[Emutos-devel] Re: Emutos-devel digest, Vol 1 #493 - 2 msgs

[Gabriel H. <gab...@te...>]

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> V Ne, 16. 11. 2003 v 20:51, Gabriel Huertas p=3DED=3DB9e:
> > As I can see, at the end, we are going to need a different version o=
f
> > Emutos for every system, STonX, ARanym or Real ST
> 
> Really? That would be sad. What is so different between say ARAnyM and
> real computer?
> 
> Petr
> 
> 


Well, at first, as I can see, no one I know really know how the Spanish
TOS works, but it make some strange things with the keyboard issues.
Steem, a very accurate low level emulator, had to hack this in a dirty
way (The spanish shift and alt correction are not low level compatible).

The Scancodes generated for Aranym, Steem, STonX, MagiC, Pacifist,
Gemulator ... are always differents, and with missing keys. Steem solves
it with a keymap utility. TosBox is the only one "almost perfect" but
still with  some problems.

If you compare them with real ST machines running a Spanish TOS, they
show that the keys do not match.

But there are still another big problem:

The original ST Spanish char is not really compatible with Spanish, it's
more or less like an old an obsolete typewriter machine one. Atari
Clones and also original TT and F30 were forced to use an interface
plugged to the keyboard port, with a Microcontroller and a rom replacing
the original IKBD, and having full access to the standard (like PC)
Spanish keyboard. And still with some problems, the charset can't
produce =C1 =CD =D3  and another problem with apostrophe and the dead ac=
cent ,
interpreted as the same, but in the real Spanish Set, you have to keys ,
one dead and another normal.

SO if we want the emulators working in spanish we have to deal with:

1. The keymap between the emulatiors and a real ST do not match
2. The keymap between emulators do not match
3. The exact match between emulators and original STs is anyway not
desirable (almost all symbols would be misplaced)
3. The modern EmuTOS should work in a way fully compatible with our
language, for all these we  prefer to add the iso latin charset, a new
font set, and to remap the keyboard to the same functionallity of a PC
standard one.

I have had some web pages showing screenshots of Spanish standard qwerty
keyboard interfaced to ataries and comparing them with the original US
and ES Atari keyboards, they are dowm, but I can look for a copy for
sending to you, if you want. 

The strange thing is  that all PC Keyboards I know, works well if you
configure your computer as Spanish (only labels are wrong but the keys
produce what they must produce). With all ST the same, you put the
sapnish TOS, and the keyboard works as a Spanish ST, but with emulators,
if you have a correct US versi=F3n working, it always fail when you chan=
ge
to a Spanish version of TOS.


Including the use of your great clocky, not all issues of a desirable
Spanish Keyboard can be solved, for example, the alt + dead, we need to
use the original TOS patch acentos.prg ina auto folder, and remove your
dead key suport, but then, again we have no difference between
apostrophe and accent, as I told before.


Regards.







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