From: Guilherme B. T. <gui...@gm...> - 2013-10-11 13:06:20
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Hi, Does anyone know why the Qucs web pages were renamed to ".shtml"? http://qucs.sourceforge.net/index.shtml From the timestaps of several files it probably happened on 2013.04.28. (There is no version control on the website elsewhere, right?) There are many broken links throughout the web because they are pointing to ".html" instead. Can we fix that? I mean, was this change something required by the Sourceforge host? Regards, Guilherme |
From: Richard C. <r.c...@ed...> - 2013-10-11 13:15:10
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On 11/10/2013 14:06, Guilherme Brondani Torri wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know why the Qucs web pages were renamed to ".shtml"? > I did this, the reason for this was to allow server-side includes (SSI) to work. This allows you to do things like reproduce the headers of the website on every page without copying and pasting them on every page. It only works if the page is a .shtml page. This way you can control the look and feel of the website by just changing some CSS and a couple of master header and footer files. We can change back, but it will require copying and pasting the header and footer into every page, and doing this every time we want to change something about them. I could see if there's a way to redirect the old names to the new ones automatically. Richard -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. |
From: Guilherme B. T. <gui...@gm...> - 2013-10-11 15:19:01
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On 11/10/13 15:15, Richard Crozier wrote: > On 11/10/2013 14:06, Guilherme Brondani Torri wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Does anyone know why the Qucs web pages were renamed to ".shtml"? >> > > I did this, the reason for this was to allow server-side includes (SSI) > to work. This allows you to do things like reproduce the headers of the > website on every page without copying and pasting them on every page. It > only works if the page is a .shtml page. > > This way you can control the look and feel of the website by just > changing some CSS and a couple of master header and footer files. We can > change back, but it will require copying and pasting the header and > footer into every page, and doing this every time we want to change > something about them. > > I could see if there's a way to redirect the old names to the new ones > automatically. > Richard, thanks for clarifying. I believe there are ways to keep the pages as .html an still use SSI. What about the second post in: http://forum.powweb.com/archive/index.php/t-7628.html Or the last post in: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum92/1120.htm I'm sorry Frans, I did not understand what you meant by dead links. My concern was broken links pointing to our site, not our links point outwards. Regards, Guilherme |
From: Richard C. <r.c...@ed...> - 2013-10-11 15:23:41
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On 11/10/2013 16:18, Guilherme Brondani Torri wrote: > On 11/10/13 15:15, Richard Crozier wrote: >> On 11/10/2013 14:06, Guilherme Brondani Torri wrote: >> > Richard, thanks for clarifying. I believe there are ways to keep the > pages as .html an still use SSI. > Yes, but there are restrictions on what Sourceforge allows you to do: https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Project%20web%20and%20developer%20web%20platform#Server-SideIncludesSSI we don't have access to the settings that would allow .html to be parsed as .shtml Richard -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. |
From: Guilherme B. T. <gui...@gm...> - 2013-10-11 15:53:04
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On 11/10/13 17:23, Richard Crozier wrote: > On 11/10/2013 16:18, Guilherme Brondani Torri wrote: >> On 11/10/13 15:15, Richard Crozier wrote: >>> On 11/10/2013 14:06, Guilherme Brondani Torri wrote: > >>> >> Richard, thanks for clarifying. I believe there are ways to keep the >> pages as .html an still use SSI. >> > > > Yes, but there are restrictions on what Sourceforge allows you to do: > > https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Project%20web%20and%20developer%20web%20platform#Server-SideIncludesSSI > > > we don't have access to the settings that would allow .html to be > parsed as .shtml > Ouch. I was missing the " SSI will only be applied on files with an .shtml extension. " Perhaps the last resort is to RedirectMatch? Something like Hugin is doing with their website: https://sourceforge.net/p/hugin/hugin-web/ci/default/tree/.htaccess Regards, Guilherme |
From: Frans S. <fra...@gm...> - 2013-10-11 15:42:46
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We could make some dummy .html files that load their .shtml counterpart Op 11 okt. 2013 17:18 schreef "Guilherme Brondani Torri" <gui...@gm... >: > On 11/10/13 15:15, Richard Crozier wrote: > >> On 11/10/2013 14:06, Guilherme Brondani Torri wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Does anyone know why the Qucs web pages were renamed to ".shtml"? >>> >>> >> I did this, the reason for this was to allow server-side includes (SSI) >> to work. This allows you to do things like reproduce the headers of the >> website on every page without copying and pasting them on every page. It >> only works if the page is a .shtml page. >> >> This way you can control the look and feel of the website by just >> changing some CSS and a couple of master header and footer files. We can >> change back, but it will require copying and pasting the header and >> footer into every page, and doing this every time we want to change >> something about them. >> >> I could see if there's a way to redirect the old names to the new ones >> automatically. >> >> Richard, thanks for clarifying. I believe there are ways to keep the > pages as .html an still use SSI. > > What about the second post in: http://forum.powweb.com/** > archive/index.php/t-7628.html<http://forum.powweb.com/archive/index.php/t-7628.html> > Or the last post in: http://www.webmasterworld.com/**forum92/1120.htm<http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum92/1120.htm> > > I'm sorry Frans, I did not understand what you meant by dead links. My > concern was broken links pointing to our site, not our links point outwards. > > Regards, Guilherme > |
From: Richard C. <r.c...@ed...> - 2013-10-11 15:47:33
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On 11/10/2013 16:42, Frans Schreuder wrote: > We could make some dummy .html files that load their .shtml counterpart > doing something like this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5411538/how-to-redirect-from-an-html-page sounds ok to me. Richard -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. |
From: Chuck <cmc...@gm...> - 2013-10-11 15:46:56
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This could also be done with embedded CSS and javascript. On 10/11/2013 09:15 AM, Richard Crozier wrote: > On 11/10/2013 14:06, Guilherme Brondani Torri wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Does anyone know why the Qucs web pages were renamed to ".shtml"? >> > > I did this, the reason for this was to allow server-side includes (SSI) > to work. This allows you to do things like reproduce the headers of the > website on every page without copying and pasting them on every page. It > only works if the page is a .shtml page. > > This way you can control the look and feel of the website by just > changing some CSS and a couple of master header and footer files. We can > change back, but it will require copying and pasting the header and > footer into every page, and doing this every time we want to change > something about them. > > I could see if there's a way to redirect the old names to the new ones > automatically. > > Richard > > |
From: Richard C. <r.c...@ed...> - 2013-10-11 15:50:24
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JUst in case anyone thinks they might offend me by going ahead and solving this in some way, don't feel free to do any of the options put forward. Maybe we should put the website under version control somewhere too. Richard -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. |
From: Richard C. <r.c...@ed...> - 2013-10-11 15:52:27
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"don't feel free" should obviously be "don't, feel free", the comma makes all the difference! p.s. Frans congrats on getting married, haven't said that yet! Richard -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. |
From: Frans S. <fra...@gm...> - 2013-10-11 18:55:26
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Hi Richard, Ok, I have uploaded a simple set of html files with the shtml relocation. old external links should now work again. Thanks for your congratulations! The problem with just being married (and a new house) is that I can't find much time for nice projects like qucs anymore, but I will do my best to give my share as soon as I find time. Frans On 10/11/2013 05:52 PM, Richard Crozier wrote: > "don't feel free" should obviously be "don't, feel free", the comma > makes all the difference! > > p.s. Frans congrats on getting married, haven't said that yet! > > Richard > > |