#535 clarifying values of title@level

GREEN
closed-fixed
Lou Burnard
1(low)
2013-11-09
2013-03-12
Kevin Hawkins
No

title@level is an optional attribute. It allows only five values:

a
(analytic) analytic title (article, poem, or other item published as part of a larger item)
m
(monographic) monographic title (book, collection, or other item published as a distinct item, including single volumes of multi-volume works)
j
(journal) journal title
s
(series) series title
u
(unpublished) title of unpublished material (including theses and dissertations unless published by a commercial press)

We should clarify:

1. whether "j" is meant for titles of popular magazines in addition to titles of scholarly journals.

2. what value should be used for the title of a newspaper.

3. what value to use for the title of a series of conference proceedings. (While this is much like a journal, I think "s" is meant only for titles of monographic series.)

Discussion

  • Martin Holmes
    Martin Holmes
    2013-03-12

    I've always assumed that "j" is used for any kind of periodical, including journals, newspapers, etc. Certainly no other value fits those categories. Perhaps the definition should be expanded to include the word "periodical", and the desc should mention newspapers and magazines explicitly. This example in the Guidelines is presumably relevant:

    <bibl type="article" subtype="magazine_article" xml:id="beaupaire_1911">
    <author>
    <name>
    <surname>Beaupaire</surname>
    (<forename>Edmond</forename>)</name>
    </author>,
    <title level="a">A propos de la rue de la Femme-sans-Tête</title>,
    <bibl type="monogr">
    <title level="j">La Cité</title>,
    <date when="1911-01">janvier 1911</date>, pp. <biblScope unit="pp" from="5" to="17">5-17</biblScope>.
    </bibl>
    </bibl>

     
  • Lou Burnard
    Lou Burnard
    2013-03-13

    I agree with Martin. "j" is any kind of periodical. "s" is any kind of monographic series which has its own title, but is not regarded as a periodical (even though strictly speaking it appears periodically!). There are inevitably border line cases (conference proceedings perhaps being one) but the distinction is not one that seems to worry most people.

    This doesnt look like a bug to me.

     
    Last edit: Lou Burnard 2013-03-13
  • Lou Burnard
    Lou Burnard
    2013-03-31

    • milestone: --> GREEN
     
  • Lou Burnard
    Lou Burnard
    2013-03-31

    Proposal is to add a word or two to the description to make clear that "j" includes any kind of periodical and close the ticket.

     
  • Kevin Hawkins
    Kevin Hawkins
    2013-04-08

    Sorry, somehow I wasn't subscribed to updates on this ticket.

    Adding a word or two to the description of "j" to say it's meant for any serial publication is fine with me. We're just going to have carefully explain the difference between a "serial" (which takes "j") and a "series" (which takes "s"). Perhaps the definition of "series" should be changed to "monographic series". We're in tricky territory here. While we could draw on definitions from library cataloging, I'd like to keep the definitions accessible to a lay audience.

     
  • Lou Burnard
    Lou Burnard
    2013-04-29

    • status: open --> pending-accepted
     
  • Lou Burnard
    Lou Burnard
    2013-04-29

    I've had a crack at improving all the descriptions to make them both a bit more consistent and a bit more accessible to the lay reader. Leaving this ticket open till you've had a chance to review my changes.

     
  • James Cummings
    James Cummings
    2013-11-09

    • status: pending-accepted --> closed-fixed
    • assigned_to: Lou Burnard
    • Priority: 5 --> 1(low)
     
  • James Cummings
    James Cummings
    2013-11-09

    These descriptions have been live in two releases so must assume they are accepted; marking as closed and lou as having done them.