From: Paul G. <pga...@at...> - 2002-04-05 01:37:50
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Hi folks, On 4 Apr 2002 at 16:53, Prof Abimbola Olowofoyeku wrote: > Earnie Boyd wrote: > > >:) Hopefully soon. It sounds as if I need to modify my strategy to > >provide autotools with ActiveState perl dependency then do the MinGW > >build of perl. > > The Mingw web site points to Mikey's Mingw ports, and they seem to > include the auto tools and Perl. Chek here: > ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/win32/develop/gnuwin32/mingw32/porters/Mikey > / > > Am I missing something? I doubt it. The problem with that port, where MSYS is concerned, is that it is not really set up to handle the needs of MSYS. I have not downloaded or tested any of that. I do know, unless that has been updated in the last six months, that Mikeys' stuff is rather outdated. Again, I haven't looked at it lately. Thanks though for the heads up. Paul G. > > Best regards, The Chief > -------- > Prof. Abimbola A. Olowofoyeku (The African Chief) > web: http://www.bigfoot.com/~African_Chief > email: Afr...@bi... > > > _______________________________________________ > Mingw-msys mailing list > Min...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mingw-msys |
From: Paul G. <pga...@at...> - 2002-04-05 22:59:23
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Hi folks, On 5 Apr 2002 at 7:55, Prof Abimbola Olowofoyeku wrote: > Paul G. wrote: > > > >> Am I missing something? > > > > I doubt it. The problem with that port, where MSYS is concerned, is > > > that it is not really set up to handle the needs of MSYS. > > Neither is GCC for Mingw. AFAIU, MSYS is supposed to handle all that > for itself, and therefore should be able to work with native Win32 GNU > tools. Actually, afaik, MSYS does work with native Win32 Gnu tools (specifically, mingw binutils). I use them all the time under MSYS. I just don't always use those Gnu Tools that are in the MSYS /usr/bin directory. There are times when certain binutils do not exist under /usr/bin, and then, MSYS (mine has mingw/bin as part of the MSYS tree at /usr/mingw/bin) search path looks at the mingw/bin executables -- most, if not all of which, are Win32 Gnu tools. > > >I have not downloaded or tested any of that. I do know, > > unless that has been updated in the last six > >months, that Mikeys' stuff is rather outdated. Again, I haven't > >looked at it lately. > > Again, even if it is outdated, does and should that matter? Well, the answer that I might give to that is an opinion more than anything else. I am not about to discourage anyone from doing what they wish to do, nor am I about to say that Mikeys', PW32 or even Mumits' original Mingw32 are any better or worse than anything else. Every developer has different needs. My needs, in this case, require that I have the latest release of MSYS (and subsequently mingw) installed. Stable development tools, with few exceptions, are more important to me then outdated or what appear to be "deprecated" development tools. Most especially when I am on the bleeding edge of development and/or software porting. Did the same thing with Cygwin, Mingw32 and Mingw. Still do when I can find the time. Fortunately Mingw 1.1 is very stable now, and it is the same Mingw I am using for my MSYS testing and porting purposes with a few added binutils (Gnu Win32 binutils) which are not included with the official Mingw-1.1 distro. For me, yes. I like to have the latest updates of my Gnu tools especially where the Win32 platforms are concerned. The Gnu tools that are part of Mikeys project have not been updated in years. Also, the mingw32 that is being used by Mikeys project is no longer maintained, ie. Mikeys runtime and the latest Mingw runtime are worlds apart in terms of what they are able to accomplish. Mikeys' mingw runtime is based on a version that is at least four or five years old now (gcc-2.95.2 or thereabouts). In fact the version of mingw that is being used (distro) for Mikeys is pretty much identical to Mumit Khans original Mingw32 with a few modifications to allow for an attempt at self-hosting. An attempt, which to a degree, worked. PW32 (Posix for Win32, based on Mingw) is also a project that wants to be a self-hosting. PW32 seems to manage it quite well when it is installed properly, and, afaik, is still (more or less) being maintained by its creator. Installation of PW32, and how that is accomodated, however, is critical to generate something that resembles a "stable" development tool. MSYS, at least to me, is an unfolding/blooming flower. I will do what I can, as limited as that might be, to support its growth using the latest and most stable development tools I can get my hands on. Of course, that doesn't mean I won't continue working on and with the other development tools, it only means that those other tools are not as high a priority to me as is MSYS. Paul G. > > Best regards, The Chief > -------- > Prof. Abimbola A. Olowofoyeku (The African Chief) > web: http://www.bigfoot.com/~African_Chief > email: Afr...@bi... > > > _______________________________________________ > Mingw-msys mailing list > Min...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mingw-msys |