Re: [Scid-users] Usablity issues

[Gerd L. <ger...@on...>]

	Hi,

I have created the following "default configuration:

On the left there is the chessboard.
On the right there is
* A database switcher with three databases: "My games", "My analysis",
"Reference database" loaded by startup through a shortcut
* Game notation window
* Game tree of the reference database
* Analysis engine
* Database listing window with deleted mark as first item.

Now the user can replay his game in "My games", see what strong players play
in the same position through the game tree window, see what the engine would
like and manage database content. I needed some time to figure out this
setup and will tell the kids not to touch it. So the interesting question
is: How can this setup made easier for a user, who have not used chess
databases for twenty years. An answer may be (if there is nothing better) to
offer an wizard at the first startup which queries the needs of the user and
setting up more complex environments.

	Gerd



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Gerd Lorscheid [mailto:ger...@on...] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Juni 2010 23:07
An: 'Alexander Wagner'
Cc: 'sci...@li...'
Betreff: AW: [Scid-users] Usablity issues

	Hello Alexander,

you are right, but this is not my point. My point is there is no consistent
way, a typical new user (one which does not read manuals) can find out how
to perform elementary tasks.
- If you right click on a move there should be an option "Add comment",
which maybe just opens the comment window.
- The "Game" menu should have an option "Mark as deleted"
- The deleted flag should be per default the first one in the database game
listing. As alternative deleted entries could be grayed out. 
- If a user right clicks on a deleted game he gets the option to compact the
data
The idea is simple. Imagine there is a new user looking for an alternative
to Chessbase. What will he try first: Create a database, create a new game
with variations and comments, remove it ... These tasks should be intuitive
without reading the manual.

	Gerd


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Alexander Wagner [mailto:a.w...@ph...] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Juni 2010 22:46
An: Gerd Lorscheid
Cc: sci...@li...
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Usablity issues

Gerd Lorscheid wrote:

Hi!

> I finished too early. After finding out that there is a comment window 
> which I have to open e.g. from the menu bar, I want to remove a game and 
> searching the game list in the menu bar. But there is nothing, but 
> surprisingly there right mouse click option in the games window. It 
> creates a D entry wide on the right side of the table. So first I did 
> not see it as I have only a 1920 monitor. No I have to search how to 
> compact the database….

This is working as designed. It does absolutely not make any sense to 
compact a database all the time.

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