From: Todd P. <to...@da...> - 2000-10-24 01:48:45
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Hi, Since Kevin no longer seems to be doing anything with his plugins it seems many (not all) have not been updated for a while. I know other's have said they would assume reposonsibility for them, but again, I haven't seen much movement on many of them. I know Dirk is working on JCompiler currently =) I don't currently have time to work on any major functionality changes, but I'm quite willing to put some effort into tidying them up a bit. My thoughts currently are to: * remove the huge package names * add proper version properties * add jmk makefiles if not present. * Improve documentation if lacking This would solve the PluginManager ->Update plugins problems, and also remove the log messages when they were started. As far as I can tell, this is the current set of Kevin's plugins that no one is working on: * JavaInsight * PluginHolder * ProjectPlugin * QuickBuffer * JVMInfo If no one else is working on them, and no one has objections I'd like to tidy them up. Please let me know if this causes any problems =) Todd -- Todd Papaioannou @ Earth http://www.luckyspin.org Luckyspin @ TerraFirmA http://terrafirma.terra.mud.org . . . . . . . . . . . |
From: Slava P. <sp...@gj...> - 2000-10-24 04:54:35
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Todd Papaioannou wrote: > I don't currently have time to work on any major functionality > changes, but I'm quite willing to put some effort into tidying them > up a bit. My thoughts currently are to: > > * remove the huge package names > * add proper version properties > * add jmk makefiles if not present. > * Improve documentation if lacking Removing the BuildTools dependencies (if possible) would be nice as well. > * PluginHolder This one is obsolete. > * QuickBuffer I think Dirk's BufferList is a nice replacement for this. > * JVMInfo This isn't listed on plugin central?? Slava |
From: Dirk M. <dmo...@gm...> - 2000-10-24 11:01:58
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> I know other's have said they would assume reposonsibility > for them, but again, I haven't seen much movement on > many of them. I know Dirk is working on JCompiler currently =) Yes. The release is ready and should soon appear here. > up a bit. My thoughts currently are to: > > * remove the huge package names > * add proper version properties > * add jmk makefiles if not present. > * Improve documentation if lacking Plus: * remove Ant files * remove bin directories * remove API doc (developers can create this for themselves, if they wish to) * remove class files from CVS repository > * JavaInsight > * PluginHolder > * ProjectPlugin > * QuickBuffer > * JVMInfo QuickBuffer will soon be superseeded by my new BufferList plugin. Updating ProjectPlugin is o.k., but be aware that Kevin once noticed that it would be best to "rewrite the whole thing from ground up". I wouldn't update PluginHolder, because the new Dockable API of jEdit 2.6pre3 supersedes it. Instead I would update JavaInsight and JVMInfo (and possibly ProjectManager, QuickBuffer) to use the Dockable API. Besides, the Dockable API is really easier. > If no one else is working on them, and no one has objections > I'd like to tidy them up. This is a great idea. Thanks, in advance. Dirk. -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net |
From: Todd P. <to...@da...> - 2000-10-25 00:04:13
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Ok, so thanks to everyone for their feedback. This is how I will approach things: List of things to do: * remove the huge package names * add proper version properties * add jmk makefiles if not present. * Improve documentation if lacking * remove Ant files * remove bin directories * remove API doc * remove class files from CVS repository * Remove BuildTools dependancies (if possible) * If time, update to use DockableAPI Plugin List * Merge JVMInfo with AboutPlugin * JavaInsight * ProjectPlugin So, just to clarify a few points: I think that I will merge JVMInfo with AboutPlugins to form AboutPlugin. AboutPlugins was started in an effort to do what PluginManager does now. Thus, there is no need for it. However, I personally find it useful for doing quick checks of which plugins I have. JVMInfo is pretty useful if you need that sort of info. Merging them, and adding a bit more info, would allow a central place for checking info about a jedit environment. Since PluginHolder is obsolete, I guess we could tag that, and remove it from CVS. QuickBuffer seems to be on the way to obselesence too. > Updating ProjectPlugin is o.k., but be aware that Kevin once noticed that > it would be best to "rewrite the whole thing from ground up". Yeah, I remember that, but I still use it every day. It's a great way to group files, and until we have something better, I think it's still useful =) This won't be a hugely fast process, I'm currently very busy, but I will make a start =) Todd ps. If Jamie LaScolea is watching, are you doing anything with RecentFileList? That also has no props file, and could fit into the above scheme of things. If not, can you check it into cvs please? -- Todd Papaioannou @ Earth http://www.luckyspin.org Luckyspin @ TerraFirmA http://terrafirma.terra.mud.org Why search for life when you can create it? http://www.dalilab.com . . . . . . . . . . . |
From: mike d. <md...@st...> - 2000-10-25 00:21:09
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Todd Papaioannou wrote: > ps. If Jamie LaScolea is watching, are you doing anything with > RecentFileList? That also has no props file, and could fit into the above > scheme of things. If not, can you check it into cvs please? Jamie doesn't have write access to the CVS. -md |
From: Jamie L. <ja...@ea...> - 2000-10-25 16:03:30
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RecentFileList.jar
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Dirk Moebius wrote: >RecentFileList? Never heard of it. Where is it? it's a plugin i hacked out of kevin's QuickBuffer plugin that pops up a dialog with th recent files in a list to choose from, with a column for the file Name and another for the Path. i posted it twice on the lists, but Todd Papaioannou was the only one to ever respond to me, so i sent it to him. i never got a chance to put it into cvs, and unfortunately, im a dumb-ass and lost the src for this plugin. :( soooo....... i have attached the jar with the class files, and if anyone wants to decompile it to get the source, please do. i would but don't really have the time to look into how to even do that. i find this plugin to be very quick and convient, by binding it to Alt-Q. sorry for the inconvenience. ________________________ ///o-o\\\ Jamie LaScolea Interface Design Engineer ja...@ea... 802.658.1154 http://www.earthcars.com http://careers.earthcars.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike dillon" <md...@st...> To: <jed...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [ jEdit-users ] Tidying up plugins > On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Todd Papaioannou wrote: > > ps. If Jamie LaScolea is watching, are you doing anything with > > RecentFileList? That also has no props file, and could fit into the above > > scheme of things. If not, can you check it into cvs please? > > Jamie doesn't have write access to the CVS. > > -md > > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > jEdit Users' List > jEd...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/jedit-users |
From: Dirk M. <dmo...@gm...> - 2000-10-25 17:07:07
Attachments:
RecentFileList.jar
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> it's a plugin i hacked out of kevin's QuickBuffer plugin that pops up a > dialog with th recent files in a list to choose from, with a column for > the file Name and another for the Path. Like I said, BufferList presents a recent files list, too. So it wouldn't be worth the effort to decompile RecentFileList.jar. Mike will put out version 0.1 of BufferList soon. Version 0.2 will be fully keyboard navigable, and optionally present the two-column layout. Dirk. -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net |
From: Todd P. <to...@da...> - 2000-10-25 18:33:28
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--On 25 October, 2000 12:04 PM -0400 Jamie LaScolea <ja...@ea...> wrote: > i > never got a chance to put it into cvs, and unfortunately, im a dumb-ass and > lost the src for this plugin. :( > > soooo....... i have attached the jar with the class files, and if anyone > wants to decompile it to get the source, please do. i would but don't really > have the time to look into how to even do that. i find this plugin to be > very quick and convient, by binding it to Alt-Q. I have the src, so I will check it into CVS =) I also find it way useful with Alt-R. (and have a few ideas on how to improve it) Todd -- Todd Papaioannou @ Earth http://www.luckyspin.org Luckyspin @ TerraFirmA http://terrafirma.terra.mud.org Why search for life when you can create it? http://www.dalilab.com . . . . . . . . . . . |
From: Todd P. <to...@da...> - 2000-10-25 23:38:08
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--On 25 October, 2000 11:33 AM -0700 Todd Papaioannou <to...@da...> wrote: > I have the src, so I will check it into CVS =) Tis done. I also added a properties file, some documentation and a makefile. Mike, it's now version 0.0.2. Can you get this onto PC please? Thanks Todd -- Todd Papaioannou @ Earth http://www.luckyspin.org Luckyspin @ TerraFirmA http://terrafirma.terra.mud.org Why search for life when you can create it? http://www.dalilab.com . . . . . . . . . . . |
From: mike d. <md...@st...> - 2000-10-25 23:48:04
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Todd Papaioannou wrote: > Tis done. I also added a properties file, some documentation and a makefile. > Mike, it's now version 0.0.2. Can you get this onto PC please? i'd rather not. Dirk's BufferList plugin is already going up and it does the same thing. if we add RecentFileList, there will be even more confusion that just QuickBuffer and BufferList alone will cause. i will put it up if folks think that's the thing to do, but it seems to me that it is not. -md |
From: Todd P. <to...@da...> - 2000-10-26 01:55:47
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--On 25 October, 2000 4:48 PM -0700 mike dillon <md...@st...> wrote: > i'd rather not. Dirk's BufferList plugin is already going up and it does the > same thing. if we add RecentFileList, there will be even more confusion that > just QuickBuffer and BufferList alone will cause. Ok. I look foward to be able to get my hands on it =) In the meantime, anyone else who fancies a simple but effective way of accessing recent files can get it from my jedit page at: http://www.luckyspin.org/Projects/jEdit/ Todd -- Todd Papaioannou @ Earth http://www.luckyspin.org Luckyspin @ TerraFirmA http://terrafirma.terra.mud.org Why search for life when you can create it? http://www.dalilab.com . . . . . . . . . . . |
From: Chris T. <ch...@ch...> - 2000-10-26 02:34:11
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hello all- I would very much like to get CodeAid working (as well as JIndex, but that's a topic for another email), but I must be doing something wrong. I generated the .cdb file with the following command: d:\jedit2.6pre6\jars\CodeAid\cdbbuild.bat -s c:\jdk1.2.2\src.jar -o sun-122.cdb and everything seemed to work just fine. I then placed this file in c:\windows\.jedit\codeaid\ and fired up jEdit. I opened up an existing java file that has code in it like this: String hello = "Hello world!"; and on the next line I type: hello. and wait a second and nothing happens (I had configured codeaid to automatically popup after 500ms). When I go to the codeaid menu and choose method popup, nothing happens. I looked in the activity log and didn't see anything that was obviously related to CodeAid. Am I doing something wrong? Here is some relevant info from the activity log: [message] Log: java.version=1.2.2 [message] Log: java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc. [message] Log: java.compiler=symcjit [message] Log: os.name=Windows 95 [message] Log: os.version=4.10 [message] Log: os.arch=x86 [message] Log: user.home=C:\WINDOWS [notice] jEdit: jEdit version 2.6pre6 [message] jEdit: Settings directory is C:\WINDOWS\.jedit [notice] jEdit: Loading plugins from D:\jEdit 2.6pre6\jars <snip> [message] CodeAidInfoPluginPart: CodeAid DB loaded successfully: [sun-122.cdb] Sincerest regards, Chris Todd Software Engineer Alabanza Corporation ct...@al... |
From: Chris T. <ch...@ch...> - 2000-10-26 02:51:19
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ahem, sorry about that. I just went back and looked through the emails on the list over the last couple of weeks and saw others had had problems with CodeAid in jEdit 2.6. I will follow Andre's suggestion and try to download it from CVS and build it or perhaps downgrade to 2.5.1. Sorry for the noise. Sincerest regards, Chris Todd Software Engineer Alabanza Corporation ct...@al... Work phone: 740-282-2971 x5218 FAX: 740-282-3207 >-----Original Message----- >From: jed...@li... >[mailto:jed...@li...]On Behalf Of Chris Todd >Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 10:33 PM >To: jed...@li... >Subject: [ jEdit-users ] Am I doing something wrong with CodeAid > > >hello all- > >I would very much like to get CodeAid working (as well as JIndex, >but that's >a topic for another email), but I must be doing something wrong. I >generated the .cdb file with the following command: > >d:\jedit2.6pre6\jars\CodeAid\cdbbuild.bat -s c:\jdk1.2.2\src.jar -o >sun-122.cdb > >and everything seemed to work just fine. I then placed this file in >c:\windows\.jedit\codeaid\ and fired up jEdit. I opened up an >existing java >file that has code in it like this: > >String hello = "Hello world!"; > >and on the next line I type: > >hello. > >and wait a second and nothing happens (I had configured codeaid to >automatically popup after 500ms). When I go to the codeaid menu and choose >method popup, nothing happens. I looked in the activity log and didn't see >anything that was obviously related to CodeAid. Am I doing >something wrong? > >Here is some relevant info from the activity log: > >[message] Log: java.version=1.2.2 >[message] Log: java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc. >[message] Log: java.compiler=symcjit >[message] Log: os.name=Windows 95 >[message] Log: os.version=4.10 >[message] Log: os.arch=x86 >[message] Log: user.home=C:\WINDOWS >[notice] jEdit: jEdit version 2.6pre6 >[message] jEdit: Settings directory is C:\WINDOWS\.jedit >[notice] jEdit: Loading plugins from D:\jEdit 2.6pre6\jars ><snip> >[message] CodeAidInfoPluginPart: CodeAid DB loaded successfully: >[sun-122.cdb] > >Sincerest regards, >Chris Todd >Software Engineer >Alabanza Corporation >ct...@al... > >-- >----------------------------------------------- >jEdit Users' List >jEd...@li... >http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/jedit-users > > |
From: Slava P. <sp...@gj...> - 2000-10-26 03:42:11
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mike dillon wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Todd Papaioannou wrote: > > Tis done. I also added a properties file, some documentation and a makefile. > > Mike, it's now version 0.0.2. Can you get this onto PC please? > > i'd rather not. Dirk's BufferList plugin is already going up and it does the > same thing. if we add RecentFileList, there will be even more confusion that > just QuickBuffer and BufferList alone will cause. Get rid of QuickBuffer. Slava |
From: Jamie L. <ja...@ea...> - 2000-10-26 13:07:39
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will BufferList have the ability to only show one of the 2 panes if the user wants to? in other words, will i be able to setup BL so it only shows the recent files? I use RecentFileList as a quick popup, and it would be nice to be able to use BufferList in the same manner. thanx. ________________________ ///o-o\\\ Jamie LaScolea Interface Design Engineer ja...@ea... 802.658.1154 http://www.earthcars.com http://careers.earthcars.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike dillon" <md...@st...> To: <jed...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [ jEdit-users ] Tidying up plugins > On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Todd Papaioannou wrote: > > Tis done. I also added a properties file, some documentation and a makefile. > > Mike, it's now version 0.0.2. Can you get this onto PC please? > > i'd rather not. Dirk's BufferList plugin is already going up and it does the > same thing. if we add RecentFileList, there will be even more confusion that > just QuickBuffer and BufferList alone will cause. > > i will put it up if folks think that's the thing to do, but it seems to me that > it is not. > > -md > > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > jEdit Users' List > jEd...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/jedit-users |
From: Dirk M. <dmo...@gm...> - 2000-10-27 10:05:29
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Jamie, > will BufferList have the ability to only show one of the 2 panes if the user > wants to? in other words, will i be able to setup BL so it only shows the > recent files? I use RecentFileList as a quick popup, and it would be nice to > be able to use BufferList in the same manner. Click on the up button of the split bar between both lists. BufferList saves the split bar position. Dirk. |
From: Jamie L. <ja...@ea...> - 2000-10-27 12:59:08
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ahhhhh.... thanx. ________________________ ///o-o\\\ Jamie LaScolea Interface Design Engineer ja...@ea... 802.658.1154 http://www.earthcars.com http://careers.earthcars.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dirk Moebius" <dmo...@gm...> To: <jed...@li...> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [ jEdit-users ] Tidying up plugins > Jamie, > > > will BufferList have the ability to only show one of the 2 panes if the > user > > wants to? in other words, will i be able to setup BL so it only shows the > > recent files? I use RecentFileList as a quick popup, and it would be nice > to > > be able to use BufferList in the same manner. > > Click on the up button of the split bar between both lists. > BufferList saves the split bar position. > > Dirk. > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > jEdit Users' List > jEd...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/jedit-users |
From: Dirk M. <dmo...@gm...> - 2000-10-25 09:53:54
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> Ok, so thanks to everyone for their feedback. This is how I will > approach things: All your ideas and considerations are ok. I'm exited to see the results... :) > ps. If Jamie LaScolea is watching, are you doing anything with > RecentFileList? RecentFileList? Never heard of it. Where is it? Note that my upcoming BufferList displays a recent files list, too. (Not very well in version 0.1, but soon will...) Dirk. -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net |
From: Clayton L. S. <te...@en...> - 2000-10-25 19:20:32
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Todd Papaioannou wrote: > Since PluginHolder is obsolete, I guess we could tag that, and remove it > from CVS. Maybe just port PluginHolder to be wrapper to Dockable API so some PluginHolder Plugins can hang on for a while? Clayton |
From: Slava P. <sp...@gj...> - 2000-10-26 04:45:54
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"Clayton L. Scott" wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Todd Papaioannou wrote: > > > Since PluginHolder is obsolete, I guess we could tag that, and remove it > > from CVS. > > Maybe just port PluginHolder to be wrapper to Dockable API so some > PluginHolder Plugins can hang on for a while? The only two left are JavaInsight and ProjectViewer, so it would be easier to port these two than make such a wrapper. Slava |
From: Todd P. <to...@da...> - 2000-10-26 18:48:00
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--On 26 October, 2000 2:35 PM +1100 Slava Pestov <sp...@gj...> wrote: > The only two left are JavaInsight and ProjectViewer, so it would be easier > to port these two than make such a wrapper. Clipper also needs to be migrated =) -- Todd Papaioannou @ Earth http://www.luckyspin.org Luckyspin @ TerraFirmA http://terrafirma.terra.mud.org Why search for life when you can create it? http://www.dalilab.com . . . . . . . . . . . |
From: Dirk M. <dmo...@gm...> - 2000-10-27 10:04:41
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> Clipper also needs to be migrated =) Andre Kaplan did this. Clipper-0.8 will be released soon. Btw.: Isn't Clipper obsolete? |
From: Slava P. <sp...@gj...> - 2000-10-28 00:26:22
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Dirk Moebius wrote: > Btw.: Isn't Clipper obsolete? Why? Slava |
From: Dirk M. <dmo...@gm...> - 2000-10-29 08:45:12
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From: "Slava Pestov" <sp...@gj...> > Dirk Moebius wrote: > > Btw.: Isn't Clipper obsolete? > Why? I thought it's being replaced by abbrevs. O.k., I confess, I never used Clipper... :-} Dirk. |