Re: [Swazoo-devel] SiteRegistry renamed, SUnit tests
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From: Janko M. <jan...@er...> - 2000-09-27 21:43:06
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Hi, Benny & Wendy Sadeh wrote: > > Janko, > I can hardly contribute anything lately to the effort, but still, here are my 2 p... > > Joseph has outlined his reservations very eloquently, and I agree with them all very strongly. My motivation to do rename was bad experiences with putting WikiWorks in action. Me and Peter van Rooijen tried to test WikiWorks and to study it for possible integration with Swazoo. But, how to start this thing? Ok, let we explore Wiki class first. Nothing. Where the heck are some examples? After looking around all classes we discovered examples in NetworkServer. This is IMHO completely inappropriate place for examples. Therefore I decided to care a lot in Swazoo to be as easy as possible to use. Just load the parcel and call one obvious method and your server is running! I think that we must care a lot of usability issues here if we like Swazoo to become a standard, well known server for a whole Smalltalk community. That's also a reason that I propose to put SUnit test in a separate parcel. For SUnit tests you need the SUnit parcels and it is quite difficult to find it from first place. I had this experience when I had a Swazoo-Aida presentation at Gemstone. I had a Swazoo parcel with me, but not SUnit. Thanks to Joe help providing me a SUnit I was able to make a presentation. Therefore, Its better to have only one Swazoo parcel, which can work without any more prerequisites from plain VW image. If you like, you can load tests parcel anytime later. Maybe we can tweak parcel loading to test if SUnit is presented and load test parcel automatically then. > regarding renaming SiteRegistry to Swazoo. > you can still achieve your goal by using the Facade pattern. basically having the Swazoo class "fronting" for SiteRegistry and others. > since you know GemStone, look at the class System as an example of using Facade. Ok, let we do this way: Swazoo sites <SiteRegistry> servers <OrderedCollection> SiteRegistry sites SiteRegistry will be responsible for site registration, finding by hostname, configuring from sites.cfg etc. Swazoo responsibilities will be start/stop of sites, autostart after image startup and finding/starting the right HTTPServers for each Site. All site specific behavior will be delegated through Swazoo to SiteRegistry. Is that ok? > regards, and see you @ oopsla, > Benny > > > Hi, > > > > Here is a copy of my conversation with Joe. Comments please > > :) > > > > Joseph Bacanskas wrote: > > > > Off the top of my head, I think that a class' name should > > describe > > what it is/does. The name SiteRegistry, describes what the > > class is/does as it interacts with the rest of Swazoo. It > > seems that naming the Class Swazoo points new users to a > > possible starting place when exploring the application. > > > > I think that the tests served several functions; one of > > which was to document how the system works. The tests show > > how each function needed for the app are > > performed. Without them, it's a lot harder to understand > > how all of the pieces work together, and impossible to know > > when a developer is finished. > > > > I know I'm really pounding on the idea of SUnit tests, but > > they have several functions which are now no longer being > > performed. We want the application to be > > more robust and more understandable every time we change > > the code. We want the tests to document how the system is > > used. We want the tests to show people who are trying to > > port Swazoo to other Smalltalks that when their port passes > > the tests, they are done. > > > > BTW - I'm getting on a plane to GemStone soon, and won't see > > this > > account until Friday. > > Please reply to jo...@ge.... > > > > Also, should we move this to the mailing list so that others > > can > > participate? > > > > Thanks again for working so hard on this project; I truely > > appreciate you efforts. You are > > moving things forward at a great pace! -- Janko Mivsek Systems Architect EraNova d.o.o. Pod hribom 55 SI-1000 Ljubljana Slovenia phone: +386 1 5816 232 fax: +386 1 5816 231 jan...@er... www.eranova.si |