From: Darryn Capes-D. <dca...@cm...> - 2003-02-06 23:17:16
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Peter, I have been through the problems and can tell you what is going on. The mai= n difference of Machine B (Server 1) and Machine D (Server 2) is that from what I see Machine B has Service Pack 3 installed and Machine D does not. You see in Service Pack 3 there was a change made to TS Licencing in that Microsoft introduced a licence recovery mechanism. To cut to the point (I don't know the details) rdesktop 1.2 with SAVE_LICENCE defined works fine. In the new lic method the terminal server expects a valid licence to be presented to renew it. Otherwise it just expires it - and a day later you will see it actually gone (it does housekeeping once a day)! So if SAVE_LICENCE code is not enabled then it just expires and you can't use the licence until it cleans it away - and this is where a little gotcha is - if you move from using an rdesktop without SAVE_LICENCE to one with SAVE_LICENCE then it still won't recover an 'expired' licence. You have to wait for the daily housekeeping to clean it up - this really had me going for half a day or so! This is exactly what happened to you. The Server pre Spk 3 has the old model where licences never expire. To recover a licence that you never wanted to use again you have to call the Microsoft Clearing House. That's why they introduced the new method. And if you upgrade a Pre Spk3 server to Spk3 then the licences granted still stay with the old method - only new licences granted will use the new expiry method. Hope this helps clear things up. I am happily using a Spk3 Server and my licences are updating nicely. Regards Darryn -----Original Message----- From: Peter =C5strand [mailto:pe...@ce...]=20 Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2003 7:42 PM To: rde...@li... Cc: rde...@li... Subject: [rdesktop-devel] License troubles What's the status of the license code in rdesktop 1.2? We have some=20 problems: We are running rdesktop 1.2 on machine A and connects to a Windows 2000 Server (machine B). The W2K machine has 5 real licenses installed ("Windows 2000 Terminal Services Client Access License", "Open" type). This can be verifier by using "Terminal Services Licensing". The problem is that all issued licenses have an expire-date. The expire date for the license issued to A was reached today, and no more connections could be made until we changed the client name (by using -n). We also have another similiar systems, with Linux machine C and W2K server D. This server has 200 licenses installed of the type "Select". On this=20 server, the issued licenses seems to be permanent: The expire date is set to "-", and we have no problem with this system.=20 The question of course is why the first system issues license with expiration date, while the second system issues permanent licenses. Both A and C runs rdesktop 1.2, but A earlier ran 1.1-something. Could=20 this be the problem? Or is it because of the Open/Select license type=20 difference? --=20 Peter =C5strand Telephone: +46-13-21 46 00 Cendio Systems E-mail: pe...@ce... Teknikringen 3 583 30 Link=F6ping ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com _______________________________________________ rdesktop-devel mailing list rde...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rdesktop-devel |
From: Darryn Capes-D. <dca...@cm...> - 2003-03-06 00:00:02
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You need to compile rdesktop with SAVE_LICENCE defined. -----Original Message----- From: Richard J. Mancusi [mailto:vr...@bo...] Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2003 9:03 AM To: Darryn Capes-Davis Cc: 'Peter =C5strand'; rde...@li...; rde...@li... Subject: Re: [rdesktop-devel] License troubles I believe my problem is similar, and I am just missing the answer. W2K Server with SP3 Purchased and installed MS TSCAL 5 license - I am MS Legal !! Had been using rdestop 1.1.0 - but when I logon W2K shows a termination dat= e Just installed rdesktop 1.2.0 How do I envoke SAVE_LICENCE Or is this a MS problem that I need to take up with them? Thanks in advance Rich Darryn Capes-Davis wrote: > Peter, >=20 > I have been through the problems and can tell you what is going on. The main > difference of Machine B (Server 1) and Machine D (Server 2) is that from > what I see Machine B has Service Pack 3 installed and Machine D does not. > You see in Service Pack 3 there was a change made to TS Licencing in that > Microsoft introduced a licence recovery mechanism. To cut to the point (I > don't know the details) rdesktop 1.2 with SAVE_LICENCE defined works fine= =2E > In the new lic method the terminal server expects a valid licence to be > presented to renew it. Otherwise it just expires it - and a day later you > will see it actually gone (it does housekeeping once a day)! So if > SAVE_LICENCE code is not enabled then it just expires and you can't use the > licence until it cleans it away - and this is where a little gotcha is - if > you move from using an rdesktop without SAVE_LICENCE to one with > SAVE_LICENCE then it still won't recover an 'expired' licence. You have t= o > wait for the daily housekeeping to clean it up - this really had me going > for half a day or so! This is exactly what happened to you. >=20 > The Server pre Spk 3 has the old model where licences never expire. To > recover a licence that you never wanted to use again you have to call the > Microsoft Clearing House. That's why they introduced the new method. And if > you upgrade a Pre Spk3 server to Spk3 then the licences granted still sta= y > with the old method - only new licences granted will use the new expiry > method. >=20 > Hope this helps clear things up. I am happily using a Spk3 Server and my > licences are updating nicely. >=20 > Regards >=20 > Darryn >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter =C5strand [mailto:pe...@ce...]=20 > Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2003 7:42 PM > To: rde...@li... > Cc: rde...@li... > Subject: [rdesktop-devel] License troubles >=20 >=20 >=20 > What's the status of the license code in rdesktop 1.2? We have some=20 > problems: >=20 > We are running rdesktop 1.2 on machine A and connects to a Windows 2000 > Server (machine B). The W2K machine has 5 real licenses installed ("Windows > 2000 Terminal Services Client Access License", "Open" type). This can be > verifier by using "Terminal Services Licensing". The problem is that all > issued licenses have an expire-date. The expire date for the license issued > to A was reached today, and no more connections could be made until we > changed the client name (by using -n). >=20 > We also have another similiar systems, with Linux machine C and W2K serve= r > D. This server has 200 licenses installed of the type "Select". On this > server, the issued licenses seems to be permanent: The expire date is set= =20 > to "-", and we have no problem with this system.=20 >=20 > The question of course is why the first system issues license with > expiration date, while the second system issues permanent licenses. >=20 > Both A and C runs rdesktop 1.2, but A earlier ran 1.1-something. Could > this be the problem? Or is it because of the Open/Select license type=20 > difference? >=20 >=20 |
From: Richard J. M. <vr...@bo...> - 2003-03-05 22:02:57
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I believe my problem is similar, and I am just missing the answer. W2K Server with SP3 Purchased and installed MS TSCAL 5 license - I am MS Legal !! Had been using rdestop 1.1.0 - but when I logon W2K shows a termination date Just installed rdesktop 1.2.0 How do I envoke SAVE_LICENCE Or is this a MS problem that I need to take up with them? Thanks in advance Rich Darryn Capes-Davis wrote: > Peter, > > I have been through the problems and can tell you what is going on. The main > difference of Machine B (Server 1) and Machine D (Server 2) is that from > what I see Machine B has Service Pack 3 installed and Machine D does not. > You see in Service Pack 3 there was a change made to TS Licencing in that > Microsoft introduced a licence recovery mechanism. To cut to the point (I > don't know the details) rdesktop 1.2 with SAVE_LICENCE defined works fine. > In the new lic method the terminal server expects a valid licence to be > presented to renew it. Otherwise it just expires it - and a day later you > will see it actually gone (it does housekeeping once a day)! So if > SAVE_LICENCE code is not enabled then it just expires and you can't use the > licence until it cleans it away - and this is where a little gotcha is - if > you move from using an rdesktop without SAVE_LICENCE to one with > SAVE_LICENCE then it still won't recover an 'expired' licence. You have to > wait for the daily housekeeping to clean it up - this really had me going > for half a day or so! This is exactly what happened to you. > > The Server pre Spk 3 has the old model where licences never expire. To > recover a licence that you never wanted to use again you have to call the > Microsoft Clearing House. That's why they introduced the new method. And if > you upgrade a Pre Spk3 server to Spk3 then the licences granted still stay > with the old method - only new licences granted will use the new expiry > method. > > Hope this helps clear things up. I am happily using a Spk3 Server and my > licences are updating nicely. > > Regards > > Darryn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Åstrand [mailto:pe...@ce...] > Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2003 7:42 PM > To: rde...@li... > Cc: rde...@li... > Subject: [rdesktop-devel] License troubles > > > > What's the status of the license code in rdesktop 1.2? We have some > problems: > > We are running rdesktop 1.2 on machine A and connects to a Windows 2000 > Server (machine B). The W2K machine has 5 real licenses installed ("Windows > 2000 Terminal Services Client Access License", "Open" type). This can be > verifier by using "Terminal Services Licensing". The problem is that all > issued licenses have an expire-date. The expire date for the license issued > to A was reached today, and no more connections could be made until we > changed the client name (by using -n). > > We also have another similiar systems, with Linux machine C and W2K server > D. This server has 200 licenses installed of the type "Select". On this > server, the issued licenses seems to be permanent: The expire date is set > to "-", and we have no problem with this system. > > The question of course is why the first system issues license with > expiration date, while the second system issues permanent licenses. > > Both A and C runs rdesktop 1.2, but A earlier ran 1.1-something. Could > this be the problem? Or is it because of the Open/Select license type > difference? > > |