Thread: [Audacity-devel] Play button now stays down until finished playing.
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From: James C. <cr...@in...> - 2013-07-26 14:46:56
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With attention on the play button I noticed that it does not stay down whilst audio is playing, unlike record button. Seems wrong to me, but it's been this way for a long time. I changed it so it does stay down now, r12443. Asking here though, just in case most people think the old behaviour was better?? --James. ** |
From: Steve t. F. <ste...@gm...> - 2013-07-26 15:42:55
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On 26 July 2013 15:46, James Crook <cr...@in...> wrote: > With attention on the play button I noticed that it does not stay down > whilst audio is playing, unlike record button. Seems wrong to me, but it's > been this way for a long time. > > I changed it so it does stay down now, r12443. Asking here though, just in > case most people think the old behaviour was better?? > My first impression, (I've not tested thoroughly) is that I prefer the new behaviour. Steve > > --James. > ** > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics > Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics > Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. > Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > audacity-devel mailing list > aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel > > |
From: Gale A. <ga...@au...> - 2013-07-26 17:09:22
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| From Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...> | Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:42:47 +0100 | Subject: [Audacity-devel] Play button now stays down until finished playing. > On 26 July 2013 15:46, James Crook <cr...@in...> wrote: > > > With attention on the play button I noticed that it does not stay down > > whilst audio is playing, unlike record button. Seems wrong to me, but it's > > been this way for a long time. > > > > I changed it so it does stay down now, r12443. Asking here though, just in > > case most people think the old behaviour was better?? > > > > My first impression, (I've not tested thoroughly) is that I prefer the new > behaviour. I think there is a disbenefit in that it's less discoverable that you can click Play when already playing to restart playback from the cursor. That still works fine, but I'd never guess you could do it given the button is down. Gale |
From: Martyn S. <mar...@gm...> - 2013-07-28 23:41:46
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On 26/07/2013 18:09, Gale Andrews wrote: > > | From Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...> > | Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:42:47 +0100 > | Subject: [Audacity-devel] Play button now stays down until finished playing. >> On 26 July 2013 15:46, James Crook <cr...@in...> wrote: >> >>> With attention on the play button I noticed that it does not stay down >>> whilst audio is playing, unlike record button. Seems wrong to me, but it's >>> been this way for a long time. >>> >>> I changed it so it does stay down now, r12443. Asking here though, just in >>> case most people think the old behaviour was better?? >>> >> >> My first impression, (I've not tested thoroughly) is that I prefer the new >> behaviour. > > I think there is a disbenefit in that it's less discoverable that you > can click Play when already playing to restart playback from the > cursor. > > That still works fine, but I'd never guess you could do it given the > button is down. I'm with Gale here, please revert. Thanks Martyn > Gale > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics > Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics > Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. > Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > audacity-devel mailing list > aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel > |
From: Steve t. F. <ste...@gm...> - 2013-07-29 14:37:23
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On 29 July 2013 00:41, Martyn Shaw <mar...@gm...> wrote: > > > On 26/07/2013 18:09, Gale Andrews wrote: >> >> | From Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...> >> | Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:42:47 +0100 >> | Subject: [Audacity-devel] Play button now stays down until finished playing. >>> On 26 July 2013 15:46, James Crook <cr...@in...> wrote: >>> >>>> With attention on the play button I noticed that it does not stay down >>>> whilst audio is playing, unlike record button. Seems wrong to me, but it's >>>> been this way for a long time. >>>> >>>> I changed it so it does stay down now, r12443. Asking here though, just in >>>> case most people think the old behaviour was better?? >>>> >>> >>> My first impression, (I've not tested thoroughly) is that I prefer the new >>> behaviour. >> >> I think there is a disbenefit in that it's less discoverable that you >> can click Play when already playing to restart playback from the >> cursor. >> >> That still works fine, but I'd never guess you could do it given the >> button is down. > > I'm with Gale here, please revert. I prefer the look of the Play button staying down, but I agree with Gale and Martyn that a "non latching" Play button makes it more discoverable that the button can be pressed again to restart playback, so I agree that the old behaviour is preferable. +1 to revert. Steve > > Thanks > Martyn > >> Gale >> |
From: Vaughan J. <va...@au...> - 2013-07-29 18:24:47
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On 7/29/2013 7:37 AM, Steve the Fiddle wrote: > On 29 July 2013 00:41, Martyn Shaw <mar...@gm...> wrote: >> >> >> On 26/07/2013 18:09, Gale Andrews wrote: >>> >>> | From Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...> >>> | Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:42:47 +0100 >>> | Subject: [Audacity-devel] Play button now stays down until finished playing. >>>> On 26 July 2013 15:46, James Crook <cr...@in...> wrote: >>>> >>>>> With attention on the play button I noticed that it does not stay down >>>>> whilst audio is playing, unlike record button. Seems wrong to me, but it's >>>>> been this way for a long time. >>>>> >>>>> I changed it so it does stay down now, r12443. Asking here though, just in >>>>> case most people think the old behaviour was better?? >>>>> >>>> >>>> My first impression, (I've not tested thoroughly) is that I prefer the new >>>> behaviour. >>> >>> I think there is a disbenefit in that it's less discoverable that you >>> can click Play when already playing to restart playback from the >>> cursor. >>> >>> That still works fine, but I'd never guess you could do it given the >>> button is down. >> >> I'm with Gale here, please revert. > > I prefer the look of the Play button staying down, but I agree with > Gale and Martyn that a "non latching" Play button makes it more > discoverable that the button can be pressed again to restart playback, > so I agree that the old behaviour is preferable. +1 to revert. Likewise, +1 to revert. - V |
From: Brett S. <br...@mi...> - 2013-07-29 16:13:25
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Has anyone considered the discrepancy of when the play button actually does stay down? For instance not staying down when play is started by mouse click, but it stays down when I use the space bar to start playing. If you use the space bar to start, the play button stays depressed, but you can use a mouse click to start again from the selected position. This also sounds counter intuitive, and makes the feature less obvious. Perhaps a different design should be considered to show that clicking the play button to start over is an option. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...>wrote: > On 29 July 2013 00:41, Martyn Shaw <mar...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > On 26/07/2013 18:09, Gale Andrews wrote: > >> > >> | From Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...> > >> | Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:42:47 +0100 > >> | Subject: [Audacity-devel] Play button now stays down until finished > playing. > >>> On 26 July 2013 15:46, James Crook <cr...@in...> wrote: > >>> > >>>> With attention on the play button I noticed that it does not stay > down > >>>> whilst audio is playing, unlike record button. Seems wrong to me, > but it's > >>>> been this way for a long time. > >>>> > >>>> I changed it so it does stay down now, r12443. Asking here though, > just in > >>>> case most people think the old behaviour was better?? > >>>> > >>> > >>> My first impression, (I've not tested thoroughly) is that I prefer the > new > >>> behaviour. > >> > >> I think there is a disbenefit in that it's less discoverable that you > >> can click Play when already playing to restart playback from the > >> cursor. > >> > >> That still works fine, but I'd never guess you could do it given the > >> button is down. > > > > I'm with Gale here, please revert. > > I prefer the look of the Play button staying down, but I agree with > Gale and Martyn that a "non latching" Play button makes it more > discoverable that the button can be pressed again to restart playback, > so I agree that the old behaviour is preferable. +1 to revert. > > Steve > > > > > Thanks > > Martyn > > > >> Gale > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics > Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics > Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. > Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > audacity-devel mailing list > aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel > |
From: Martyn S. <mar...@gm...> - 2013-07-31 23:57:53
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On 29/07/2013 17:12, Brett Stauner wrote: > Has anyone considered the discrepancy of when the play button actually > does stay down? > > For instance not staying down when play is started by mouse click, but > it stays down when I use the space bar to start playing. If you use > the space bar to start, the play button stays depressed, but you can > use a mouse click to start again from the selected position. This > also sounds counter intuitive, and makes the feature less obvious. > Perhaps a different design should be considered to show that > clicking the play button to start over is an option. If I recall correctly, James is currently doing a re-think/design of 'Themes', and that would be relevant there? TTFN Martyn > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Steve the Fiddle > <ste...@gm... <mailto:ste...@gm...>> wrote: > > On 29 July 2013 00:41, Martyn Shaw <mar...@gm... > <mailto:mar...@gm...>> wrote: > > > > > > On 26/07/2013 18:09, Gale Andrews wrote: > >> > >> | From Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm... > <mailto:ste...@gm...>> > >> | Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:42:47 +0100 > >> | Subject: [Audacity-devel] Play button now stays down until > finished playing. > >>> On 26 July 2013 15:46, James Crook <cr...@in... > <mailto:cr...@in...>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> With attention on the play button I noticed that it does > not stay down > >>>> whilst audio is playing, unlike record button. Seems wrong > to me, but it's > >>>> been this way for a long time. > >>>> > >>>> I changed it so it does stay down now, r12443. Asking here > though, just in > >>>> case most people think the old behaviour was better?? > >>>> > >>> > >>> My first impression, (I've not tested thoroughly) is that I > prefer the new > >>> behaviour. > >> > >> I think there is a disbenefit in that it's less discoverable > that you > >> can click Play when already playing to restart playback from the > >> cursor. > >> > >> That still works fine, but I'd never guess you could do it > given the > >> button is down. > > > > I'm with Gale here, please revert. > > I prefer the look of the Play button staying down, but I agree with > Gale and Martyn that a "non latching" Play button makes it more > discoverable that the button can be pressed again to restart playback, > so I agree that the old behaviour is preferable. +1 to revert. > > Steve > > > > > Thanks > > Martyn > > > >> Gale > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics > Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics > Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. > Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > audacity-devel mailing list > aud...@li... > <mailto:aud...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics > Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics > Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. > Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > _______________________________________________ > audacity-devel mailing list > aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel > |
From: Steve t. F. <ste...@gm...> - 2013-07-29 16:42:53
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On 29 July 2013 17:12, Brett Stauner <br...@mi...> wrote: > Has anyone considered the discrepancy of when the play button actually does > stay down? > > For instance not staying down when play is started by mouse click, but it > stays down when I use the space bar to start playing. I think that the button staying down is correct in this case because the spacebar is toggling Play and Stop. I suppose that strictly speaking, if a user sets two different keyboard shortcuts for Play and Stop, then the behaviour should perhaps be the same as clicking on the buttons, but that is really only going to affect more experienced users, and there have been no complaints or feature requests for that as far as I'm aware. Steve > If you use the space > bar to start, the play button stays depressed, but you can use a mouse click > to start again from the selected position. This also sounds counter > intuitive, and makes the feature less obvious. Perhaps a different design > should be considered to show that clicking the play button to start over is > an option. > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...> > wrote: >> >> On 29 July 2013 00:41, Martyn Shaw <mar...@gm...> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On 26/07/2013 18:09, Gale Andrews wrote: >> >> >> >> | From Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...> >> >> | Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:42:47 +0100 >> >> | Subject: [Audacity-devel] Play button now stays down until finished >> >> playing. >> >>> On 26 July 2013 15:46, James Crook <cr...@in...> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> With attention on the play button I noticed that it does not stay >> >>>> down >> >>>> whilst audio is playing, unlike record button. Seems wrong to me, >> >>>> but it's >> >>>> been this way for a long time. >> >>>> >> >>>> I changed it so it does stay down now, r12443. Asking here though, >> >>>> just in >> >>>> case most people think the old behaviour was better?? >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> My first impression, (I've not tested thoroughly) is that I prefer the >> >>> new >> >>> behaviour. >> >> >> >> I think there is a disbenefit in that it's less discoverable that you >> >> can click Play when already playing to restart playback from the >> >> cursor. >> >> >> >> That still works fine, but I'd never guess you could do it given the >> >> button is down. >> > >> > I'm with Gale here, please revert. >> >> I prefer the look of the Play button staying down, but I agree with >> Gale and Martyn that a "non latching" Play button makes it more >> discoverable that the button can be pressed again to restart playback, >> so I agree that the old behaviour is preferable. +1 to revert. >> >> Steve >> >> > >> > Thanks >> > Martyn >> > >> >> Gale >> >> >> |
From: Brett S. <br...@mi...> - 2013-07-29 16:47:00
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Sounds good, I just wanted to be sure that had been considered. Have a great day! On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm... > wrote: > On 29 July 2013 17:12, Brett Stauner <br...@mi...> wrote: > > Has anyone considered the discrepancy of when the play button actually > does > > stay down? > > > > For instance not staying down when play is started by mouse click, but it > > stays down when I use the space bar to start playing. > > I think that the button staying down is correct in this case because > the spacebar is toggling Play and Stop. > > I suppose that strictly speaking, if a user sets two different > keyboard shortcuts for Play and Stop, then the behaviour should > perhaps be the same as clicking on the buttons, but that is really > only going to affect more experienced users, and there have been no > complaints or feature requests for that as far as I'm aware. > > Steve > > > > If you use the space > > bar to start, the play button stays depressed, but you can use a mouse > click > > to start again from the selected position. This also sounds counter > > intuitive, and makes the feature less obvious. Perhaps a different > design > > should be considered to show that clicking the play button to start over > is > > an option. > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Steve the Fiddle < > ste...@gm...> > > wrote: > >> > >> On 29 July 2013 00:41, Martyn Shaw <mar...@gm...> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > On 26/07/2013 18:09, Gale Andrews wrote: > >> >> > >> >> | From Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...> > >> >> | Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:42:47 +0100 > >> >> | Subject: [Audacity-devel] Play button now stays down until finished > >> >> playing. > >> >>> On 26 July 2013 15:46, James Crook <cr...@in...> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> With attention on the play button I noticed that it does not stay > >> >>>> down > >> >>>> whilst audio is playing, unlike record button. Seems wrong to me, > >> >>>> but it's > >> >>>> been this way for a long time. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I changed it so it does stay down now, r12443. Asking here though, > >> >>>> just in > >> >>>> case most people think the old behaviour was better?? > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> My first impression, (I've not tested thoroughly) is that I prefer > the > >> >>> new > >> >>> behaviour. > >> >> > >> >> I think there is a disbenefit in that it's less discoverable that you > >> >> can click Play when already playing to restart playback from the > >> >> cursor. > >> >> > >> >> That still works fine, but I'd never guess you could do it given the > >> >> button is down. > >> > > >> > I'm with Gale here, please revert. > >> > >> I prefer the look of the Play button staying down, but I agree with > >> Gale and Martyn that a "non latching" Play button makes it more > >> discoverable that the button can be pressed again to restart playback, > >> so I agree that the old behaviour is preferable. +1 to revert. > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > Martyn > >> > > >> >> Gale > >> >> > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your SQL database under version control now! > Version control is standard for application code, but databases havent > caught up. So what steps can you take to put your SQL databases under > version control? Why should you start doing it? Read more to find out. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=49501711&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > audacity-devel mailing list > aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel > |
From: Martyn S. <mar...@gm...> - 2013-08-01 00:03:59
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Hi James On 26/07/2013 15:46, James Crook wrote: > With attention on the play button I noticed that it does not stay down > whilst audio is playing, unlike record button. Seems wrong to me, but > it's been this way for a long time. > > I changed it so it does stay down now, r12443. Asking here though, > just in case most people think the old behaviour was better?? Everybody responding here appears to be asking you to revert that change (me, Gale, Steve, Vaughan). Are you there to do it? TTFN Martyn > --James. > ** > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics > Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics > Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. > Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > _______________________________________________ > audacity-devel mailing list > aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel > |