Re[2]: [Docutils-users] citation enhancement?

[Alan G I. <ai...@am...>]

>Alan wrote:
>> 1. Do not restrict the character set quite so much for=20
>> reference names.  In particular, allow isolated hyphens,=20

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005, David Goodger apparently wrote:=20
> Isolated internal hyphens, underscores, and periods are=20
> already allowed.

Right.  Sorry that crept into the list.  The additions=20
requested are isolated parentheses, colons, and nonbreaking=20
space. And perhaps plusses.



>Alan wrote:
>> 2. Allow suppressing the brackets on the inline reference=20
>>    names.=20

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005, David Goodger apparently wrote:=20
> You mean for the output?=20

Yes.  Like with footnotes.




On Mon, 03 Oct 2005, David Goodger apparently wrote:=20
> What do you mean by "end-of-line citation references"? =20

I mean what the Chicago Manual of Style calls an In-Text style.

In my field (economics), we might say:
Goodger=C2=A0(2005) asserts ...
(^ within-sentence style)
Or we might say:
Experts assert it (Goodger 2005).
(end-of-sentence style ^)



On Mon, 03 Oct 2005, David Goodger apparently wrote:=20
> What is the standard you're using?  Do you have a reference URL?=20

The end-of-sentence style is a standard Chicago style:
http://library.osu.edu/sites/guides/chicagogd.html
The within-sentence style is also quite standard, and=20
I think it too is a Chicago style, but I cannot find a URL.


>Alan wrote:
>> I would like to be able to write::=20
>>         reference                     HTML format=20
>>         [t:Isaac2005,p.121]   ->      Isaac (2005,p.121)=20
>>         [p:Isaac2005,p.121]   ->      (Isaac 2005,p.121)=20
>> and have the two citation references both point to=20
>> .. [Isaac2005] The citation text.=20

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005, David Goodger apparently wrote:=20
> Now we're getting into the realm of parameterized interpreted text:=20
> http://docutils.sf.net/docs/dev/rst/alternatives.html#parameterized-inter=
preted-text=20
> This is an unresolved area.  Don't hold your breath ;-)=20

OK. =20

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005, David Goodger apparently wrote:=20
> What do the "p" & "t" signify?=20

Cite as *t*ext; cite in *p*arentheses.
Taken from the natbib standard: \citep and \citet.




>Alan wrote:
>> - concluding digits specify a date=20
>> - a comma separates off supplementary citation information=20

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005, David Goodger apparently wrote:=20
> IOW, text after the comma isn't significant?  It isn't functional, but=20
> just for show?=20

Well the is is not linkable, but it is informative.
Usually it is a specific page reference, as opposed
to the page range given in the citation text.
This is in very wide use: see the Chicago Manual of Style
http://library.osu.edu/sites/guides/chicagogd.html

Thnaks for your other suggestions.
I'll try them out.

Cheers,
Alan=20=0D