Re: Re: Re: [Kdenlive-devel] Reinhard will be happy...

[Reinhard A. <pr...@we...>]

Hi Jason,

i still haven't received an answer if a timeline cursor is really necessary, right?
Or have I miss it someway?

greetings
Reinhard




kde...@li... schrieb am 21.08.03 17:57:28:
> 
> kde...@li... schrieb am 20.08.03 05:56:58:
> > 
> > On Monday 18 Aug 2003 2:05 pm, Reinhard Amersberger wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm back from vacation and checked out the shortcut dialog and you are
> > > right .... Reinhard "IS" very happy with it!! ;-)) Cool!! :-)
> > >
> > > Just a question ... is it planned to activate the different sections of
> > > Kdenlive (timeline, clip monitor, Projekt list, effect list, ...) via
> > > shortcuts? 
> > 
> > Probably - there is the whole issue of keyboard focus that needs to be sorted 
> > out first though - basically, if you click a window at the moment, that 
> > doesn't guarantee that the keypresses go to that window. The most obvious 
> > example of this is pressing the "delete" key on a clip selected in the 
> > project list. Intuitively, it should delete the clip from the project list, 
> > whilst what actually happens is that it deletes the selected clips in the 
> > timeline.
> 
> 
> Yes, I think it is very important that the performed action has an effect depending of the actual activated window only ... so I think you have enough to do to solve this "fraudulent" behaviour ;-)
> 
>  
> > > So, in combination with a special mode (assemble), maybe this 
> > > could offer an fast way to create rough video cuts ...
> > >
> > > What I mean is:
> > > Choose a clip to be displayed in the clip monitor, set in and out points,
> > > hit a key (to define in shortcut dialog ;-) to add this area to the
> > > timeline behind the last active/inserted/assembled clip ... and so on. If
> > > this (assemble) mode is de-activated the selected area could be
> > > inserted/positioned into a new track on the right side of the timeslider
> > 
> > There would be no need to for an extra assemble mode - but what is missing and 
> > would be needed is the idea of a keyboard cursor in the timeline - I believe 
> > we talked about something similar a couple of months ago. Then, in the 
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, I can remember vaguely ...
> 
> 
> > timeline you would be able to position via the keyboard where the next clip 
> > should go - with it automatically moving to the end of a clip that has just 
> > been added.
> > 
> > So it's possible, stick it on the wishlist on the sourceforge project page so 
> > I don't forget ;-)
> 
> 
> Hhhmmm ... yes, I can do this, but ... is there really a need for this keyboard cursor?
> 
> Because I think you would need to have another viewer window that show the frame at the actual keyboard cursors position ...
> Also you would need to have specific shortcuts to move the keyboard cursor around ...
> 
> But what about the things that are already there? I mean the In points, Out points and the time slider of the timeline.
> 
> I think maybe you just need to offer a way to specify one (or some) active track(s) and the kind of how to insert the source?!?
> 
> Just some examples:
> Assuming having in/out points in source viewer and timeline and source viewer is activated.
> 
> Press number key "4" to do a 4-point-edit.
> this means: the marked source area, by in/out point, will be fitted between in/out point of timeline.
> 
> Press number key "3" to do a 3-point-edit.
> this means: the source will be inserted from in point to out point of timeline beginning at in point of source viewer.
> 
> Press number key "2" to add the source at the right side of the time slider and automatically move the time slider to the end of the added source clip.
> 
> Press number key "1" to add the source at the right side of the time slider without moving the time slider to the end of the added source clip.
> 
> 
> So this way you possibly be able to offer ALL edit modes I can imagine right now.
> 
> And if the user do this actions by drag and drop something to the timeline ..... an dialog could pop-up to let the user choose the needed insertion method, if the situation is not clear.
> 
> Okay, I know there are lots of questions/problems left (what if source material is shorter than time between in/out point in 3-point-editing??? what if marked source area is longer or shorter in 4-point-edit??? should an dialog be opened to let the user choose the mode in unclear situations??? how to move In/Out points by keyboard shortcuts??? ........), but this is again JUST ANOTHER IDEA ;-)
> 
> 
> greetings
> Reinhard
> 
> 
> 
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