From: David G. <dg...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 05:43:13
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I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 alpha. It still has LMMS 0.4.10! Who is the relevant Debian or Ubuntu developer putting packages into the distros? Does anyone know what's going on there? - d. |
From: Jonathan A. <eag...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 05:45:51
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I think toby the projects lead dev was doing so. Have you checked out his ppa? is there a 0.4.13 in there? On 24/09/2012 07:43, David Gerard wrote: > I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 alpha. It still has LMMS 0.4.10! Who is > the relevant Debian or Ubuntu developer putting packages into the > distros? Does anyone know what's going on there? > > > - d. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > LMMS-devel mailing list > LMM...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel |
From: David G. <dg...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 05:51:24
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On 24 September 2012 06:45, Jonathan Aquilina <eag...@gm...> wrote: > I think toby the projects lead dev was doing so. Have you checked out > his ppa? is there a 0.4.13 in there? You mean https://launchpad.net/~tobydox/+archive/lmms ? He's said he's not keeping that up to date. No, I mean the distro package. Here's the sid page: http://packages.debian.org/sid/lmms The cutting-edge Debian still has a two year old LMMS ... Patrick Winnertz, apparently. - d. |
From: Filipe L. <fa...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 05:58:03
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I have updated LMMS packages here: https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/ The packages are part of the KXStudio repositories, so there is quite a few extra stuff in there besides LMMS. Although I'm not a LMMS user myself, I do like to keep the software up-to-date. (More info about the KXStudio project here: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ ) On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:51 AM, David Gerard <dg...@gm...> wrote: > On 24 September 2012 06:45, Jonathan Aquilina <eag...@gm...> > wrote: > > > I think toby the projects lead dev was doing so. Have you checked out > > his ppa? is there a 0.4.13 in there? > > > You mean https://launchpad.net/~tobydox/+archive/lmms ? He's said he's > not keeping that up to date. > > No, I mean the distro package. Here's the sid page: > http://packages.debian.org/sid/lmms The cutting-edge Debian still has > a two year old LMMS ... Patrick Winnertz, apparently. > > > - d. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > LMMS-devel mailing list > LMM...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel > |
From: Jonathan A. <eag...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 06:03:27
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The way ubuntu works is they pull all packages per release from upstream debian. I would file a bug report to have them update it but it would be for tthe 13.04 release as its getting quite close to 12.10 release. I would also ask in ubuntu-packaging on irc.freenode.net and see if they can bump it up for 12.10 as I am not sure what that procedure is. On 24/09/2012 07:51, David Gerard wrote: > On 24 September 2012 06:45, Jonathan Aquilina <eag...@gm...> wrote: > >> I think toby the projects lead dev was doing so. Have you checked out >> his ppa? is there a 0.4.13 in there? > > You mean https://launchpad.net/~tobydox/+archive/lmms ? He's said he's > not keeping that up to date. > > No, I mean the distro package. Here's the sid page: > http://packages.debian.org/sid/lmms The cutting-edge Debian still has > a two year old LMMS ... Patrick Winnertz, apparently. > > > - d. |
From: David G. <dg...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 09:41:51
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On 24 September 2012 06:57, Filipe Lopes <fa...@gm...> wrote: > I have updated LMMS packages here: > https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/ > The packages are part of the KXStudio repositories, so there is quite a few > extra stuff in there besides LMMS. > Although I'm not a LMMS user myself, I do like to keep the software > up-to-date. Cool :-) How would one get *just* LMMS? I'd like a maintained current version, but not to have lots of other stuff that just happens to be in the KXStudio repos replaced. - d. |
From: David G. <dg...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 09:42:18
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On 24 September 2012 07:03, Jonathan Aquilina <eag...@gm...> wrote: > The way ubuntu works is they pull all packages per release from upstream > debian. I would file a bug report to have them update it but it would be for > tthe 13.04 release as its getting quite close to 12.10 release. I would also > ask in ubuntu-packaging on irc.freenode.net and see if they can bump it up > for 12.10 as I am not sure what that procedure is. I've emailed the named Debian developer asking what's up with LMMS and if he still maintains it. - d. |
From: Jonathan A. <eag...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 10:57:06
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When you install from a PPA all it does is installs the version of lmms that is in there none of the KXStudio stuff unless KXStudio is set as a dependency of lmms that is in the ppa. On 24/09/2012 11:41, David Gerard wrote: > On 24 September 2012 06:57, Filipe Lopes <fa...@gm...> wrote: > >> I have updated LMMS packages here: >> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/ >> The packages are part of the KXStudio repositories, so there is quite a few >> extra stuff in there besides LMMS. >> Although I'm not a LMMS user myself, I do like to keep the software >> up-to-date. > > Cool :-) > > How would one get *just* LMMS? I'd like a maintained current version, > but not to have lots of other stuff that just happens to be in the > KXStudio repos replaced. > > > - d. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > LMMS-devel mailing list > LMM...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel |
From: David G. <dg...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 10:59:44
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On 24 September 2012 11:56, Jonathan Aquilina <eag...@gm...> wrote: > On 24/09/2012 11:41, David Gerard wrote: >> On 24 September 2012 06:57, Filipe Lopes <fa...@gm...> wrote: >>> I have updated LMMS packages here: >>> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/ >> How would one get *just* LMMS? I'd like a maintained current version, >> but not to have lots of other stuff that just happens to be in the >> KXStudio repos replaced. > When you install from a PPA all it does is installs the version of lmms > that is in there none of the KXStudio stuff unless KXStudio is set as a > dependency of lmms that is in the ppa. Yyyesss ... until next apt-get update;apt-get upgrade , at which point any stuff you've installed from the distro that just happens to be in the PPA gets replaced with the PPA version. This is what I don't want to happen. Is it possible to, e.g., just get the lmms-related debs? - d. |
From: Raine M. E. <ra...@ik...> - 2012-09-24 11:52:29
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Quoting David Gerard <dg...@gm...>: > On 24 September 2012 11:56, Jonathan Aquilina <eag...@gm...> wrote: >> On 24/09/2012 11:41, David Gerard wrote: >>> On 24 September 2012 06:57, Filipe Lopes <fa...@gm...> wrote: > >>>> I have updated LMMS packages here: >>>> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/ > >>> How would one get *just* LMMS? I'd like a maintained current version, >>> but not to have lots of other stuff that just happens to be in the >>> KXStudio repos replaced. > >> When you install from a PPA all it does is installs the version of lmms >> that is in there none of the KXStudio stuff unless KXStudio is set as a >> dependency of lmms that is in the ppa. > > > Yyyesss ... until next apt-get update;apt-get upgrade , at which point > any stuff you've installed from the distro that just happens to be in > the PPA gets replaced with the PPA version. This is what I don't want > to happen. Is it possible to, e.g., just get the lmms-related debs? There's this thing called pinning: http://askubuntu.com/questions/170235/how-do-i-cherry-pick-packages-from-a-ppa Manual install might work with a little luck: - First install the Ubuntu-built version of LMMS to get the dependencies - Search for LMMS in your chosen PPA, and end up on a page like this: https://launchpad.net/~dns/+archive/sound/+packages?field.name_filter=lmms - Click on the suitable package, and you'll get links to download .debs for various architectures. - Download .deb, say "sudo dpkg -i lmms_etcetera.deb" -- ra...@ik... http://www.mikseri.net/radioproject |
From: Jonathan A. <eag...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 11:01:45
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Not really. the sad thing about the ppa's you build on the hardware run by canonical the people that run the ubuntu project. If the ppa maintainer wants to create another package for you on his local system you would need to contact him. and if you do that make sure you run apt-get build-dep to install any dependencies which will be needed by lmms. as a last resort You can compile it from source. so you have quite a number of methods to get the latest version of lmms. On 24/09/2012 12:59, David Gerard wrote: > On 24 September 2012 11:56, Jonathan Aquilina <eag...@gm...> wrote: >> On 24/09/2012 11:41, David Gerard wrote: >>> On 24 September 2012 06:57, Filipe Lopes <fa...@gm...> wrote: >>>> I have updated LMMS packages here: >>>> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/ >>> How would one get *just* LMMS? I'd like a maintained current version, >>> but not to have lots of other stuff that just happens to be in the >>> KXStudio repos replaced. >> When you install from a PPA all it does is installs the version of lmms >> that is in there none of the KXStudio stuff unless KXStudio is set as a >> dependency of lmms that is in the ppa. > > Yyyesss ... until next apt-get update;apt-get upgrade , at which point > any stuff you've installed from the distro that just happens to be in > the PPA gets replaced with the PPA version. This is what I don't want > to happen. Is it possible to, e.g., just get the lmms-related debs? > > > - d. |
From: David G. <dg...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 11:06:45
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On 24 September 2012 12:01, Jonathan Aquilina <eag...@gm...> wrote: > Not really. the sad thing about the ppa's you build on the hardware run by > canonical the people that run the ubuntu project. If the ppa maintainer > wants to create another package for you on his local system you would need > to contact him. and if you do that make sure you run apt-get build-dep to > install any dependencies which will be needed by lmms. as a last resort You > can compile it from source. so you have quite a number of methods to get the > latest version of lmms. Yeah, that's what I thought. I have built lmms from source before, and I have a new laptop that, unlike the ancient Mini 9 it replaces, (a) has enough CPU to actually do synthesis and effects in real time (b) enough disk to do compiles from source. So I'll do that :-) - d. |
From: Jonathan A. <eag...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 11:07:47
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also something that might help speed up the compilation process. when using make add the -j switch and specify how many cores you want to allocate to the compilation process. for example: make -j4 <-- that means it will use 4 cores to compile the source code. On 24/09/2012 13:06, David Gerard wrote: > On 24 September 2012 12:01, Jonathan Aquilina <eag...@gm...> wrote: > >> Not really. the sad thing about the ppa's you build on the hardware run by >> canonical the people that run the ubuntu project. If the ppa maintainer >> wants to create another package for you on his local system you would need >> to contact him. and if you do that make sure you run apt-get build-dep to >> install any dependencies which will be needed by lmms. as a last resort You >> can compile it from source. so you have quite a number of methods to get the >> latest version of lmms. > > Yeah, that's what I thought. I have built lmms from source before, and > I have a new laptop that, unlike the ancient Mini 9 it replaces, (a) > has enough CPU to actually do synthesis and effects in real time (b) > enough disk to do compiles from source. So I'll do that :-) > > > - d. |
From: Filipe L. <fa...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 15:43:07
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You can browse the PPA packages and search for LMMS, then install its packages manually: https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=lmms&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= Thing is though, almost everything in that PPA is tested by me and others daily. There might be a lot of stuff in there, but it's for your own good (most things are multimedia-related packages). Any package problem found by users is quickly fixed by me. On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:41 AM, David Gerard <dg...@gm...> wrote: > On 24 September 2012 06:57, Filipe Lopes <fa...@gm...> wrote: > > > I have updated LMMS packages here: > > https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/ > > The packages are part of the KXStudio repositories, so there is quite a > few > > extra stuff in there besides LMMS. > > Although I'm not a LMMS user myself, I do like to keep the software > > up-to-date. > > > Cool :-) > > How would one get *just* LMMS? I'd like a maintained current version, > but not to have lots of other stuff that just happens to be in the > KXStudio repos replaced. > > > - d. > |
From: David G. <dg...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 16:00:02
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On 24 September 2012 16:42, Filipe Lopes <fa...@gm...> wrote: > Thing is though, almost everything in that PPA is tested by me and others > daily. > There might be a lot of stuff in there, but it's for your own good (most > things are multimedia-related packages). > Any package problem found by users is quickly fixed by me. That does increase my confidence a bit :-) - d. |
From: Piotr M. <dna...@gm...> - 2012-09-24 16:23:34
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Hello. Another source is the dns/sound PPA. It seems to have a bit more current packages, at least based on the upload date. I'm using them currently, but it seems they need an update as lmms-vst package is binded to the old wine 1.4 package, which makes running wine apps (with wine 1.5) and keeping LMMS's VST capability a bit tricky. ;) https://launchpad.net/~dns/+archive/sound Regards, Piotr Mrożek 2012/9/24 David Gerard <dg...@gm...> > On 24 September 2012 16:42, Filipe Lopes <fa...@gm...> wrote: > > > Thing is though, almost everything in that PPA is tested by me and others > > daily. > > There might be a lot of stuff in there, but it's for your own good (most > > things are multimedia-related packages). > > Any package problem found by users is quickly fixed by me. > > > That does increase my confidence a bit :-) > > > - d. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > LMMS-devel mailing list > LMM...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel > |
From: David G. <dg...@gm...> - 2012-11-27 14:10:35
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On 24 September 2012 10:42, David Gerard <dg...@gm...> wrote: > On 24 September 2012 07:03, Jonathan Aquilina <eag...@gm...> wrote: >> The way ubuntu works is they pull all packages per release from upstream >> debian. I would file a bug report to have them update it but it would be for >> tthe 13.04 release as its getting quite close to 12.10 release. I would also >> ask in ubuntu-packaging on irc.freenode.net and see if they can bump it up >> for 12.10 as I am not sure what that procedure is. > I've emailed the named Debian developer asking what's up with LMMS and > if he still maintains it. I got no answer. It seems that Patrick Winnertz has disappeared, and lmms is a zombie Debian package. So - anyone want to go through the bureaucracy to become a Debian developer? - d. |
From: Tobias D. <tob...@gm...> - 2012-11-27 14:33:32
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Hi, 2012/11/27 David Gerard <dg...@gm...>: >> I've emailed the named Debian developer asking what's up with LMMS and >> if he still maintains it. > > > I got no answer. It seems that Patrick Winnertz has disappeared, and > lmms is a zombie Debian package. > > So - anyone want to go through the bureaucracy to become a Debian developer? AFAIK Israel Dahl (see Cc) has been become the maintainer of the Ubuntu packages recently. Toby |
From: Paul G. <dr...@gm...> - 2012-12-10 22:40:31
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On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Tobias Doerffel <tob...@gm...>wrote: > Hi, > > 2012/11/27 David Gerard <dg...@gm...>: > >> I've emailed the named Debian developer asking what's up with LMMS and > >> if he still maintains it. > > > > > > I got no answer. It seems that Patrick Winnertz has disappeared, and > > lmms is a zombie Debian package. > > > > So - anyone want to go through the bureaucracy to become a Debian > developer? > > > AFAIK Israel Dahl (see Cc) has been become the maintainer of the > Ubuntu packages recently. > > Toby > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > _______________________________________________ > LMMS-devel mailing list > LMM...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel > Any update on this? It would at least be nice to get an acknowledgement back from the current maintainer, and make sure we can get the current version in for 13.04. -- Paul |
From: Israel <isr...@gm...> - 2012-12-10 22:46:22
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On 12/10/2012 04:40 PM, Paul Giblock wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Tobias Doerffel > <tob...@gm... <mailto:tob...@gm...>> wrote: > > Hi, > > 2012/11/27 David Gerard <dg...@gm... > <mailto:dg...@gm...>>: > >> I've emailed the named Debian developer asking what's up with > LMMS and > >> if he still maintains it. > > > > > > I got no answer. It seems that Patrick Winnertz has disappeared, and > > lmms is a zombie Debian package. > > > > So - anyone want to go through the bureaucracy to become a > Debian developer? > > > AFAIK Israel Dahl (see Cc) has been become the maintainer of the > Ubuntu packages recently. > > Toby > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, > vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > _______________________________________________ > LMMS-devel mailing list > LMM...@li... > <mailto:LMM...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel > > > Any update on this? It would at least be nice to get an > acknowledgement back from the current maintainer, and make sure we can > get the current version in for 13.04. > > -- Paul > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial > Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support > Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services > Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers > http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d > > > _______________________________________________ > LMMS-devel mailing list > LMM...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel Oh, sorry, I have been talking to Toby lately... sorry I am in the process of fixing lintian errors, and some of the bugs like the lack of a desktop file, (which also effects the software-center) I have submitted 0.4.13 and proposed it to be merged, but I will contact the person who is working on this merger, and I'll propose merging 0.4.14 in instead... the feature freeze for Raring is in March so I should have PLENTY of time. I have also e-mailed the Debian MIA people, but have had no response. It might help if you also e-mailed MIA and put some heat on the issue. I should have e-mailed the whole group, my apologies. -- Regards |
From: David G. <dg...@gm...> - 2012-12-10 22:51:43
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On 10 December 2012 22:46, Israel <isr...@gm...> wrote: > Oh, sorry, I have been talking to Toby lately... sorry I am in the process > of fixing lintian errors, and some of the bugs like the lack of a desktop > file, (which also effects the software-center) I have submitted 0.4.13 and > proposed it to be merged, but I will contact the person who is working on > this merger, and I'll propose merging 0.4.14 in instead... the feature > freeze for Raring is in March so I should have PLENTY of time. I have also > e-mailed the Debian MIA people, but have had no response. It might help if > you also e-mailed MIA and put some heat on the issue. I should have > e-mailed the whole group, my apologies. Thank you VERY much for your work on this! - d. |
From: Israel <isr...@gm...> - 2012-12-11 14:14:39
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Quick Debian/Ubuntu update: The Debian files are pretty outdated so Charlie Smotherman has been working with me quite diligently to get rid of the useless stuff and make a simple working debian directory. Until then we have a somewhat working package in the raring repos, and the old outdated Debian package. If things go well we will have the package working soon, and will upload it to Debian as well. And then possibly take over the Debian package management. I am incredibly new to all this but Charlie has been invaluable in assisting me with all the Debian integration. -- Regards |
From: Paul G. <dr...@gm...> - 2012-12-11 14:38:08
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Thank you for your tenacity! -- Paul On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Israel <isr...@gm...> wrote: > Quick Debian/Ubuntu update: > > The Debian files are pretty outdated so Charlie Smotherman has been > working with me quite diligently to get rid of the useless stuff and > make a simple working debian directory. Until then we have a somewhat > working package in the raring repos, and the old outdated Debian > package. If things go well we will have the package working soon, and > will upload it to Debian as well. And then possibly take over the > Debian package management. I am incredibly new to all this but Charlie > has been invaluable in assisting me with all the Debian integration. > > -- > Regards > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial > Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support > Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services > Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers > http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d > _______________________________________________ > LMMS-devel mailing list > LMM...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel > |