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From: Sascha H. <sa...@xm...> - 2009-10-09 12:29:42
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Thank you for your input/ I think the documentation page is the right place to put it, however we are currently planning a remake of the documentations page, to page things easier to find. // Sascha On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Gergely Kis <ger...@ma...>wrote: > Hi, > > I am not a lawyer (only my wife is). However, I think that you need some > kind of legal entity called XMLVM so that the copyright laws can work. It > may also depend on the country as well, but I think that forming some kind > of legal entity is the right way to go. > > One possibility to avoid that is to use an already existing umbrella > organization like Apache Foundation or the Software Freedom Law Center ( > http://www.softwarefreedom.org/services/) > However, this method would probably have an impact on the potential future > commercialization of the project. > > Best Regards, > Gergely > > 2009/10/7 Sascha Haeberling <sa...@xm...> > > This is actually a good point Gergely, thanks for mentioning it. So far we >> thought, if we write (C) XMLVM and then mention in a COPYING or LICENSE file >> who the people are that "own" XMLVM that should be enough. But I might be >> wrong and would like to figure this out. Do you think the only way to do >> this properly is to create a legal entity (like a company)? >> Maybe you have some pointers for us, that would be great. >> >> Thanks >> // Sascha >> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Gergely Kis <ger...@ma...>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> 2009/10/7 Gergely Kis <ger...@ma...> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have a few thoughts (not terribly organized): >>>> - it would be nice to have a commercial entity who owns the code >>>> legally. Right now the CLAs have to be addressed to you (Arno Puder) >>>> personally. This could be a problem for potential contributor businesses. >>>> >>> Ok, I was wrong here. It just needs to be sent to your address, but >>> addressed to XMLVM, which is not a legal entity as far as I know. So I think >>> my point is still valid. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Gergely >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA >>> is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your >>> developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay >>> ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xmlvm-users mailing list >>> xml...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >>> >>> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > |
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From: Gergely K. <ger...@ma...> - 2009-10-09 10:26:15
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Hi, I am not a lawyer (only my wife is). However, I think that you need some kind of legal entity called XMLVM so that the copyright laws can work. It may also depend on the country as well, but I think that forming some kind of legal entity is the right way to go. One possibility to avoid that is to use an already existing umbrella organization like Apache Foundation or the Software Freedom Law Center ( http://www.softwarefreedom.org/services/) However, this method would probably have an impact on the potential future commercialization of the project. Best Regards, Gergely 2009/10/7 Sascha Haeberling <sa...@xm...> > This is actually a good point Gergely, thanks for mentioning it. So far we > thought, if we write (C) XMLVM and then mention in a COPYING or LICENSE file > who the people are that "own" XMLVM that should be enough. But I might be > wrong and would like to figure this out. Do you think the only way to do > this properly is to create a legal entity (like a company)? > Maybe you have some pointers for us, that would be great. > > Thanks > // Sascha > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Gergely Kis <ger...@ma...>wrote: > >> >> >> 2009/10/7 Gergely Kis <ger...@ma...> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have a few thoughts (not terribly organized): >>> - it would be nice to have a commercial entity who owns the code legally. >>> Right now the CLAs have to be addressed to you (Arno Puder) personally. This >>> could be a problem for potential contributor businesses. >>> >> Ok, I was wrong here. It just needs to be sent to your address, but >> addressed to XMLVM, which is not a legal entity as far as I know. So I think >> my point is still valid. >> >> Best Regards, >> Gergely >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA >> is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your >> developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay >> ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference >> _______________________________________________ >> xmlvm-users mailing list >> xml...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >> >> > |
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From: Gergely K. <ger...@ma...> - 2009-10-09 09:56:45
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Hi, It would be nice to have this page linked in the top level menu, and not just under the Documentation. Best Regards, Gergely 2009/10/9 Sascha Haeberling <sa...@xm...> > Please read our website carefully, we have the process described there in > detail: > http://xmlvm.org/contribute/ > > // Sascha > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Inderjeet Singh <ind...@gm...>wrote: > >> Can the XMLVM team propose a process to submit patches without us sending >> them to the entire list? For example, we could open a bug and submit it that >> way, or mail them to a special alias. >> Thanks >> Inder >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Panayotis Katsaloulis < >> pan...@pa...> wrote: >> >>> this is for the android2iphone target. >>> >>> In order to be properly patched, the previous 2 patches should be >>> present. >>> >>> You might also need to do something like -p1 in the patch command >>> >>> I'd be happy to discuss these patches and tell me what you think! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA >>> is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your >>> developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay >>> ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xmlvm-users mailing list >>> xml...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA >> is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your >> developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay >> ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference >> _______________________________________________ >> xmlvm-users mailing list >> xml...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > |
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From: Sascha H. <sa...@xm...> - 2009-10-09 09:05:40
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Please read our website carefully, we have the process described there in detail: http://xmlvm.org/contribute/ // Sascha On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Inderjeet Singh <ind...@gm...> wrote: > Can the XMLVM team propose a process to submit patches without us sending > them to the entire list? For example, we could open a bug and submit it that > way, or mail them to a special alias. > Thanks > Inder > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Panayotis Katsaloulis < > pan...@pa...> wrote: > >> this is for the android2iphone target. >> >> In order to be properly patched, the previous 2 patches should be present. >> >> You might also need to do something like -p1 in the patch command >> >> I'd be happy to discuss these patches and tell me what you think! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA >> is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your >> developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay >> ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference >> _______________________________________________ >> xmlvm-users mailing list >> xml...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > |
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From: Arno P. <ar...@pu...> - 2009-10-09 04:07:49
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Panayotis, thanks for your patches. I have committed all three patches you've sent. I made some minor changes. First of all the directories are now called src/lib/iphone, src/lib/android, and src/app. I also had to do some other cleanup to make Xokoban compile again. Now I'm looking forward to your XCode project patch. That would be really nice. :-) Arno Panayotis Katsaloulis wrote: > this is for the android2iphone target. > > In order to be properly patched, the previous 2 patches should be present. > > You might also need to do something like -p1 in the patch command > > I'd be happy to discuss these patches and tell me what you think! > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users |
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From: Wolfgang K. <wol...@xm...> - 2009-10-08 16:25:39
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All files implementing the ObjectiveC-to-Java wrappers are located in the src/xmlvm2objc/compat-lib/objc folder. There are two files you need to implement these functions: java_lang_Math.h and java_lang_Math.m. Looking at the files' content you will note that all implemented methode follow our name mangling convention used as a workaround for the missing overloading in ObjectiveC. To implement the missing functions you also have to follow this convention. -- Wolfgang Joseph Rukshan Fonseka wrote: > Ok I tried to convert an android application to iphone and noticed > quite a few of the Maths functions don't compile such as > > Math.max() > Math.min() > Math.pow() > > I am guessing they aren't supported yet? I would like to extend the > Maths library to have these functions. Which file should I be looking > at to add these? > > Regards, > Rukshan Fonseka. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > |
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From: Joseph R. F. <ruk...@op...> - 2009-10-08 15:48:44
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Ok I tried to convert an android application to iphone and noticed quite a few of the Maths functions don't compile such as Math.max() Math.min() Math.pow() I am guessing they aren't supported yet? I would like to extend the Maths library to have these functions. Which file should I be looking at to add these? Regards, Rukshan Fonseka. |
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From: Wolfgang K. <wol...@xm...> - 2009-10-08 15:36:13
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The process how to properly submit a patch is described on the XMLVM site at http://xmlvm.org/contribute/ . Basically we use a code review portal at http://xmlvm-reviews.appspot.com/ to accept and review patches. And indeed - I also prefer to have the patches submitted there instead of being posted to the list. After merging a patch to the XMLVM HEAD a notification on the list about it would be a good thing anyway. -- Wolfgang Inderjeet Singh wrote: > Can the XMLVM team propose a process to submit patches without us > sending them to the entire list? For example, we could open a bug and > submit it that way, or mail them to a special alias. > > Thanks > Inder > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Panayotis Katsaloulis > <pan...@pa... <mailto:pan...@pa...>> wrote: > > this is for the android2iphone target. > > In order to be properly patched, the previous 2 patches should be > present. > > You might also need to do something like -p1 in the patch command > > I'd be happy to discuss these patches and tell me what you think! > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. > Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market > and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > <mailto:xml...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > |
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From: Inderjeet S. <ind...@gm...> - 2009-10-08 15:24:27
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Can the XMLVM team propose a process to submit patches without us sending them to the entire list? For example, we could open a bug and submit it that way, or mail them to a special alias. Thanks Inder On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Panayotis Katsaloulis < pan...@pa...> wrote: > this is for the android2iphone target. > > In order to be properly patched, the previous 2 patches should be present. > > You might also need to do something like -p1 in the patch command > > I'd be happy to discuss these patches and tell me what you think! > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > |
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From: Arno P. <ar...@pu...> - 2009-10-08 14:36:47
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Panayotis Katsaloulis wrote: > I am planning soon to give a patch which will create along with the > Makefile, a Xcode project file, for easier import of the project to > Xcode, thus I needed to make things more clear and more organized. uhh! That would be very nice! Arno |
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From: Panayotis K. <pan...@pa...> - 2009-10-08 14:14:08
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this is for the android2iphone target. In order to be properly patched, the previous 2 patches should be present. You might also need to do something like -p1 in the patch command I'd be happy to discuss these patches and tell me what you think! |
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From: Panayotis K. <pan...@pa...> - 2009-10-08 13:44:05
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I created this patch, so that all files will not be in the same directory, which makes things difficult to understand what is happening. I am planning soon to give a patch which will create along with the Makefile, a Xcode project file, for easier import of the project to Xcode, thus I needed to make things more clear and more organized. |
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From: Panayotis K. <pan...@pa...> - 2009-10-08 12:31:14
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Hello, here is a tiny patch which will fix some issues with build dependency in ant script, mostly for the cc-* targets. |
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From: Wolfgang K. <wol...@xm...> - 2009-10-08 12:17:30
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I just set up a test project and tried your code. As Arno pointed out you
need AndroidManifest.xml and cat.png in directory where the makefile is
stored. Additionally note that we currently only support png images
resources.
While trying you sample code I also noticed a small bug in XMLVM for which I
submitted a patch to our SVN. So please update to the HEAD and try again.
-- Wolfgang
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Arno Puder <ar...@pu...> wrote:
>
> did you import cat.png and AndroidManifest.xml to the XCode project (or
> copy those to files to the directory where Makefile is generated in case
> you are using the Makefile)?
>
> Arno
>
>
> Joseph Rukshan Fonseka wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was trying to play with xmlvm and see it working porting an android
> > app to iphone.
> >
> > I wrote this simple android app which runs ok in the android emulator.
> >
> > package com.home.imageviewer;
> >
> > import android.app.Activity;
> > import android.os.Bundle;
> > import android.view.View;
> > import android.view.ViewGroup.LayoutParams;
> > import android.widget.AbsoluteLayout;
> > import android.widget.ImageView;
> > import android.widget.LinearLayout;
> >
> > public class ImageViewer extends Activity {
> > /** Called when the activity is first created. */
> > @SuppressWarnings("deprecation")
> > @Override
> > public void onCreate(Bundle savedInstanceState) {
> > super.onCreate(savedInstanceState);
> >
> >
> >
> > AbsoluteLayout layout = new AbsoluteLayout(this);
> > layout.setLayoutParams(new
> > LayoutParams(LayoutParams.FILL_PARENT, LayoutParams.FILL_PARENT));
> > ImageView viewer = new ImageView(this);
> > viewer.setImageResource(R.drawable.cat);
> > layout.addView(viewer, new
> > AbsoluteLayout.LayoutParams(AbsoluteLayout.LayoutParams.WRAP_CONTENT,
> > AbsoluteLayout.LayoutParams.WRAP_CONTENT, 0, 60));
> > setContentView(layout);
> > }
> > }
> >
> > I think cross compiled it using xmlvm with android-on-iphone option
> > following the instructions in manual.pdf. Also I think there should be
> > some instructions for the newbies on how to add iphone frameworks to the
> > project and also which ones are needed. As I had to spend some time to
> > figure this out myself as it wasn't in the manual.pdf when following the
> > steps.
> >
> > It successfully create iphone files. Well no errors were reported.
> >
> > I then ran make in this directory which compiled the iphone files and
> > launched the iphone simulator.
> >
> > However when I run my application, it opens up a black window and then
> > automatically shuts down.
> >
> > I ran it via xcode and this is what I get in the IDE
> >
> > *2009-10-08 09:43:21.988 test[6829:207] *** Terminating app due to
> > uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '***
> > -[NSPlaceholderMutableString initWithString:]: nil argument'*
> > *2009-10-08 09:43:21.990 test[6829:207] Stack: (*
> > * 36152411,*
> > * 2438119241,*
> > * 36236347,*
> > * 36236186,*
> > * 588736,*
> > * 145543,*
> > * 42424,*
> > * 41261,*
> > * 41810,*
> > * 9058*
> > *)*
> > *(gdb) *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *Any ideas? I was careful to write an app using only the features I was
> > confident were supported by the android compat library. *
> > *
> > *
> > *Regards,*
> > *Rukshan Fonseka.*
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA
> > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
> > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
> > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now!
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > xmlvm-users mailing list
> > xml...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA
> is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
> developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
> ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now!
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference
> _______________________________________________
> xmlvm-users mailing list
> xml...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users
>
|
|
From: Arno P. <ar...@pu...> - 2009-10-08 09:27:46
|
did you import cat.png and AndroidManifest.xml to the XCode project (or
copy those to files to the directory where Makefile is generated in case
you are using the Makefile)?
Arno
Joseph Rukshan Fonseka wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was trying to play with xmlvm and see it working porting an android
> app to iphone.
>
> I wrote this simple android app which runs ok in the android emulator.
>
> package com.home.imageviewer;
>
> import android.app.Activity;
> import android.os.Bundle;
> import android.view.View;
> import android.view.ViewGroup.LayoutParams;
> import android.widget.AbsoluteLayout;
> import android.widget.ImageView;
> import android.widget.LinearLayout;
>
> public class ImageViewer extends Activity {
> /** Called when the activity is first created. */
> @SuppressWarnings("deprecation")
> @Override
> public void onCreate(Bundle savedInstanceState) {
> super.onCreate(savedInstanceState);
>
>
>
> AbsoluteLayout layout = new AbsoluteLayout(this);
> layout.setLayoutParams(new
> LayoutParams(LayoutParams.FILL_PARENT, LayoutParams.FILL_PARENT));
> ImageView viewer = new ImageView(this);
> viewer.setImageResource(R.drawable.cat);
> layout.addView(viewer, new
> AbsoluteLayout.LayoutParams(AbsoluteLayout.LayoutParams.WRAP_CONTENT,
> AbsoluteLayout.LayoutParams.WRAP_CONTENT, 0, 60));
> setContentView(layout);
> }
> }
>
> I think cross compiled it using xmlvm with android-on-iphone option
> following the instructions in manual.pdf. Also I think there should be
> some instructions for the newbies on how to add iphone frameworks to the
> project and also which ones are needed. As I had to spend some time to
> figure this out myself as it wasn't in the manual.pdf when following the
> steps.
>
> It successfully create iphone files. Well no errors were reported.
>
> I then ran make in this directory which compiled the iphone files and
> launched the iphone simulator.
>
> However when I run my application, it opens up a black window and then
> automatically shuts down.
>
> I ran it via xcode and this is what I get in the IDE
>
> *2009-10-08 09:43:21.988 test[6829:207] *** Terminating app due to
> uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '***
> -[NSPlaceholderMutableString initWithString:]: nil argument'*
> *2009-10-08 09:43:21.990 test[6829:207] Stack: (*
> * 36152411,*
> * 2438119241,*
> * 36236347,*
> * 36236186,*
> * 588736,*
> * 145543,*
> * 42424,*
> * 41261,*
> * 41810,*
> * 9058*
> *)*
> *(gdb) *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *Any ideas? I was careful to write an app using only the features I was
> confident were supported by the android compat library. *
> *
> *
> *Regards,*
> *Rukshan Fonseka.*
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA
> is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
> developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
> ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now!
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> xmlvm-users mailing list
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From: Arno P. <ar...@pu...> - 2009-10-08 08:50:31
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yes, we do. We only accept a patch if the developer has signed a so-called Contributor License Agreement (CLA): http://www.xmlvm.org/contribute/cla.php Note that the text of our CLA is a verbatim copy of Apache's CLA. Many other Open Source projects use the same CLA, so no surprises here. Arno Inderjeet Singh wrote: > Hi Arno, > > I hope the XMLVM team is maintaining copyrights appropriately to > preserve their ability to grant linking exception or offer XMLVM under > dual license. When you are accepting external contributions, are you > asking them to assign copyrights to you as well (A fairly standard > practice with company sponsored open-source projects). > > Inder > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Gergely Kis <ger...@ma... > <mailto:ger...@ma...>> wrote: > > Hi, > > 2009/10/7 Arno Puder <ar...@pu... <mailto:ar...@pu...>> > > > well, Bjoern, as a quick note to your comment: you can never prevent > someone making money with your contribution to an Open Source > project. > This is nothing unique to a dual licensing strategy. Redhat > makes a lot > of money using other's peoples work. Of course they provide a > service on > top of the packaging. That would be the same for us. I don't think > anyone would just give money to the core team without asking for > something in return (and by that I mean more than the linking > exception). By giving you a linking exception for your > contribution, you > would be given the same chance of using XMLVM for your > commercial ventures. > > With one important difference: they only have the source under the > GPL with linking exception. And from the earlier discussion it seems > that the linking exception is not transferrable to others. > (Transferrability would effectively defeat its purpose.) > > At the same time the XMLVM team is able to relicense the whole > package under a commercial license. > > I am not saying that this is a problem, it is simply a property of a > GPL/commercial project. > > Best Regards, > Gergely > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and > stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > <mailto:xml...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users |
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From: Arno P. <ar...@pu...> - 2009-10-08 08:41:50
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Guys: we really want XMLVM to succeed so we will do our best to bring clarity to this issue. We will not do anything where we sense strong opposition from the community. I'm sure there is a middle ground. I'm currently in a different time zone than the rest of the core team but we'll put this on the top of our to-do list. Arno Jacob Nordfalk wrote: > > > 2009/10/7 Gergely Kis <ger...@ma... > <mailto:ger...@ma...>> > > > - It would be nice to have a commercial license for those who don't > want or just can't contribute (e.g. no resources...etc.) There are > many businesses who work like this. One in particular is ExtJS. I > think that 2-300 USD / seat would be reasonable for a major release > (including minor releases). > > > That's exactly what I would like: A max price, to be able to estimate > costs before engaging. > > That we /might/ get the linking exception for free, if we contribute in > a way you like (or you whink we merit it, you like us, or whatever, > perhaps depending on your moods that day :-) is nice, but in most > commercial contexts its necessary to make estimates, before really > engaging. > > In this context it would be very nice with a clearly stated max cost > against which one is guaranteed to get a seat with linking exception, > for a specific major release. > The exact "max price" would not be so important. I would expect that we > never paid it, as there would probably be some things that we would need > to improve in XMLVM, anyway. > > Yours, > Jacob > > -- > Jacob Nordfalk > एस्पेरान्तो के हो? http://www.esperanto.org.np/. > Memoraĵoj de KEF -. http://kef.saluton.dk/memorajoj/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users |
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From: Jacob N. <jac...@gm...> - 2009-10-08 08:29:35
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2009/10/7 Gergely Kis <ger...@ma...> > - It would be nice to have a commercial license for those who don't want or > just can't contribute (e.g. no resources...etc.) There are many businesses > who work like this. One in particular is ExtJS. I think that 2-300 USD / > seat would be reasonable for a major release (including minor releases). > That's exactly what I would like: A max price, to be able to estimate costs before engaging. That we *might* get the linking exception for free, if we contribute in a way you like (or you whink we merit it, you like us, or whatever, perhaps depending on your moods that day :-) is nice, but in most commercial contexts its necessary to make estimates, before really engaging. In this context it would be very nice with a clearly stated max cost against which one is guaranteed to get a seat with linking exception, for a specific major release. The exact "max price" would not be so important. I would expect that we never paid it, as there would probably be some things that we would need to improve in XMLVM, anyway. Yours, Jacob -- Jacob Nordfalk एस्पेरान्तो के हो? http://www.esperanto.org.np/. Memoraĵoj de KEF -. http://kef.saluton.dk/memorajoj/ |
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From: Arno P. <ar...@pu...> - 2009-10-08 08:22:08
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we currently don't generate correct Objective-C code if your Java class lives in the default namespace. Add a package definition at the front and try again. Arno Ruby Zheng wrote: > Hello, > > Trying to cross compile Hello World to iPhone and ran into the following > issue during make. > > $ make > mkdir -p obj/ > gcc-4.2 -x objective-c -arch i386 -fmessage-length=0 -pipe -std=c99 > -Wno-trigraphs -fpascal-strings -fasm-blocks -O0 -Wreturn-type > -D__IPHONE_OS_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED=30000 -isysroot > /Developer/Platforms/iPhoneSimulator.platform/Developer/SDKs/iPhoneSimulator3.1.sdk > -fvisibility=hidden -mmacosx-version-min=10.5 -gdwarf-2 -I. -c > null_Test1.m -o obj/null_Test1.o > null_Test1.m:1:18: error: Test1.h: No such file or directory > make: *** [obj/null_Test1.o] Error 1 > > It can't find Test1.h. Why is that? > > Thanks~ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users |
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From: Ruby Z. <zhe...@gm...> - 2009-10-08 06:44:27
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Hello, Trying to cross compile Hello World to iPhone and ran into the following issue during make. $ make mkdir -p obj/ gcc-4.2 -x objective-c -arch i386 -fmessage-length=0 -pipe -std=c99 -Wno-trigraphs -fpascal-strings -fasm-blocks -O0 -Wreturn-type -D__IPHONE_OS_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED=30000 -isysroot /Developer/Platforms/iPhoneSimulator.platform/Developer/SDKs/iPhoneSimulator3.1.sdk -fvisibility=hidden -mmacosx-version-min=10.5 -gdwarf-2 -I. -c null_Test1.m -o obj/null_Test1.o null_Test1.m:1:18: error: Test1.h: No such file or directory make: *** [obj/null_Test1.o] Error 1 It can't find Test1.h. Why is that? Thanks~ |
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From: Inderjeet S. <ind...@gm...> - 2009-10-08 04:13:25
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Hi Arno, I hope the XMLVM team is maintaining copyrights appropriately to preserve their ability to grant linking exception or offer XMLVM under dual license. When you are accepting external contributions, are you asking them to assign copyrights to you as well (A fairly standard practice with company sponsored open-source projects). Inder On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Gergely Kis <ger...@ma...>wrote: > Hi, > > 2009/10/7 Arno Puder <ar...@pu...> > >> >> well, Bjoern, as a quick note to your comment: you can never prevent >> someone making money with your contribution to an Open Source project. >> This is nothing unique to a dual licensing strategy. Redhat makes a lot >> of money using other's peoples work. Of course they provide a service on >> top of the packaging. That would be the same for us. I don't think >> anyone would just give money to the core team without asking for >> something in return (and by that I mean more than the linking >> exception). By giving you a linking exception for your contribution, you >> would be given the same chance of using XMLVM for your commercial >> ventures. >> >> With one important difference: they only have the source under the GPL > with linking exception. And from the earlier discussion it seems that the > linking exception is not transferrable to others. (Transferrability would > effectively defeat its purpose.) > > At the same time the XMLVM team is able to relicense the whole package > under a commercial license. > > I am not saying that this is a problem, it is simply a property of a > GPL/commercial project. > > Best Regards, > Gergely > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > |
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From: Jeff N. <not...@gm...> - 2009-10-08 02:23:27
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On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Jeff Norman <not...@gm...>wrote:
>
> Ah, i should have been able to figure that one out for myself... gotta
> overcome my fear of obj-c, eh? ;) Okay, so I've got passed that error. I
> actually did it two ways, first by removing the relevant line from the Java
> source before compiling, and then (partially to get into the obj-c code a
> bit) by adding a simple setProperty method to the xmlvm iPhone compatibility
> library -- bam, now the Java code doesn't need to be modified to run with
> setProperty calls present.
>
> Unfortunately, I have run into another problem that following through the
> obj-c source doesn't seem to be helping me with. In fact, the same problem
> appears to happens on all "iPhone-only" apps (iFireworks, iRemote, NeHe4)
> with the exception of iHelloWorld (which runs fine). None of the Android
> cross-compiled versions of the apps have this problem.
>
> I've included the crash reports below. Does anyone have any hints?
>
>
Solved my own problem. Looks like all I needed to do was change the Makefile
to reference version 3.1 of the iPhone SDK (the one I have installed)
instead of version 3.0:
--- Makefile 2009-10-07 22:19:42.000000000 -0400
+++ Makefile 2009-10-07 22:20:08.000000000 -0400
@@ -22,7 +22,7 @@
CFLAGS=-x objective-c -arch i386 -fmessage-length=0 -pipe -std=c99 \
-Wno-trigraphs -fpascal-strings -fasm-blocks -O0 -Wreturn-type \
-D__IPHONE_OS_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED=30000 \
- -isysroot
/Developer/Platforms/iPhoneSimulator.platform/Developer/SDKs/iPhoneSimulator3.0.sdk
\
+ -isysroot
/Developer/Platforms/iPhoneSimulator.platform/Developer/SDKs/iPhoneSimulator3.1.sdk
\
-fvisibility=hidden -mmacosx-version-min=10.5 -gdwarf-2 \
-I.
@@ -30,7 +30,7 @@
LD=$(CC)
LDFLAGS=-arch i386 \
- -isysroot
/Developer/Platforms/iPhoneSimulator.platform/Developer/SDKs/iPhoneSimulator3.0.sdk
\
+ -isysroot
/Developer/Platforms/iPhoneSimulator.platform/Developer/SDKs/iPhoneSimulator3.1.sdk
\
-mmacosx-version-min=10.5 \
-framework Foundation -framework UIKit -framework CoreGraphics
-framework QuartzCore \
-framework AVFoundation -framework OpenGLES
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From: Joseph R. F. <ruk...@op...> - 2009-10-08 00:58:01
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Hi,
I was trying to play with xmlvm and see it working porting an android
app to iphone.
I wrote this simple android app which runs ok in the android emulator.
package com.home.imageviewer;
import android.app.Activity;
import android.os.Bundle;
import android.view.View;
import android.view.ViewGroup.LayoutParams;
import android.widget.AbsoluteLayout;
import android.widget.ImageView;
import android.widget.LinearLayout;
public class ImageViewer extends Activity {
/** Called when the activity is first created. */
@SuppressWarnings("deprecation")
@Override
public void onCreate(Bundle savedInstanceState) {
super.onCreate(savedInstanceState);
AbsoluteLayout layout = new AbsoluteLayout(this);
layout.setLayoutParams(new LayoutParams
(LayoutParams.FILL_PARENT, LayoutParams.FILL_PARENT));
ImageView viewer = new ImageView(this);
viewer.setImageResource(R.drawable.cat);
layout.addView(viewer, new AbsoluteLayout.LayoutParams
(AbsoluteLayout.LayoutParams.WRAP_CONTENT,
AbsoluteLayout.LayoutParams.WRAP_CONTENT, 0, 60));
setContentView(layout);
}
}
I think cross compiled it using xmlvm with android-on-iphone option
following the instructions in manual.pdf. Also I think there should be
some instructions for the newbies on how to add iphone frameworks to
the project and also which ones are needed. As I had to spend some
time to figure this out myself as it wasn't in the manual.pdf when
following the steps.
It successfully create iphone files. Well no errors were reported.
I then ran make in this directory which compiled the iphone files and
launched the iphone simulator.
However when I run my application, it opens up a black window and then
automatically shuts down.
I ran it via xcode and this is what I get in the IDE
2009-10-08 09:43:21.988 test[6829:207] *** Terminating app due to
uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '*** -
[NSPlaceholderMutableString initWithString:]: nil argument'
2009-10-08 09:43:21.990 test[6829:207] Stack: (
36152411,
2438119241,
36236347,
36236186,
588736,
145543,
42424,
41261,
41810,
9058
)
(gdb)
Any ideas? I was careful to write an app using only the features I was
confident were supported by the android compat library.
Regards,
Rukshan Fonseka.
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From: Gergely K. <ger...@ma...> - 2009-10-07 23:35:00
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Hi, 2009/10/7 Arno Puder <ar...@pu...> > > well, Bjoern, as a quick note to your comment: you can never prevent > someone making money with your contribution to an Open Source project. > This is nothing unique to a dual licensing strategy. Redhat makes a lot > of money using other's peoples work. Of course they provide a service on > top of the packaging. That would be the same for us. I don't think > anyone would just give money to the core team without asking for > something in return (and by that I mean more than the linking > exception). By giving you a linking exception for your contribution, you > would be given the same chance of using XMLVM for your commercial ventures. > > With one important difference: they only have the source under the GPL with linking exception. And from the earlier discussion it seems that the linking exception is not transferrable to others. (Transferrability would effectively defeat its purpose.) At the same time the XMLVM team is able to relicense the whole package under a commercial license. I am not saying that this is a problem, it is simply a property of a GPL/commercial project. Best Regards, Gergely |
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From: Arno P. <ar...@pu...> - 2009-10-07 20:30:12
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well, Bjoern, as a quick note to your comment: you can never prevent someone making money with your contribution to an Open Source project. This is nothing unique to a dual licensing strategy. Redhat makes a lot of money using other's peoples work. Of course they provide a service on top of the packaging. That would be the same for us. I don't think anyone would just give money to the core team without asking for something in return (and by that I mean more than the linking exception). By giving you a linking exception for your contribution, you would be given the same chance of using XMLVM for your commercial ventures. Arno Björn Caroll wrote: > Time for me to enter the debate. For me it has been clear from the start > what the licensing was and what that meant to me. > I saw it as a good thing that everybody that what to get the benefit of > other peoples work had to contribute them self. That is what open source > is about in my opinion. > I have been working on a JavaME compatibility library for the iPhone for > a couple of moths and intended to contribute it to XMLVM when I had > cleaned it up. > If other people contribute code I get the benefit from it and we can all > make money on selling the iPhone app. I am ok with that some contribute > a little and others a lot. There is no absolute justice. However if > there is a monetary contribution all of it goes to the core team and > nothing to the others (me). > This is nothing unique for XMLVM, others have dual licensing but I have > always wondered why anyone would contribute to such a project!. > >>From being very positive I am now reconsidering my contribution to XMLVM. > > /Björn > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users |
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