From: Robin K. <kom...@ge...> - 2004-05-22 15:48:43
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Dexter Filmore wrote: > Now that's one helluva annoying habit you mimic from MPlayer here! > I couldn't care less - I know the system is busy and can't deliver for the > moment like it should, and the popup windows won't make it better or save > anyone - *please* throw it out! > Or tell me where the code sits and I'll burn it out myself happily. You can disable it by setting the percentage of discarded/skipped frames to tolerate in the 'Video' tab to 100%. You must be at the expert experience level or higher in order to see it. I must agree however, if "your system is too slow" it is painfully obvious and the popup only serves to annoy. -- Wishing you good fortune, --Robin Kay-- (komadori) |
From: Miguel F. <mfr...@gm...> - 2004-05-22 23:24:16
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On Sat, 22 May 2004 18:56:17 -0400, Derrik Pates <dp...@ds...> wrote: > > Miguel Freitas wrote: > > ok, since i'm partly responsible for this confusion, let me make a > > suggestion before we kill this not much welcomed feature: > > > > (snip) > > Seems like a reasonable compromise to me. ok, may you please try current cvs? i added the new dialog there with the "don't bother me again" option. as soon as we have a consensus about it (including best phrasing and stuff) we can make a new release. regards, Miguel |
From: Siggi L. <si...@us...> - 2004-05-24 06:53:07
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Hi Miguel, On Sat, 22 May 2004, Miguel Freitas wrote: > ok, may you please try current cvs? i added the new dialog there with > the "don't bother me again" option. > > as soon as we have a consensus about it (including best phrasing and > stuff) we can make a new release. I've tried CVS, and while I like the idea, there are still some usability concerns: - The default for the check box changes current behavior. This is generally bad, as people expect things to stay as they are if they do nothing. - The label is printed boldface. As it's not a heading or warning, it should look like all other text. It's not more important than the rest of the dialog, even if that means some people won't read it. Those people will just get the dialog again, until they are motivated enough to disable it. - The label uses negation ("Don't..."), which makes more complicated to read. "Show this warning when dropping too many frames" is a little bit better, "Disable this warning" is probably best. - Clicking the label doesn't change ckeckbox state. (This is a bug in xitk, I know...) - The URL looks a bit lost on the dialog. How about putting it in another dialog that appears when "Learn more..." is clicked? That dialog could also contain more options to open the URL (open with konqueror, mozilla, galeon, ...; copy URL to clipboard, ...) - On my system, "Learn More..." opened a new Mozilla, which takes about 30s without any obvious feedback. There should be at least a warning that this could take a bit. Of course, it's better to tell the running instance of galeon to open another window with the URL, which takes about 1s, but I guess it's not feasible to integrate xine with all existing browsers... Cheers, Siggi |
From: Miguel F. <mfr...@gm...> - 2004-05-24 15:10:39
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Hi Siggi, On Mon, 24 May 2004 08:13:44 +0200 (CEST), Siggi Langauf <si...@us...> wrote: > > I've tried CVS, and while I like the idea, there are still some usability > concerns: > > - The default for the check box changes current behavior. This is > generally bad, as people expect things to stay as they are if they do > nothing. ok, this is easy to change. i thought about leaving it checked by default given the negative feedback we received about this dialog... however, thinking again about it i now agree with you. > - The label is printed boldface. As it's not a heading or warning, it > should look like all other text. It's not more important than the rest > of the dialog, even if that means some people won't read it. Those > people will just get the dialog again, until they are motivated enough > to disable it. ok. i didn't noticed this. i guess it was result of copy/pasting the font name from somewhere else. > - The label uses negation ("Don't..."), which makes more complicated to > read. "Show this warning when dropping too many frames" is a little bit > better, "Disable this warning" is probably best. "Disable this warning" is very good to me. > - Clicking the label doesn't change ckeckbox state. (This is a bug in > xitk, I know...) it should be possible to fix, i saw code somewhere else in xine-ui that does that. > - The URL looks a bit lost on the dialog. How about putting it in another > dialog that appears when "Learn more..." is clicked? That dialog could > also contain more options to open the URL (open with konqueror, mozilla, > galeon, ...; copy URL to clipboard, ...) i agree with you, however, i'm not much skilled in xitk programming. it would take me some time to create this new dialog. if somebody else wants to implement this, it would be nice. > - On my system, "Learn More..." opened a new Mozilla, which takes about > 30s without any obvious feedback. There should be at least a warning > that this could take a bit. Of course, it's better to tell the running > instance of galeon to open another window with the URL, which takes > about 1s, but I guess it's not feasible to integrate xine with all > existing browsers... let's see what we can do. perhaps just opening another window with "Opening mozilla web browser, this might take a while..." regards, Miguel |
From: Daniel Caujolle-B. <seg...@cl...> - 2004-05-24 18:30:00
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=2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Le lundi 24 Mai 2004 15:10, Miguel Freitas a =E9crit=A0: > Hi Siggi, > > On Mon, 24 May 2004 08:13:44 +0200 (CEST), Siggi Langauf > > <si...@us...> wrote: > > I've tried CVS, and while I like the idea, there are still some usabili= ty > > concerns: > > > > - The default for the check box changes current behavior. This is > > generally bad, as people expect things to stay as they are if they do > > nothing. > > ok, this is easy to change. i thought about leaving it checked by > default given the negative feedback we received about this dialog... > however, thinking again about it i now agree with you. > > > - The label is printed boldface. As it's not a heading or warning, it > > should look like all other text. It's not more important than the rest > > of the dialog, even if that means some people won't read it. Those > > people will just get the dialog again, until they are motivated enough > > to disable it. > > ok. i didn't noticed this. i guess it was result of copy/pasting the > font name from somewhere else. > > > - The label uses negation ("Don't..."), which makes more complicated to > > read. "Show this warning when dropping too many frames" is a little b= it > > better, "Disable this warning" is probably best. > > "Disable this warning" is very good to me. > > > - Clicking the label doesn't change ckeckbox state. (This is a bug in > > xitk, I know...) > > it should be possible to fix, i saw code somewhere else in xine-ui > that does that. in setup, by example. Easy, set the same callback than the checkbox. Cheers. =2D --=20 73's de Daniel "Der Schreckliche", F1RMB. -=3D- Daniel Caujolle-Bert -=3D- seg...@cl... -= =3D- -=3D- http://naboo.homelinux.org -=3D- =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAslslLToa6iW5KUsRAuK5AJ9K5ZN4NtZSmyaxhuZxJQsxj7WIkQCfcmMe 8qLkGVxqzh39srs6Fl0qjJQ=3D =3DxL0z =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Michael R. <mr...@us...> - 2004-05-24 13:14:17
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Hi Siggi, > > ok, may you please try current cvs? i added the new dialog there with > > the "don't bother me again" option. > > > > as soon as we have a consensus about it (including best phrasing and > > stuff) we can make a new release. > > I've tried CVS, and while I like the idea, there are still some usability > concerns: > [snip] I agree with all your concerns. > - The URL looks a bit lost on the dialog. How about putting it in another > dialog that appears when "Learn more..." is clicked? That dialog could > also contain more options to open the URL (open with konqueror, mozilla, > galeon, ...; copy URL to clipboard, ...) Is browser selection via a listbox/combobox possible? Michael -- die_if_kernel("Whee... Hello Mr. Penguin", current->tss.kregs); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/kernel/traps.c |
From: Daniel Caujolle-B. <seg...@cl...> - 2004-05-24 18:29:58
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=2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Le lundi 24 Mai 2004 13:14, Michael Roitzsch a =E9crit=A0: > Hi Siggi, > > > > ok, may you please try current cvs? i added the new dialog there with > > > the "don't bother me again" option. > > > > > > as soon as we have a consensus about it (including best phrasing and > > > stuff) we can make a new release. > > > > I've tried CVS, and while I like the idea, there are still some usabili= ty > > concerns: > > [snip] > > I agree with all your concerns. > > > - The URL looks a bit lost on the dialog. How about putting it in anoth= er > > dialog that appears when "Learn more..." is clicked? That dialog could > > also contain more options to open the URL (open with konqueror, > > mozilla, galeon, ...; copy URL to clipboard, ...) > > Is browser selection via a listbox/combobox possible? we can already know which desktop/wm is running, is would be not too hard = to=20 start a browser in majority of cases. Cheers. =2D --=20 73's de Daniel "Der Schreckliche", F1RMB. -=3D- Daniel Caujolle-Bert -=3D- seg...@cl... -= =3D- -=3D- http://naboo.homelinux.org -=3D- =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAslqELToa6iW5KUsRAiX8AJ9ST9geLqx02g2+SQ5vdYJZILCbHgCeLXno ZLx9utYO7Ao5Wp0apXFEWew=3D =3DQObd =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Michael R. <mr...@us...> - 2004-05-24 20:54:28
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Hi Daniel, > > Is browser selection via a listbox/combobox possible? > > we can already know which desktop/wm is running, is would be not too hard > to start a browser in majority of cases. You are right. That's an even better solution. Michael -- "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -Pablo Picasso |
From: Miguel F. <mfr...@gm...> - 2004-05-22 21:38:21
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hi, On Sat, 22 May 2004 13:09:05 -0400, Derrik Pates <dp...@ds...> wrote: > > Robin KAY wrote: > > I must agree however, if > > "your system is too slow" it is painfully obvious and the popup only > > serves to annoy. > > Thirded. I run xine on my Powerbook Pismo, and I _know_ it won't get the > full framerate of the stuff I'm playing (640x360 DivX/XviD TV rips from > HDTV source on a 400 MHz G3), but it gets close enough for me. The > warnings are nothing but annoying, and should be thrown out with > yesterday's brussels sprouts. ok, since i'm partly responsible for this confusion, let me make a suggestion before we kill this not much welcomed feature: "The amount of dropped frame is too high, your system might be slow, not properly optimized or just too loaded." checkbox: X - "Don't ever show this message again." buttons: - "Close" - "Learn more (http://xinehq.de/index.php/faq#SPEEDUP)" what do you think? regards, Miguel |
From: Vincent P. <sub...@ya...> - 2004-05-22 22:33:20
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On Sat, 22 May 2004 18:38:19 -0300 Miguel Freitas <mfr...@gm...> wrote: > hi, > > ok, since i'm partly responsible for this confusion, let me make a > suggestion before we kill this not much welcomed feature: > > "The amount of dropped frame is too high, your system might be slow, > not properly optimized or just too loaded." > > checkbox: X - "Don't ever show this message again." > > buttons: > > - "Close" > - "Learn more (http://xinehq.de/index.php/faq#SPEEDUP)" > > what do you think? > > regards, > > Miguel That could also be a good idea to disable the warning when going fast forward (or at any non-1x playing speed). Vincent Pelletier |