From: Hetz B. H. <he...@wi...> - 2002-08-31 00:10:19
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Hi, A friend of mine who's running Xine 0.9.12 asked me to suggest this idea... Today with the GUI of xine, we have the option to set things up with this D= VD=20 "player" graphics and all the buttons there, which seems really nice, but=20 looks not-so clear on small TV's (14", 20").. So he thought about suggesting something if the developers could add... OSD mode setup - the same way that you setup your home TV - with the text a= nd=20 icons - which are very large, but really readble. Also, this text can be ea= sy=20 translated to any language.. Mplayer's OSD is a nice idea in that direction, but my friend suggest if=20 someone could add the full GUI as a text OSD on the screen so people who=20 watch DVD's on small TV, can do the set on their TV just like their setting= =20 bright and colors on home TV.. Thoughts??? Thanks, Hetz |
From: <be...@us...> - 2002-08-31 12:54:02
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Am Samstag 31 August 2002 01:09 schrieb Hetz Ben Hamo: > Hi, > > A friend of mine who's running Xine 0.9.12 asked me to suggest this ide= a... > > Today with the GUI of xine, we have the option to set things up with th= is > DVD "player" graphics and all the buttons there, which seems really nic= e, > but looks not-so clear on small TV's (14", 20").. > > So he thought about suggesting something if the developers could add... > > OSD mode setup - the same way that you setup your home TV - with the te= xt > and icons - which are very large, but really readble. Also, this text c= an > be easy translated to any language.. > > Mplayer's OSD is a nice idea in that direction, but my friend suggest i= f > someone could add the full GUI as a text OSD on the screen so people wh= o > watch DVD's on small TV, can do the set on their TV just like their set= ting > bright and colors on home TV.. I am working on something similar. I am working on a project called LiMmB= o=20 (linux based multimedia box) which aims at building a Linux CE device. We= are=20 about to release our first version (once our webside is filled with live=20 www.limmbo.org) which overs CD, Ripper+Encoder and Audio Jukebox with a G= UI=20 optimized for TV (text size, use of remote control, line flicker etc, 4:3= and=20 16:9 aspect ratio, no mouse, no keyboard). Currently I am working on=20 integrating Xine lib so that we have Video playback as well. I have alrea= dy=20 my UI on top of the video using color keying but it would be nice to have= =20 alpha blending for that.=20 Regards Immo > > Thoughts??? > > Thanks, > Hetz > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old > cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! > https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=9Furceforge1&refcode1=D33390 > _______________________________________________ > xine-devel mailing list > xin...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xine-devel |
From: <bar...@t-...> - 2002-09-01 18:31:50
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hi hetz, > OSD mode setup - the same way that you setup your home TV - with the text and > icons - which are very large, but really readble. Also, this text can be easy > translated to any language.. in the past some people have said they're interested/working on osd-based xine-uis. i think this is a very interesting idea but until now i haven't seen any results. over the weekend i have for the first time used xine to watch digital television (dvb) and i too thought it's be nice to have an osd ui. btw. i think the transport stream demuxer needs some work - it didn't handle any of the stream coming from the dvb driver, i had to convert everything to program streams to make it work. i hope i'll be able to come up with a input_dvb plugin soon which handles all the driver setup and zapping, then the next issue will definitely be the ts demuxer. cheers, guenter -- "I belong to no organized party. I am a Democrat." -- Will Rogers |
From: <be...@us...> - 2002-09-01 19:02:07
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Am Sonntag 01 September 2002 19:31 schrieb Guenter Bartsch: > hi hetz, > > > OSD mode setup - the same way that you setup your home TV - with the = text > > and icons - which are very large, but really readble. Also, this text= can > > be easy translated to any language.. > > in the past some people have said they're interested/working on osd-bas= ed > xine-uis. i think this is a very interesting idea but until now i haven= 't > seen any results. I have a screenshot of what I am working on at the moment. The integratio= n of=20 Xine with LiMmBo. http://www.immo.benjes.de/tmp/limmboxine_colorkeying.jpg So far I am using color keying for doing that (The UI is in Java and Xine= is=20 controlled via a JMF Player I wrote for Xine. The Video is displayed in a= =20 Java Component). It would be much nicer if I could use some kind of alpha blending as show= n in=20 http://www.immo.benjes.de/tmp/limmboxine_alphablending.jpg (this is a faked screen shot). It would be great if I could take my offsc= reen=20 Image (32 bit ARGB) from Java and display it on top of the video using th= e=20 alpha in the offscreen image. The normal UI already uses alpha blending against a background image http://www.immo.benjes.de/tmp/snapshot6.jpg =20 > > over the weekend i have for the first time used xine to watch digital > television (dvb) and i too thought it's be nice to have an osd ui. Definitely, for DVD playback it isn't that important but for DVB it is. E.g. for displaying the EIT present/following info etc. Regards Immo > > btw. i think the transport stream demuxer needs some work - it didn't > handle any of the stream coming from the dvb driver, i had to convert > everything to program streams to make it work. i hope i'll be able to > come up with a input_dvb plugin soon which handles all the driver setup > and zapping, then the next issue will definitely be the ts demuxer. > > cheers, > > guenter |
From: Hetz B. H. <he...@wi...> - 2002-09-01 19:11:39
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Screenshots looks very impressive... The BIG question is - how does it look on a small (14") or medium (20") TV= =20 screen. Remember that TV is not much more then 352x288 pixels (PAL at=20 least).. Thanks, Hetz On Sunday 01 September 2002 22:06, be...@us... wrote: > Am Sonntag 01 September 2002 19:31 schrieb Guenter Bartsch: > > hi hetz, > > > > > OSD mode setup - the same way that you setup your home TV - with the > > > text and icons - which are very large, but really readble. Also, this > > > text can be easy translated to any language.. > > > > in the past some people have said they're interested/working on osd-bas= ed > > xine-uis. i think this is a very interesting idea but until now i haven= 't > > seen any results. > > I have a screenshot of what I am working on at the moment. The integration > of Xine with LiMmBo. > http://www.immo.benjes.de/tmp/limmboxine_colorkeying.jpg > > So far I am using color keying for doing that (The UI is in Java and Xine > is controlled via a JMF Player I wrote for Xine. The Video is displayed in > a Java Component). > > It would be much nicer if I could use some kind of alpha blending as shown > in http://www.immo.benjes.de/tmp/limmboxine_alphablending.jpg > (this is a faked screen shot). It would be great if I could take my > offscreen Image (32 bit ARGB) from Java and display it on top of the video > using the alpha in the offscreen image. > > The normal UI already uses alpha blending against a background image > http://www.immo.benjes.de/tmp/snapshot6.jpg > > > over the weekend i have for the first time used xine to watch digital > > television (dvb) and i too thought it's be nice to have an osd ui. > > Definitely, for DVD playback it isn't that important but for DVB it is. > E.g. for displaying the EIT present/following info etc. > > > Regards > > Immo > > > btw. i think the transport stream demuxer needs some work - it didn't > > handle any of the stream coming from the dvb driver, i had to convert > > everything to program streams to make it work. i hope i'll be able to > > come up with a input_dvb plugin soon which handles all the driver setup > > and zapping, then the next issue will definitely be the ts demuxer. > > > > cheers, > > > > guenter > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old > cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! > https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=3Dsourceforge1&refcode1=3Dvs3390 > _______________________________________________ > xine-devel mailing list > xin...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xine-devel |
From: <be...@us...> - 2002-09-01 19:18:35
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Am Sonntag 01 September 2002 20:10 schrieben Sie: > Screenshots looks very impressive... > > The BIG question is - how does it look on a small (14") or medium (20")= TV > screen. Remember that TV is not much more then 352x288 pixels (PAL at > least).. PAL doesn't have a specific horizontal resolution as it is analog (but yo= u=20 still got 575 lines). But digital TV specifies a resolution of 720x576. W= ith=20 a small TV you might have the problem that the shadow mask of the TV is d= oing=20 a subsampling. The UI supports two different resolutions, 720x576 (or 768x576) for 4:3 T= Vs=20 and 1024x576 for 16:9 TVs. The main problem will be the font size but you can adjust the font size i= n a=20 config file. Regards Immo=20 > > Thanks, > Hetz > > On Sunday 01 September 2002 22:06, be...@us... wrote: > > Am Sonntag 01 September 2002 19:31 schrieb Guenter Bartsch: > > > hi hetz, > > > > > > > OSD mode setup - the same way that you setup your home TV - with = the > > > > text and icons - which are very large, but really readble. Also, = this > > > > text can be easy translated to any language.. > > > > > > in the past some people have said they're interested/working on > > > osd-based xine-uis. i think this is a very interesting idea but unt= il > > > now i haven't seen any results. > > > > I have a screenshot of what I am working on at the moment. The > > integration of Xine with LiMmBo. > > http://www.immo.benjes.de/tmp/limmboxine_colorkeying.jpg > > > > So far I am using color keying for doing that (The UI is in Java and = Xine > > is controlled via a JMF Player I wrote for Xine. The Video is display= ed > > in a Java Component). > > > > It would be much nicer if I could use some kind of alpha blending as > > shown in http://www.immo.benjes.de/tmp/limmboxine_alphablending.jpg > > (this is a faked screen shot). It would be great if I could take my > > offscreen Image (32 bit ARGB) from Java and display it on top of the > > video using the alpha in the offscreen image. > > > > The normal UI already uses alpha blending against a background image > > http://www.immo.benjes.de/tmp/snapshot6.jpg > > > > > over the weekend i have for the first time used xine to watch digit= al > > > television (dvb) and i too thought it's be nice to have an osd ui. > > > > Definitely, for DVD playback it isn't that important but for DVB it i= s. > > E.g. for displaying the EIT present/following info etc. > > > > > > Regards > > > > Immo > > > > > btw. i think the transport stream demuxer needs some work - it didn= 't > > > handle any of the stream coming from the dvb driver, i had to conve= rt > > > everything to program streams to make it work. i hope i'll be able = to > > > come up with a input_dvb plugin soon which handles all the driver s= etup > > > and zapping, then the next issue will definitely be the ts demuxer. > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > guenter > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old > > cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! > > https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=3Dsourceforge1&refcode1=3Dvs3390 > > _______________________________________________ > > xine-devel mailing list > > xin...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xine-devel |
From: Miguel F. <mi...@ce...> - 2002-09-02 16:11:11
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Hi Hetz, On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 21:09, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > OSD mode setup - the same way that you setup your home TV - with the text and > icons - which are very large, but really readble. Also, this text can be easy > translated to any language.. > > Mplayer's OSD is a nice idea in that direction, but my friend suggest if > someone could add the full GUI as a text OSD on the screen so people who > watch DVD's on small TV, can do the set on their TV just like their setting > bright and colors on home TV.. > > Thoughts??? just a small test i did, anyway... have you seen that? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=1912654 regards, Miguel |