From: Johannes L. <joh...@ma...> - 2014-01-12 07:11:57
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I think source code publishing is not necessary. But it should have no (not linux native) VSTs. Why? 1. It is Linux MMS, Linux = Not dll/exe files. 2. If you just use VSTs, then you could use FL studio aswell. Show us that you can do it with Linux aswell. |
From: Johannes L. <joh...@ma...> - 2014-01-12 07:13:42
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> i want to propose a little modified idea of collaborative work. > > that's something i was discussing on reverbnation > for me that was a kind of game, so each partner could add some > instrument, merge it in one track and push it forward for someone else. One one hand, I really like this idea. On the other, this requires some things to be taken care of: * Mastering can be very different for different artists. E.g. most LMMS users never use compression (imo a bad habit). * I'd suggest to fully exclude any VSTs for compatibility. Let's allow only built-in things and Zyn. One more thing: Should we only chose existing songs or make a competition, where musicians have like 4 weeks of time to make something new? I'd recommend the latter. |
From: Gurjot S. <bha...@gm...> - 2014-01-12 07:29:34
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On 12 January 2014 12:43, Johannes Lorenz <joh...@ma...> wrote: >> i want to propose a little modified idea of collaborative work. >> >> that's something i was discussing on reverbnation >> for me that was a kind of game, so each partner could add some >> instrument, merge it in one track and push it forward for someone else. > > One one hand, I really like this idea. Yes. It would be quite different and creative. :) > On the other, this requires some things to be taken care of: > > * Mastering can be very different for different artists. E.g. most LMMS users never use compression (imo a bad habit). Agreed! Every artist has different workflow. He/She may prefer to mix their kicks and snares early in the process (like I do) or they may do that in the end. Some artists do mixing as they stack up their beats and some prefer to wait till the end. It would pose a difficulty for each artist to give in their best even with so many limitations. > * I'd suggest to fully exclude any VSTs for compatibility. Let's allow only built-in things and Zyn. Let's make 2 categories. 1.) Making a song completely using LMMS. 2.) Making a song in LMMS but we can use external VSTs. -- Gurjot Singh Blog: http://bhattigurjot.wordpress.com |
From: Johannes L. <joh...@ma...> - 2014-01-12 20:11:04
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One more thing I'd suggest to add: Let's give the people a few weeks of time to make a song. This way, musicians can make new songs for the competition, or find out which o their old songs they'd like to use. I'd personally love to submit a track, but I'd write a completely new one. What do you think? Also, about the idea of a SoundCloud group: Sounds good to me. Maybe, however, a user might be better than a group (not sure there). |
From: Vesa <di...@nb...> - 2014-01-12 08:43:08
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On 01/12/2014 09:11 AM, Johannes Lorenz wrote: > I think source code publishing is not necessary. But it should have no (not linux native) VSTs. Why? > > 1. It is Linux MMS, Linux = Not dll/exe files. > 2. If you just use VSTs, then you could use FL studio aswell. Show us that you can do it with Linux aswell. But one of the advantages of Linux is that you're able to run (some) windows binaries on it. Besides, not all LMMS users use Linux. Should we limit the competition only to Linux users? |
From: Vesa <di...@nb...> - 2014-01-12 08:57:25
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On 01/12/2014 09:11 AM, Johannes Lorenz wrote: > I think source code publishing is not necessary. But it should have no (not linux native) VSTs. Another problem is, that LMMS still doesn't support Linux-native VST's or LV2's. Meaning, if VST's are disallowed, then there's no external instrument plugins that can be used. What if I render the output of a VST as a sample and then use samples in LMMS? We'd have to forbid samples as well... I'd also like to ask, from someone who knows, how difficult would it be to implement this support for LinuxVST, since we already have support for the VST format - the format and API should be the same between the platforms, right? Just the binary code is different? |
From: John S. <lzr...@gm...> - 2014-01-12 21:26:11
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I don't really like the idea of trying to showcase a piece of software by forbidding usage of one of its most powerful features. I think the point should be to showcase LMMS's power, not to showcase esoteric skill on the part of the artists. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Johannes Lorenz < joh...@ma...> wrote: > I think source code publishing is not necessary. But it should have no > (not linux native) VSTs. Why? > > 1. It is Linux MMS, Linux = Not dll/exe files. > 2. If you just use VSTs, then you could use FL studio aswell. Show us that > you can do it with Linux aswell. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > LMMS-devel mailing list > LMM...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel > -- Johnny |