, I could use some help there. ;) > Poin two: Future. > > I wonder, if you do, but I really have no idea what > Audacity will be like in a year. I spent much time on > using sound apps (for Win) about 5 years ago. At that > time both Cubase and Cakewalk still were > MIDI-sequencers and were not that good for audio. > Samplitude was just a multitrack recorder/editor. > CoolEdit was just an editor. Some time later I stopped > using them all for some reasons. I never returned to > them till last week. Two things about this. Taking cues from the commercial apps is good, yadayadayada. But there's a reason there's separate open source apps for audio and midi, and I don't think we can completely ignore that reason, whatever it is. Ultimately, the cues the make the important design decisions, in my opinion, should come from users and actual usage. > Several days ago I installed modern versions of DAWs > for Win -- Samplitude, Nuendo etc. just for my > curiousity, what they look like now. You might know > what I've found out: they are all DAWs now, except > Adobe Audition (ex-Cooledit) and SoundForge. In all > other apps MIDI and audio are tightly integrated. > > When I look at opensource apps, I see that there is no > real DAW like e.g. Nuendo, because developers focus on > either MIDI, or audio only. This is why I didn't like > much the fact that Alacrity will be a standalone app, > however much integrated with Audacity. This is a conceptual thing, and I don't think you're quite grokking my whole fancy vision. :) I'm thinking something more along the lines of Mozilla, in the end, the two GUIs as separate, independent projects won't really exist anymore. The thing is, Audacity is already pretty mature and stable, so experimenting with the GUI in Audacity by the nature of where the project is right now can be difficult, and it can hold up new features being implemented. But a GUI for MIDI stuff, right now, needs a fair amount of experimenting. (I have issues with both RoseGarden and MuSE) So, in my opinion, having a separate MIDI app for awhile that allows the level of experimentation you find in a younger project is a good thing, but in the end Alacrity will cease to exist as a standalone app. So, we're on the same page. Really, we are! :) Think more like Excel and Word, which aren't really separate applications anymore, they're just activex hosts embedding either the excel control or the word control, but they can embed each other's controls and use them. I wouldn't be surprised if the excel and word binaries are the same with only a few bytes difference that tell it which activex control to use. ;) > Audacity already has a mechanism to handle features > requests. Could a a features roadmap be the next step? Well, on my plate as part of my website rewrite is to take another pass at the feature request script (and to put it on my website so people can request features for the website and for the feature request script itself. Eat my own dog food, I will). I've got a guy who's interested in seeing an authentication mechanism built in. I can add priorities, user assignment of features, and so forth, so that the Feature Request script can generate a roadmap, and in the process it'll be a roadmap people can vote on. It won't be able to remain in one single file any more, but that's fine. So, if you guys want me to add more stuff to it, now's the time to speak up. :) I'm already wanting to add comments ala slashdot to it, so a user mechanism is already going to be added anyway. Dave > I also have some notes about current website of > Audacity, but I will share them a bit later, after I > sort them out better. > > Alexandre > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Audacity-devel mailing list > Aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel -- Visit my website! http://www.davefancella.com/?event=em Give thought to your reputation. Consider changing name and moving to a new town. |
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From: Markus M. <me...@me...> - 2004-03-19 14:23:21
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Alexandre,
now I finally had time to read your post and think about it.
Am Fre, den 19.03.2004 schrieb Alexandre Prokoudine um 10:01:
> Point one: Commercial distribution.
>
> I really like Dave's and Dominic's ideas. But I would
> like to state that inexpensicecds is still on eBay
> making money. There are two ways you can "beat" them
> (if ever want to): by price and by
> functionality/additional stuff.
Don't forget people mostly don't seem to know that the program itself is
free when they buy this stuff on eBay. Honestly, I don't think that
Audacity is a good candidate to make money. It is a program with a
comparably small function set (and small download size!). It is very
self explaining. If something doesn't work, people get answers on
audacity-help in matter of hours to minutes. Look, e.g. I have bought
the Premium edition of Ximian Desktop for $99. It's not so much that
they have extra apps or so, but there's a support line I can ask if
something doesn't work ("something" being one of their distributed
packages, which is pretty much every application on my system). Not that
the Gnome people would be unresponsive, but try to find something who
wants to help if the sound mixer doesn't connect to esd, because OSS
won't work with ALSA. I don't think this model will yet work for
Audacity.
That said, I could imagine that people still buy a CD to help the
project (intentionally). But these can as well donate per PayPal now.
> Poin two: Future.
I think you're on the wrong track here. See, when you take a WAVE
editor, and add multitrack functionality, you get a multitrack editor.
When you add MIDI functionality, you get a sequencer. When you add
support for plugins and professional sound/expansion cards, you get a
DAW. Etc. etc. I don't know what Dominic's etc. ideas are with Audacity,
but Audacity currently defines itself as being an easy-to-(instant-)use
audio editor with multitrack capabilities and plugin support. Of course,
with time Audacity will get more features, eventually being able to
replace ProTools or other programs (technically). But it has been said
before that if people want a DAW they should use Ardour, and when they
want a Sequencer, they should go for Rosengarden. This even may
eventually prevent useful features from being included, because they may
deviate from the original direction Audacity is ment to go. And that's a
good thing.
Side note: That's one result of Audacity being free software: Of course
we hope that many people will find Audacity useful, but we won't gain
anything (at least financially) by saying "let's expand into the
sequencer market now". We can just concentrate on what's our strength,
and even on things we have fun implementing.
Talking about "Alacrity", I'd say, let's just wait and see. At the
moment, the only thing that exists is a design document.
> Audacity already has a mechanism to handle features
> requests. Could a a features roadmap be the next step?
A feature roadmap would in principle be a good idea, but keep in mind
that people are working on implementing these features in the spare
time. I don't really know how much time I'll have for Audacity in, say,
next summer or something. Maybe I'll be bored (actually, I don't think
that will happen ever ;-) and spend hacking four continous weeks on
Audacity, maybe I'll not even have time to answer audacity-help. So a
feature roadmap would be useless here.
Markus
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From: Dominic M. <do...@au...> - 2004-03-19 22:58:46
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Markus Meyer wrote: >>Audacity already has a mechanism to handle features >>requests. Could a a features roadmap be the next step? > > A feature roadmap would in principle be a good idea, but keep in mind > that people are working on implementing these features in the spare > time. I don't really know how much time I'll have for Audacity in, say, > next summer or something. Maybe I'll be bored (actually, I don't think > that will happen ever ;-) and spend hacking four continous weeks on > Audacity, maybe I'll not even have time to answer audacity-help. So a > feature roadmap would be useless here. Hear, hear. This is a very important point. I like making users happy, but in the end I spend most of my time working on what I find interesting. It has to be fun or I can easily lose interest in working on it at all. Until someone wants to sponsor us, there can be no roadmap. - Dominic |
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From: Dave F. <dav...@co...> - 2004-03-19 14:31:09
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On Friday 19 March 2004 02:23 pm, Markus Meyer wrote: > Talking about "Alacrity", I'd say, let's just wait and see. At the > moment, the only thing that exists is a design document. :) It's not totally vapor. Just to clarify, you can get Jazz off cvs, compile it and run it, and it mostly works. Alacrity isn't starting from scratch, it starts when Jazz is finished porting to wxWindows 2.4. Just to be clear, there's already thousands of lines of code involved here, and all Alacrity is is a direction for that code to go. :) (With 4 developers so far working somewhat actively on the port to wx2.4) When I made that post, Jazz only had two developers (and I'm one of them, and you guys know how reliable my contributions are), and I was looking for more developers to finish that port and then hopefully they'd subscribe to my vision and go with it. ;) Dave -- Visit my website! http://www.davefancella.com/?event=em Churchill's Commentary on Man: Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. |
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From: Markus M. <me...@me...> - 2004-03-19 14:50:30
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Dave :-) No offense was ment. I wish you and the other devs much luck with the project. Heck, maybe I'll even contribute to it someday. It's just that I know that many things can go wrong within the process, and it is not uncommon for a project to go into a quite different direction that was initially announced... Take care Markus Am Fre, den 19.03.2004 schrieb Dave Fancella um 7:27: > On Friday 19 March 2004 02:23 pm, Markus Meyer wrote: > > Talking about "Alacrity", I'd say, let's just wait and see. At the > > moment, the only thing that exists is a design document. > > :) It's not totally vapor. Just to clarify, you can get Jazz off cvs, > compile it and run it, and it mostly works. Alacrity isn't starting from > scratch, it starts when Jazz is finished porting to wxWindows 2.4. Just to > be clear, there's already thousands of lines of code involved here, and all > Alacrity is is a direction for that code to go. :) (With 4 developers so > far working somewhat actively on the port to wx2.4) > > When I made that post, Jazz only had two developers (and I'm one of them, and > you guys know how reliable my contributions are), and I was looking for more > developers to finish that port and then hopefully they'd subscribe to my > vision and go with it. ;) > > Dave |
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From: Dave F. <dav...@co...> - 2004-03-19 14:54:24
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On Friday 19 March 2004 02:50 pm, Markus Meyer wrote: > Dave :-) > > No offense was ment. I wish you and the other devs much luck with the > project. Heck, maybe I'll even contribute to it someday. It's just that > I know that many things can go wrong within the process, and it is not > uncommon for a project to go into a quite different direction that was > initially announced... :) None taken Markus. It's my own failure if I didn't get the message across all the way, and I understand completely the deal with vapor open source apps. Sourceforge has thousands upon thousands of registered projects, and less than 10% of them are active. Frequently I talk too much and say too little. Dave > Take care > > > Markus > > Am Fre, den 19.03.2004 schrieb Dave Fancella um 7:27: > > On Friday 19 March 2004 02:23 pm, Markus Meyer wrote: > > > Talking about "Alacrity", I'd say, let's just wait and see. At the > > > moment, the only thing that exists is a design document. > > > > > :) It's not totally vapor. Just to clarify, you can get Jazz off cvs, > > > > compile it and run it, and it mostly works. Alacrity isn't starting from > > scratch, it starts when Jazz is finished porting to wxWindows 2.4. Just > > to be clear, there's already thousands of lines of code involved here, > > and all Alacrity is is a direction for that code to go. :) (With 4 > > developers so far working somewhat actively on the port to wx2.4) > > > > When I made that post, Jazz only had two developers (and I'm one of them, > > and you guys know how reliable my contributions are), and I was looking > > for more developers to finish that port and then hopefully they'd > > subscribe to my vision and go with it. ;) > > > > Dave > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Audacity-devel mailing list > Aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel -- Visit my website! http://www.davefancella.com/?event=em "Here's something to think about: How come you never see a headline like `Psychic Wins Lottery.'" -- Comedian Jay Leno |
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From: <smu...@ob...> - 2004-09-24 23:08:12
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Hey all, I was looking for something totally unrelated to Audacity, and was surpri= sed to run across this on-line article in an Oregon computer magazine: http://www.computerbits.com/archive/2004/0900/soundart.html There is apparently a hard available (Josh?), but you can get the pdf her= e: http://www.computerbits.com/PDF/September2004.pdf Stm... |
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From: William P. <dub...@ya...> - 2004-12-09 01:52:23
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Hi gang, My name is Bill Preder, and I'm here to join your band of merry geeks inasmuch as you'll have me and time permits. :-) I am primarily a Mac developer, a "generalist" but with a soft spot for audio. I've spent the past five years as a developer of little audio- and MIDI-processing utilities for a company that creates audio and music content for electronic toys. Most of my GUI experience is with Metrowerks PowerPlant (which I recently got working in XCode(!)) and the Carbon API. (I've also done a bit of MFC coding.) I have a fair amount of recent experience with portaudio, portmidi, libsndfile, STK and others. I also recently got audio working (to some degree) on a Linux PPC system (Ubuntu)!! Anyhow, I'd love to help out however I may. Perhaps on the Apple HI Guidelines aspect and little bits of audio stuff here and there. I say all this having a very "full plate" as it is and knowing this might be a bit more than I can chew, but... I need a challenge. Anyway, pleased to meet ya. I did get wxMac and Audacity both to compile under the command line. FYI I used wx v. 2.5.3. I could not compile 2.4.x using gcc 3.3. Honestly, for me, my fresh compile of Audacity seems much better behaved than the latest OS X binary (1.2.3), which seemed to keep losing keyboard input. Oh yeah, my main machine is a 550 MHz Titanium G4 PowerBook running OS 10.3.5 (and Ubuntu "Warty"). :-) Cheers, Bill Preder __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail |
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From: Dominic M. <do...@au...> - 2004-12-09 08:57:15
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Hi Bill, Great to meet you! Though there are some other Mac users on the list, 99% of the time I'm the only Mac developer, so I'd be really happy to have someone else around to help with the Mac-specific issues. I'm glad that wx 2.5.3 is working for you...I had some problems with 2.5.2 and haven't explored 2.5.3 much. Last time I checked, the latest CVS version of Audacity is slightly less polished than the 1.2.3 release on the Mac, because I hand-tweaked several things for the 1.2 branch and didn't get around to porting all of those back to the CVS HEAD. If you are interested, it would be great if you wanted to tackle some of those issues. For the most part, you should just be able to copy some code from the 1.2 branch (CVS tag AUDACITY_1_2), but in a few cases, there might be a nice way to rewrite the code to make it cleaner for wx 2.5.x (for example, the way the Preferences item in the menu is handled). Off the top of my head, it's just a few menu items and toolbar backgrounds / positioning that are not quite right on the Mac. Another thing you could look at is support for Audio Units. I recently checked in that code (but not in Audacity 1.2.3) and it works perfectly for many plug-ins, but there are some that don't work right, and I haven't investigated which error messages are occurring... - Dominic On Dec 8, 2004, at 5:52 PM, William Preder wrote: > Hi gang, > > My name is Bill Preder, and I'm here to join your band of merry geeks > inasmuch > as you'll have me and time permits. :-) > > I am primarily a Mac developer, a "generalist" but with a soft spot > for audio. > I've spent the past five years as a developer of little audio- and > MIDI-processing utilities for a company that creates audio and music > content > for electronic toys. Most of my GUI experience is with Metrowerks > PowerPlant > (which I recently got working in XCode(!)) and the Carbon API. (I've > also done > a bit of MFC coding.) I have a fair amount of recent experience with > portaudio, portmidi, libsndfile, STK and others. I also recently got > audio > working (to some degree) on a Linux PPC system (Ubuntu)!! > > Anyhow, I'd love to help out however I may. Perhaps on the Apple HI > Guidelines > aspect and little bits of audio stuff here and there. I say all this > having a > very "full plate" as it is and knowing this might be a bit more than I > can > chew, but... I need a challenge. Anyway, pleased to meet ya. > > I did get wxMac and Audacity both to compile under the command line. > FYI I > used wx v. 2.5.3. I could not compile 2.4.x using gcc 3.3. Honestly, > for me, > my fresh compile of Audacity seems much better behaved than the latest > OS X > binary (1.2.3), which seemed to keep losing keyboard input. > > Oh yeah, my main machine is a 550 MHz Titanium G4 PowerBook running OS > 10.3.5 > (and Ubuntu "Warty"). :-) > > Cheers, > Bill Preder > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real > users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Audacity-devel mailing list > Aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel |
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From: William P. <dub...@ya...> - 2004-12-10 07:57:28
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Awesome! I'll start poking around. Please bear with me and any stupid questions I might ask as I'm getting my feet wet. :-) - Bill --- Dominic Mazzoni <do...@au...> wrote: > Hi Bill, > > Great to meet you! Though there are some other Mac users on the list, > 99% of the time I'm the only Mac developer, so I'd be really happy to > have someone else around to help with the Mac-specific issues. > > I'm glad that wx 2.5.3 is working for you...I had some problems with > 2.5.2 and haven't explored 2.5.3 much. > > Last time I checked, the latest CVS version of Audacity is slightly > less polished than the 1.2.3 release on the Mac, because I hand-tweaked > several things for the 1.2 branch and didn't get around to porting all > of those back to the CVS HEAD. If you are interested, it would be > great if you wanted to tackle some of those issues. For the most part, > you should just be able to copy some code from the 1.2 branch (CVS tag > AUDACITY_1_2), but in a few cases, there might be a nice way to rewrite > the code to make it cleaner for wx 2.5.x (for example, the way the > Preferences item in the menu is handled). Off the top of my head, it's > just a few menu items and toolbar backgrounds / positioning that are > not quite right on the Mac. > > Another thing you could look at is support for Audio Units. I recently > checked in that code (but not in Audacity 1.2.3) and it works perfectly > for many plug-ins, but there are some that don't work right, and I > haven't investigated which error messages are occurring... > > - Dominic > > On Dec 8, 2004, at 5:52 PM, William Preder wrote: > > Hi gang, > > > > My name is Bill Preder, and I'm here to join your band of merry geeks > > inasmuch > > as you'll have me and time permits. :-) > > > > I am primarily a Mac developer, a "generalist" but with a soft spot > > for audio. > > I've spent the past five years as a developer of little audio- and > > MIDI-processing utilities for a company that creates audio and music > > content > > for electronic toys. Most of my GUI experience is with Metrowerks > > PowerPlant > > (which I recently got working in XCode(!)) and the Carbon API. (I've > > also done > > a bit of MFC coding.) I have a fair amount of recent experience with > > portaudio, portmidi, libsndfile, STK and others. I also recently got > > audio > > working (to some degree) on a Linux PPC system (Ubuntu)!! > > > > Anyhow, I'd love to help out however I may. Perhaps on the Apple HI > > Guidelines > > aspect and little bits of audio stuff here and there. I say all this > > having a > > very "full plate" as it is and knowing this might be a bit more than I > > can > > chew, but... I need a challenge. Anyway, pleased to meet ya. > > > > I did get wxMac and Audacity both to compile under the command line. > > FYI I > > used wx v. 2.5.3. I could not compile 2.4.x using gcc 3.3. Honestly, > > for me, > > my fresh compile of Audacity seems much better behaved than the latest > > OS X > > binary (1.2.3), which seemed to keep losing keyboard input. > > > > Oh yeah, my main machine is a 550 MHz Titanium G4 PowerBook running OS > > 10.3.5 > > (and Ubuntu "Warty"). :-) > > > > Cheers, > > Bill Preder > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real > > users. > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Audacity-devel mailing list > > Aud...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Audacity-devel mailing list > Aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 |
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From: Dominic M. <do...@au...> - 2004-12-10 09:32:03
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On Dec 9, 2004, at 11:57 PM, William Preder wrote: > Awesome! I'll start poking around. Please bear with me and any stupid > questions I might ask as I'm getting my feet wet. :-) Absolutely. You already built the code, that's farther than many people get! :) - Dominic > - Bill > > --- Dominic Mazzoni <do...@au...> wrote: > >> Hi Bill, >> >> Great to meet you! Though there are some other Mac users on the list, >> 99% of the time I'm the only Mac developer, so I'd be really happy to >> have someone else around to help with the Mac-specific issues. >> >> I'm glad that wx 2.5.3 is working for you...I had some problems with >> 2.5.2 and haven't explored 2.5.3 much. >> >> Last time I checked, the latest CVS version of Audacity is slightly >> less polished than the 1.2.3 release on the Mac, because I >> hand-tweaked >> several things for the 1.2 branch and didn't get around to porting all >> of those back to the CVS HEAD. If you are interested, it would be >> great if you wanted to tackle some of those issues. For the most >> part, >> you should just be able to copy some code from the 1.2 branch (CVS tag >> AUDACITY_1_2), but in a few cases, there might be a nice way to >> rewrite >> the code to make it cleaner for wx 2.5.x (for example, the way the >> Preferences item in the menu is handled). Off the top of my head, >> it's >> just a few menu items and toolbar backgrounds / positioning that are >> not quite right on the Mac. >> >> Another thing you could look at is support for Audio Units. I >> recently >> checked in that code (but not in Audacity 1.2.3) and it works >> perfectly >> for many plug-ins, but there are some that don't work right, and I >> haven't investigated which error messages are occurring... >> >> - Dominic >> >> On Dec 8, 2004, at 5:52 PM, William Preder wrote: >>> Hi gang, >>> >>> My name is Bill Preder, and I'm here to join your band of merry geeks >>> inasmuch >>> as you'll have me and time permits. :-) >>> >>> I am primarily a Mac developer, a "generalist" but with a soft spot >>> for audio. >>> I've spent the past five years as a developer of little audio- and >>> MIDI-processing utilities for a company that creates audio and music >>> content >>> for electronic toys. Most of my GUI experience is with Metrowerks >>> PowerPlant >>> (which I recently got working in XCode(!)) and the Carbon API. (I've >>> also done >>> a bit of MFC coding.) I have a fair amount of recent experience with >>> portaudio, portmidi, libsndfile, STK and others. I also recently got >>> audio >>> working (to some degree) on a Linux PPC system (Ubuntu)!! >>> >>> Anyhow, I'd love to help out however I may. Perhaps on the Apple HI >>> Guidelines >>> aspect and little bits of audio stuff here and there. I say all this >>> having a >>> very "full plate" as it is and knowing this might be a bit more than >>> I >>> can >>> chew, but... I need a challenge. Anyway, pleased to meet ya. >>> >>> I did get wxMac and Audacity both to compile under the command line. >>> FYI I >>> used wx v. 2.5.3. I could not compile 2.4.x using gcc 3.3. >>> Honestly, >>> for me, >>> my fresh compile of Audacity seems much better behaved than the >>> latest >>> OS X >>> binary (1.2.3), which seemed to keep losing keyboard input. >>> >>> Oh yeah, my main machine is a 550 MHz Titanium G4 PowerBook running >>> OS >>> 10.3.5 >>> (and Ubuntu "Warty"). :-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Bill Preder >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________ >>> Do you Yahoo!? >>> Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. >>> http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >>> Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real >>> users. >>> Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. >>> http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Audacity-devel mailing list >>> Aud...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >> Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real >> users. >> Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. >> http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Audacity-devel mailing list >> Aud...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel >> > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real > users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Audacity-devel mailing list > Aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel |
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From: Bill P. <dub...@ya...> - 2004-12-10 18:48:11
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--- Dominic Mazzoni <do...@au...> wrote: > You already built the code, that's farther than many > people get! :) Well, I was initially discouraged when I couldn't get wx 2.4.x to compile. Were you using gcc 2.95 (on *nix variants) for that? That was the reason I even bothered trying 2.5.3, which to my compiled delight under my gcc 3.3 install. OK then, stupid question #1: once I got wx installed, the first trouble I had compiling Audacity was that the wx install directory (/usr/local/bin) wasn't added to my $PATH... so, on a Mac/BSD system (running bash), how do I set an environment variable (e.g. appending to $PATH) so that it takes effect permanently, system-wide? Simply using "export" within a shell seems to only apply it to that shell's process; changes don't affect other shells and are lost upon re-login. (Don't worry, I "get it", I may just need some occasional unix & CVS pointers) Thanks, Bill __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo |
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From: Dave F. <dav...@da...> - 2004-12-10 18:52:36
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On Friday 10 December 2004 12:48 pm, Bill Preder wrote: > OK then, stupid question #1: once I got wx installed, the first trouble I > had compiling Audacity was that the wx install directory (/usr/local/bin) > wasn't added to my $PATH... so, on a Mac/BSD system (running bash), how do > I set an environment variable (e.g. appending to $PATH) so that it takes > effect permanently, system-wide? Simply using "export" within a shell > seems to only apply it to that shell's process; changes don't affect other > shells and are lost upon re-login. Under Linux you have a file in /etc, I think it's called bashrc or something like that. Since it's bash, I would tend to think it'd be the same on a bsd system, but I could be wrong. Dave > (Don't worry, I "get it", I may just need some occasional unix & CVS > pointers) > > Thanks, > Bill > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Audacity-devel mailing list > Aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel -- Visit my website! http://www.davefancella.com/?event=em Marriage is a lot like the army, everyone complains, but you'd be surprised at the large number that re-enlist. -- James Garner |
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From: Bill P. <dub...@ya...> - 2004-12-10 18:55:39
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er, I meant "compiled to my delight..." :-P - Bill > ... which to my compiled delight under my gcc 3.3 > install. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com |
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From: Markus M. <me...@me...> - 2004-12-10 19:17:15
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Am Fre, den 10.12.2004 schrieb Bill Preder um 19:48: > OK then, stupid question #1: once I got wx installed, the first trouble I had > compiling Audacity was that the wx install directory (/usr/local/bin) wasn't > added to my $PATH... so, on a Mac/BSD system (running bash), how do I set an > environment variable (e.g. appending to $PATH) so that it takes effect > permanently, system-wide? Simply using "export" within a shell seems to only > apply it to that shell's process; changes don't affect other shells and are > lost upon re-login. Depending on the shell you use, could change your .bashrc, .cshrc or how it's called in your system. That file is normally in your home directory (it is a hidden file, but you can enter the name and it will appear nevertheless), otherwise just create it inside your home directory. You can, e.g. add the following to your .bashrc: export PATH=/usr/local/whatever/you/like:$PATH This adds the path "/usr/local/whatever/you/like" to your $PATH in every shell. Markus |
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From: Dave F. <dav...@da...> - 2004-12-11 00:35:16
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On Friday 10 December 2004 01:14 pm, Markus Meyer wrote: > export PATH=/usr/local/whatever/you/like:$PATH > > This adds the path "/usr/local/whatever/you/like" to your $PATH in every > shell. [dave@davefancella dave]$ ls /usr/local/whatever/you/like ls: /usr/local/whatever/you/like: No such file or directory [dave@davefancella dave]$ man /usr/local/whatever/you/like /usr/local/whatever/you/like: No such file or directory No manual entry for /usr/local/whatever/you/like [dave@davefancella dave]$ man woman No manual entry for woman [dave@davefancella dave]$ whatis usage: whatis keyword ... [dave@davefancella dave]$ whatis /usr/local/whatever/you/like /usr/local/whatever/you/like: nothing appropriate (sorry for the bad geek joke) Dave > > Markus > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Audacity-devel mailing list > Aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel -- Visit my website! http://www.davefancella.com/?event=em Literature is mostly about having sex and not much about having children. Life is the other way around. -- David Lodge, "The British Museum is Falling Down" |
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From: Matt B. <mbr...@cs...> - 2004-12-10 19:56:29
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Bill Preder wrote: > OK then, stupid question #1: once I got wx installed, the first > trouble I had compiling Audacity was that the wx install directory > (/usr/local/bin) wasn't added to my $PATH... so, on a Mac/BSD system > (running bash), how do I set an environment variable (e.g. appending > to $PATH) so that it takes effect permanently, system-wide? You can add the following line to /etc/profile (or $HOME/.bash_profile): export PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH |
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From: Bill P. <dub...@ya...> - 2004-12-10 21:00:43
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Got it! Thanks to all. - Bill __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com |
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From: Rodolfo B. <xb...@is...> - 2005-02-10 14:12:39
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People of Audacity: I was reading the maillist, and found that no multiple sound card recording is planned. The reason was lack of sinncronization between sound cards. But for me, is impossible to get any multi-input sound card, and maybe for someboy else. Just an idea: Why not to detect if the user uses two or more sound cards, and for example each 2 seconds , count the samples, and if they are less as samplerate, add in regular chunks interpolated samples, or if they are more, delete samples and a bit of smoothig? Is this crazy? Since I think that this is a must have for some people, i think we need at least such an option, the posibility to choose a different sound card per track. Many thanks! |
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