Re: [WinLIRC] Re: Analog Cable Decoders

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Thank you, Thank you, Thank you Scott.

It works great!

The file you sent is just what I needed.

ABout the transmitters, I've been using winlirc 0.6.4 and tried to do
something different, to use 

the DTR and TX with two different IR led transmitters, to two different
devices. But it didn't 

work ok. It begins to work as espected, but after a while they become
unified. The cable I built 

is very simple, no diode, it just connects the leds in the TX and DTR and
they USE THE SAME GND. 

so maybe that's the problem. Anybody managed to control more than 1 device
with one serial only, 

and more than one ir led trasmitter on it?

In my tests, on windows 98, DTR seems to be more stable than TX, unlike
some information I read 

here and there. And your post suggested that. I will investigate that
more.

Is there any plans to winlirc work in kernel level under windows, like
linux? It would be very 

good, more reliable and wouldn't charge the cpu so much, any thoughts on
that? like a vxd on 98 or 

a .sys on NT/XP. IRtrans (www.irtrans.de) and Tira 

(http://www.home-electro.com/tira1.htm#Compatibility) have device drivers,
so they work more 

smoothly than winlirc, don't they? Somebody have used this devices? Are
they any good?

I'd like to build a better transmitter too, what's the better option with
and without an external 

power supply?

I will build another receiver, based on homebrew, since my pctv one, it's
not that good, and 

probably was the culprit on the failed attempt to decode the tocoms.

Where exactly did you find the file with the tocom 5507 in the
www.remotecentral.com, and how to 

convert PRONTO to LIRC files?

I know that I have more questions than before, fell free to ignore them,
because the most 

important problem was solved.

Thanks again, and WInlirc rules, it's better than LIRC right now IMHO.
Only lacking low level 

access on windows.
LIRC it's just to damn painfull to setup, compile kernel, modules, 2.4.x
2.6.x , blah blah, etc. 

Winlirc is easy. 

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Scott Baily wrote:

> At 11:24 PM 3/24/2004 -0300, Rafael Rangel wrote:
> > I need to decode a remote that is used in old analog cable decoders, the
> >tocoms, made by General Instrument now a company acquired my motorola.
> >
> > The models are Tocom 5507 and 5508, they use the same remote control,
> 	
> 	The good news is a found a pronto configuration file for the Tocom 5507
> at www.remotecentral.com
> 
> > Well moving on, I can't decode this remotes, winlirc gets all wrong
> >their codes. Like it's missing some bits.
> 
> Actually, it seems to be using a very unusual protocol, then number
> of pulses doesn't seem to be constant.
> 
> >  My receveing hardware is a sensor that comes with the Studio PCTV
> >capture video boards, that are basically an IR led conected to the serial
> >port. It works ok onj Winlirc, but on LIRC it doesn;t respond to any
> >serial variation (Red Hat 9 + kernel.org,etc) everything configured ok,
> 	
> 	I'm wondering if you have it configured as an RX device in WinLIRC
> (This is different than the typical homebrew receiver). It won't be able to
> detect the pulse length, so it uses a virtual pulse.  I don't know anything
> about the PCTV, but I'm suspecting this because all your pulses seem to be
> exactly 900. If so you can't fully learn any codes with your receiver.
> 
> 
> >  I wish to know if somebody knows this decoders, and could send me a .rc
> >file that contais it's codes, cause I can't decode them, and the hardware
> >suggested on LIRC and WINLIRC, receivers it's impossible to get on my
> >city, it's a very small town.
> 
> >Attached are some raw codes.
> >How hard would be to make .rc by hand?
> 	You haven't mentioned this, but I'd make sure your transmitter is working
> with some other device first.  This remote appears to use a frequency of
> 26742 Hz.
> The TX transmitter that WinLIRC usually prefers will only go down to 38400 Hz.
> If you use the DTR transmitter it should work at this frequency in Windows
> 98, but I'm
> not sure if it will work in more recent versions. LIRC should have no problems
> transmitting on the DTR pin.  But I'm not sure... Does the current version
> of LIRC support
> transmitting in raw codes mode, or does it have to have a remote file with
> hexidecimal
> button codes.
> I've included the raw codes mode configuration file at the buttom. These
> values should be almost exact,
> as the pronto can count the individual IR LED blinks. You might have to
> experiment with the gap value,
> since my conversion program came up with these gaps in the order the
> buttons are listed:
> gap = 216356
> gap = 172195
> gap = 61923
> gap = 136971
> gap = 244476
> gap = 173466
> gap = 206372
> gap = 162323
> gap = 49658
> gap = 184647
> gap = 176981
> gap = 236997
> gap = 249748
> 
> It seems that the codes may actually be even shorter than this, and are
> shown already repeating a few times.
> It may be that 40000 or 200000 are more appropriate as a gap, I really
> don't know how this was recorded. The comment said:
> "After much manipulation, here is a set of codes which work with the Tocom
> 5507 cable box. This may also work on all the other 5xxx series boxes as
> well."
> 
> Here's the raw button codes I managed to get from the pronto file in .rc
> format
> --------------------------------
> begin remote
> 
>   name   Tocom-5507
>   flags RAW_CODES
>   eps            40
>   aeps          100
>   ptrail          0
>   repeat     0     0
>   gap    50000
>   frequency	26742
> 
>       begin raw_codes
> 
> 	name 1
>              1570    1533    3103    1570    3103   40160
>              1570    1533    3103    1570    3103
> 
> 	name 2
>              1570    1533    1570    1533    4636   40160
>              1570    1533    1570    1533    4636
> 
> 	name 3
>              1570    1533    7740   40160    1570    1533
>              7740
> 
> 	name 4
>              1570    1533    3103    3103    1570   40160
>              1570    1533    3103    3103    1570
> 
> 	name 5
>              1570    1533    1570    1533    1570    1533
>              1570   40160    1570    1533    1570    1533
>              1570    1533    1570
> 
> 	name 6
>              1570    1533    4674    1533    1570   40160
>              1570    1533    4674    1533    1570
> 
> 	name 7
>              1570    1533    3103    1533    1570   41693
>              1570    1533    3103    1533    1570
> 
> 	name 8
>              1570    1533    1570    1533    3103   41693
>              1570    1533    1570    1533    3103
> 
> 	name 9
>              1570    1533    6207   41730    1570    1533
>              6207
> 
> 	name 0
>              1570    1533    1570    1533    1570   43263
>              1570    1533    1570    1533    1570
> 
> 	name enter
>              1570    1533    4674    3103    1570   38589
>              1570    1533    4674    3103    1570
> 
> 	name on
>              1570    1533    4674   43263    1570    1533
>              4674
> 
> 	name off
>              1570    1533    4674  242157    1570    1533
>              4674   43263    1570    1533    4674
> 
>       end raw_codes
> 
> end remote
> 
> 
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