In components styles there is only an apa folder no IEEE at all.
I installed and enabled IEEE and it seems to be working fine now. I can confirm IEEE is now in teh components /styles folder!
Let me know if I can be of further help.
Just as an aside are styles only used for formatting output or can they be used for input?
I previously has a fairly tortuous route to import a csv file(csv->RIS- >Endnote XML-> wikindx) and if I could write my own style that would solve that problem.
Thaks for your help it is very much appreciated.
Regards
Roger
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If you're offering help, it would be great to know if the v5.x database you have is correctly upgraded with the new 6.0.5 code released last night. We can't reproduce your issues but think we have fixed them.
Regards,
Mark
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If you're offering help, it would be great to know if the v5.x database you
have is correctly upgraded with the new 6.0.5 code released last night. We
can't reproduce your issues but think we have fixed them.
Fresh install perfect no glitches. Installs apa style.
Overwriting worked fine with producing some warnings see attached. In
components styles was picking up the old 5.8.1 styles with underscore see
screen shot. If I recall the wikindx style was installed in this case.
I did a bit more testing on 6.0.5 and could not get the Endnote xml to work
properly. It is exporting the header but no resources. I tried both from
list and basket and got the same result. Just to make sure I was using the
right process I also tried RIS and it worked fine
Concerning Patent fields, I would not say I was an expert, but I like to
keep track of the key dates and include Granted date and Application date
which I have as custom fields. I do know a patent attorney and could ask
him if you would like a definitive set of fields.
I am not sure where they are coming from! I had assumed it was something to
do with the update process for wikindx but it could also be something to do
with the backup tool I am using. I am working on a siteground server and
using there standard backup tool so in principle I am reinstating the files
and data base as they where when 5.8.1 was installed. I did a quick search
but cannot find any further information. I have not been tracking these
files to be able to comment further.
Perhaps the best thing is to start again with a fresh install, and I will
keep my eye on it next time when I update. That way I can be clear about
what is happening. I can also try to use the backup tool and see what it
does in a controlled way when working with a clean version.
If you do not see this behaviour, I suspect its the backup tool. If so I
apologise for not having realised this was the case.
I am not sure where they are coming from! I had assumed it was something to
do with the update process for wikindx but it could also be something to do
with the backup tool I am using. I am working on a siteground server and
using there standard backup tool so in principle I am reinstating the files
and data base as they where when 5.8.1 was installed. I did a quick search
but cannot find any further information. I have not been tracking these
files to be able to comment further.
Perhaps the best thing is to start again with a fresh install, and I will
keep my eye on it next time when I update. That way I can be clear about
what is happening. I can also try to use the backup tool and see what it
does in a controlled way when working with a clean version.
If you do not see this behaviour, I suspect it's the backup tool. If so I
apologise for not having realised this was the case.
I had a quick look and tried what you suggested and only the file deleted was restored no sign of any ._xxx files
So I recovered and downloaded ._styles and had a look at it.
It contains Mac.OSX and com.apple.quarantine with a lot of nulls. I assume its probably binary and looks like it has its origins on a MAC. I do not have binary editor so I cannot be sure what it is.
As this is a UNIX server and I use windows I now do not believe it came from the server or myself.
Let me know if you want to look into this further.
I am not sure where they are coming from! I had assumed it was something to
do with the update process for wikindx but it could also be something to do
with the backup tool I am using. I am working on a siteground server and
using there standard backup tool so in principle I am reinstating the files
and data base as they where when 5.8.1 was installed. I did a quick search
but cannot find any further information. I have not been tracking these
files to be able to comment further.
Perhaps the best thing is to start again with a fresh install, and I will
keep my eye on it next time when I update. That way I can be clear about
what is happening. I can also try to use the backup tool and see what it
does in a controlled way when working with a clean version.
If you do not see this behaviour, I suspect it's the backup tool. If so I
apologise for not having realised this was the case.
I had a quick look and tried what you suggested and only the file deleted was restored no sign of
any ._xxx files
So I recovered and downloaded ._styles and had a look at it.
It contains Mac.OSX and com.apple.quarantine with a lot of nulls. I assume its probably binary and
looks like it has its origins on a MAC. I do not have binary editor so I cannot be sure what it is.
As this is a UNIX server and I use windows I now do not believe it came from the server or myself.
Let me know if you want to look into this further.
I am not sure where they are coming from! I had assumed it was something to
do with the update process for wikindx but it could also be something to do
with the backup tool I am using. I am working on a siteground server and
using there standard backup tool so in principle I am reinstating the files
and data base as they where when 5.8.1 was installed. I did a quick search
but cannot find any further information. I have not been tracking these
files to be able to comment further.
Perhaps the best thing is to start again with a fresh install, and I will
keep my eye on it next time when I update. That way I can be clear about
what is happening. I can also try to use the backup tool and see what it
does in a controlled way when working with a clean version.
If you do not see this behaviour, I suspect it's the backup tool. If so I
apologise for not having realised this was the case.
It’s hard to see how we can track back and see what the origin of these files is. I had a look at the binary and the only other thing it contains is ATTR. So I think it was probably an empty file/folder that got quarantined on a MAC somehow. I do not have a mac or an iphone or an ipad.
I will monitor for any strange files in future and before I do a clean install will test overwriting just to see what going on.
I had a quick look and tried what you suggested and only the file deleted was restored no sign of
any ._xxx files
So I recovered and downloaded ._styles and had a look at it.
It contains Mac.OSX and com.apple.quarantine with a lot of nulls. I assume its probably binary and
looks like it has its origins on a MAC. I do not have binary editor so I cannot be sure what it is.
As this is a UNIX server and I use windows I now do not believe it came from the server or myself.
Let me know if you want to look into this further.
I am not sure where they are coming from! I had assumed it was something to
do with the update process for wikindx but it could also be something to do
with the backup tool I am using. I am working on a siteground server and
using there standard backup tool so in principle I am reinstating the files
and data base as they where when 5.8.1 was installed. I did a quick search
but cannot find any further information. I have not been tracking these
files to be able to comment further.
Perhaps the best thing is to start again with a fresh install, and I will
keep my eye on it next time when I update. That way I can be clear about
what is happening. I can also try to use the backup tool and see what it
does in a controlled way when working with a clean version.
If you do not see this behaviour, I suspect it's the backup tool. If so I
apologise for not having realised this was the case.
It’s hard to see how we can track back and see what the origin of these files is. I had a look at
the binary and the only other thing it contains is ATTR. So I think it was probably an empty
file/folder that got quarantined on a MAC somehow. I do not have a mac or an iphone or an ipad.
I will monitor for any strange files in future and before I do a clean install will test
overwriting just to see what going on.
I had a quick look and tried what you suggested and only the file deleted was restored no sign of
any ._xxx files
So I recovered and downloaded ._styles and had a look at it.
It contains Mac.OSX and com.apple.quarantine with a lot of nulls. I assume its probably binary and
looks like it has its origins on a MAC. I do not have binary editor so I cannot be sure what it is.
As this is a UNIX server and I use windows I now do not believe it came from the server or myself.
Let me know if you want to look into this further.
I am not sure where they are coming from! I had assumed it was something to
do with the update process for wikindx but it could also be something to do
with the backup tool I am using. I am working on a siteground server and
using there standard backup tool so in principle I am reinstating the files
and data base as they where when 5.8.1 was installed. I did a quick search
but cannot find any further information. I have not been tracking these
files to be able to comment further.
Perhaps the best thing is to start again with a fresh install, and I will
keep my eye on it next time when I update. That way I can be clear about
what is happening. I can also try to use the backup tool and see what it
does in a controlled way when working with a clean version.
If you do not see this behaviour, I suspect it's the backup tool. If so I
apologise for not having realised this was the case.
Please ignore my comment about the export it is working fine. I was ticking
If any fields that WIKINDX does not recognise are stored from an original
import, merge these fields into this export:
Not sure why but if I tick that then the xml is empty.
One supplementary question how do I export custom fields? I am assuming I
need to setup a style to do this or at least extend one that's there
already? How does the export utility know which style to use?
Fresh install perfect no glitches. Installs apa style.
Overwriting worked fine with producing some warnings see attached. In
components styles was picking up the old 5.8.1 styles with underscore see
screen shot. If I recall the wikindx style was installed in this case.
I did a bit more testing on 6.0.5 and could not get the Endnote xml to work
properly. It is exporting the header but no resources. I tried both from
list and basket and got the same result. Just to make sure I was using the
right process I also tried RIS and it worked fine
Concerning Patent fields, I would not say I was an expert, but I like to
keep track of the key dates and include Granted date and Application date
which I have as custom fields. I do know a patent attorney and could ask
him if you would like a definitive set of fields.
Glad it's working Roger. Although merging unrecognized fields should not produce a blank output – something for me to look at.
Styles are only for visual formatting (intext citations, refernece list etc.) so have nothing whatsoever to do with exporting.
It's not possible to export custom fields currently. I can work on it but a) I'm not that familiar with Endnote and b) I don't have Endnote for testing. If you're willing to work on it with me, then I need to know the possible fields that the custom fields can be exported to.
Regards,
Mark
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Has it ever been possible to export custom fields? I run two versions of wikindx a master which sits on a PC offline and another version online and I know I was regularly transferring data between the two in the early days but I am not sure if I was using the endnote export facility or dumping the whole data base. It’s been a while since I attempted to do this and I do not really remember.
I know I was definitely using the endnote import facility to import custom fields.
It would be useful to be able to export resources with custom fields via endnote. I do have endnote X7.8 and I am willing to help. I was looking at the endnote dtd last night as it happen and you can find it here https://support.clarivate.com/Endnote/s/article/EndNote-XML-Document-Type-Definition?language=en_US . This was to shorten our import process somewhat as I was thinking about the quickest and easiest way to go from word in essence a csv file to wikindx. I am going to explore excel as away of doing this with an xml schema based on this dtd file. I can off course generate examples for you. Just let me know what you need.
Glad it's working Roger. Although merging unrecognized fields should not produce a blank output – something for me to look at.
Styles are only for visual formatting (intext citations, refernece list etc.) so have nothing whatsoever to do with exporting.
It's not possible to export custom fields currently. I can work on it but a) I'm not that familiar with Endnote and b) I don't have Endnote for testing. If you're willing to work on it with me, then I need to know the possible fields that the custom fields can be exported to.
In SVN, I've fixed the export merge fields checkbox issue – checked or not, resources are exported to XML.
Yes, it's possible to import Endote fields to wikindx custom fields if those latter fields exist but it's never been possible to export wikindx custom fields to endnote. It should be easy enough. I believe Endnote can have 7 custom fields ('custom1' . . . 'custom7') and so I can provide an interface for mapping wikindx custom fields and their data to the Endnote custom fields.
But it would be useful to know if the Endnote user can name their own custom fields or if they are stuck with 'custom1' . . . 'custom7'.
Regards,
Mark
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My understanding is that internally to Endnote they are Custom 1 -7 and they can be mapped to different labels by different styles for different references. When exporting xml at least when I have done it they appear as Custom 1-7 regardless of the template I choose.
In SVN, I've fixed the export merge fields checkbox issue – checked or not, resources are exported to XML.
Yes, it's possible to import Endote fields to wikindx custom fields if those latter fields exist but it's never been possible to export wikindx custom fields to endnote. It should be easy enough. I believe Endnote can have 7 custom fields ('custom1' . . . 'custom7') and so I can provide an interface for mapping wikindx custom fields and their data to the Endnote custom fields.
But it would be useful to know if the Endnote user can name their own custom fields or if they are stuck with 'custom1' . . . 'custom7'.
My understanding is that internally to Endnote they are Custom 1 -7 and they can be mapped to different labels by different styles for different references. When exporting xml at least when I have done it they appear as Custom 1-7 regardless of the template I choose.
In SVN, I've fixed the export merge fields checkbox issue – checked or not, resources are exported to XML.
Yes, it's possible to import Endote fields to wikindx custom fields if those latter fields exist but it's never been possible to export wikindx custom fields to endnote. It should be easy enough. I believe Endnote can have 7 custom fields ('custom1' . . . 'custom7') and so I can provide an interface for mapping wikindx custom fields and their data to the Endnote custom fields.
But it would be useful to know if the Endnote user can name their own custom fields or if they are stuck with 'custom1' . . . 'custom7'.
Glad it's all working. With the information you provided, we'll tidy up the loose ends of the new components system.
Styles are only used for formatting output for resources, bibliographies, and in-text citations (inc. footnote and endote styles).
Perhaps you need the importexport plugin (in the Components area). If you install the Bibutils binaries (https://sourceforge.net/p/bibutils/home/Bibutils/) it would increase your options. I suspect, though, that it does not do what you want as it cannot provide output in Endnote XML. It can provide output in BibTeX but I think it is not a good enough format to import your type of references (patents etc.)
Regards,
Mark
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Hi Mark and Stephane,
After the clean install the reason the resources were not appearing was that that the defauklt wikindx style was not enabled. Furthermore IEEE was not installed or enabled. So bascially there was no style enabled.
Once you have tidied up I would be happy to test again for you on my database if that is useful. It is easy for me to go back to 5.9.1 as there are backups available. Just let me know.
Concerning the custom field for patents I have no idea why this is the case. I can certainly see the patent attorny one is not needed I could not really see a pre-supplied date. I mostly have published date(pre-supplied), Granted Date(Custom ) and Application date(Custom) am I missing something.?
Once we have the fields straight I will reimport and map to teh correct ones as i still have the Endnote XML.
Thanks for all your help yesterday and version 6 looks really nice. I had a good look atteh components part and it works well. I only really tested Styles!
Regards
Roger
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Glad we could get it working. We hope to fix the update/missing style but shortly for the next release.
Re patents, to be perfectly honest, I've little idea what fields should be required. When I was deciding on what fields to give various resources, my weak spot was anything to do with legal documents (hearing, case, patent) and what I did find was cobbled together from various sources and from looking at source files for Endnote and so on. If such things are in your area of expertise, I'd be glad to add them into wikindx.
Re the styles, you can, of course, also edit and create styles with the adminstyles plugin. It can be a long job but if you're only dealing with 3 or 4 types of resources then it can be done quickly. The advantage is that you can then display your patent references etc. with as much or as little information as you want – the styles control the formatting of the resource display.
Regards,
Mark
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In components styles there is only an apa folder no IEEE at all.
I installed and enabled IEEE and it seems to be working fine now. I can confirm IEEE is now in teh components /styles folder!
Let me know if I can be of further help.
Just as an aside are styles only used for formatting output or can they be used for input?
I previously has a fairly tortuous route to import a csv file(csv->RIS- >Endnote XML-> wikindx) and if I could write my own style that would solve that problem.
Thaks for your help it is very much appreciated.
Regards
Roger
Hi Roger,
If you're offering help, it would be great to know if the v5.x database you have is correctly upgraded with the new 6.0.5 code released last night. We can't reproduce your issues but think we have fixed them.
Regards,
Mark
Hi Mark,
Happy to do this for you. Presumably with a clean install or would you like
me to also test with overwriting 5.9.1.
Regards
Roger
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From: Mark Grimshaw sirfragalot@users.sourceforge.net
Sent: 28 January 2020 09:06
To: [wikindx:discussion] 326884@discussion.wikindx.p.re.sourceforge.net
Subject: [wikindx:discussion] Re: Upgrade 5.8.2 to 5.9.1
Hi Roger,
If you're offering help, it would be great to know if the v5.x database you
have is correctly upgraded with the new 6.0.5 code released last night. We
can't reproduce your issues but think we have fixed them.
Regards,
Mark
Upgrade 5.8.2 to 5.9.1
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Thanks Roger,
If you could do both and report back on both, that would be fantastic.
Regards,
Mark
Hi Mark,
Tested as requested.
Fresh install perfect no glitches. Installs apa style.
Overwriting worked fine with producing some warnings see attached. In
components styles was picking up the old 5.8.1 styles with underscore see
screen shot. If I recall the wikindx style was installed in this case.
I did a bit more testing on 6.0.5 and could not get the Endnote xml to work
properly. It is exporting the header but no resources. I tried both from
list and basket and got the same result. Just to make sure I was using the
right process I also tried RIS and it worked fine
Concerning Patent fields, I would not say I was an expert, but I like to
keep track of the key dates and include Granted date and Application date
which I have as custom fields. I do know a patent attorney and could ask
him if you would like a definitive set of fields.
Regards
Roger
From: Mark Grimshaw sirfragalot@users.sourceforge.net
Sent: 28 January 2020 10:23
To: [wikindx:discussion] 326884@discussion.wikindx.p.re.sourceforge.net
Subject: [wikindx:discussion] Re: Upgrade 5.8.2 to 5.9.1
Thanks Roger,
If you could do both and report back on both, that would be fantastic.
Regards,
Mark
Upgrade 5.8.2 to 5.9.1
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Hi Roger,
These folders "._XXX" must not be there. Where they come from?
From a previous install or from the archive?
If from the archive, what archive format, what unarchiver, what OS do you use?
Regards,
Hi Stephane,
I am not sure where they are coming from! I had assumed it was something to
do with the update process for wikindx but it could also be something to do
with the backup tool I am using. I am working on a siteground server and
using there standard backup tool so in principle I am reinstating the files
and data base as they where when 5.8.1 was installed. I did a quick search
but cannot find any further information. I have not been tracking these
files to be able to comment further.
Perhaps the best thing is to start again with a fresh install, and I will
keep my eye on it next time when I update. That way I can be clear about
what is happening. I can also try to use the backup tool and see what it
does in a controlled way when working with a clean version.
If you do not see this behaviour, I suspect its the backup tool. If so I
apologise for not having realised this was the case.
Regards
Roger
From: "Stéphane Aulery" lkppo@users.sourceforge.net
Sent: 29 January 2020 10:42
To: [wikindx:discussion] 326884@discussion.wikindx.p.re.sourceforge.net
Subject: [wikindx:discussion] Re: Upgrade 5.8.2 to 5.9.1
Hi Roger,
These folders "._XXX" must not be there. Where they come from?
From a previous install or from the archive?
If from the archive, what archive format, what unarchiver, what OS do you
use?
Regards,
Upgrade 5.8.2 to 5.9.1
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Delete one of these folders and restore from you backup, you will now immediatly.
@mark, I pushed a quick fix (untested) but more migration scripts need a rewrite.
29 janvier 2020 12:49 "Roger Appleby" rogerapp@users.sourceforge.net a écrit:
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Stéphane Aulery
Hi Stephane,
I had a quick look and tried what you suggested and only the file deleted was restored no sign of any ._xxx files
So I recovered and downloaded ._styles and had a look at it.
It contains Mac.OSX and com.apple.quarantine with a lot of nulls. I assume its probably binary and looks like it has its origins on a MAC. I do not have binary editor so I cannot be sure what it is.
As this is a UNIX server and I use windows I now do not believe it came from the server or myself.
Let me know if you want to look into this further.
Regards
Roger
From: "Stéphane Aulery" lkppo@users.sourceforge.net
Sent: 29 January 2020 13:19
To: [wikindx:discussion] 326884@discussion.wikindx.p.re.sourceforge.net
Subject: [wikindx:discussion] Re: Upgrade 5.8.2 to 5.9.1
Delete one of these folders and restore from you backup, you will now immediatly.
@mark https://sourceforge.net/u/mark/ , I pushed a quick fix (untested) but more migration scripts need a rewrite.
29 janvier 2020 12:49 "Roger Appleby" rogerapp@users.sourceforge.net rogerapp@users.sourceforge.net a écrit:
Hi Stephane,
I am not sure where they are coming from! I had assumed it was something to
do with the update process for wikindx but it could also be something to do
with the backup tool I am using. I am working on a siteground server and
using there standard backup tool so in principle I am reinstating the files
and data base as they where when 5.8.1 was installed. I did a quick search
but cannot find any further information. I have not been tracking these
files to be able to comment further.
Perhaps the best thing is to start again with a fresh install, and I will
keep my eye on it next time when I update. That way I can be clear about
what is happening. I can also try to use the backup tool and see what it
does in a controlled way when working with a clean version.
If you do not see this behaviour, I suspect it's the backup tool. If so I
apologise for not having realised this was the case.
Regards
Roger
From: "Stéphane Aulery" lkppo@users.sourceforge.net lkppo@users.sourceforge.net
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Subject: [wikindx:discussion] Re: Upgrade 5.8.2 to 5.9.1
Hi Roger,
These folders "._XXX" must not be there. Where they come from?
From a previous install or from the archive?
If from the archive, what archive format, what unarchiver, what OS do you
use?
Regards,
Upgrade 5.8.2 to 5.9.1
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Could these links help?
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/104712/what-causes-os-x-to-mark-a-folder-as-quarantined
https://superuser.com/questions/28384/what-should-i-do-about-com-apple-quarantine
Is you server a macOS?
To know, run the command "uname -a" in a cli/terminal of the server or use the uname PHP function:
https://www.php.net/manual/fr/function.php-uname.php
29 janvier 2020 17:17 "Roger Appleby" rogerapp@users.sourceforge.net a écrit:
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I had seen the second link but not the first.
I can see the server is LINUX form php info.
It’s hard to see how we can track back and see what the origin of these files is. I had a look at the binary and the only other thing it contains is ATTR. So I think it was probably an empty file/folder that got quarantined on a MAC somehow. I do not have a mac or an iphone or an ipad.
I will monitor for any strange files in future and before I do a clean install will test overwriting just to see what going on.
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Could these links help?
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/104712/what-causes-os-x-to-mark-a-folder-as-quarantined
https://superuser.com/questions/28384/what-should-i-do-about-com-apple-quarantine
Is you server a macOS?
To know, run the command "uname -a" in a cli/terminal of the server or use the uname PHP function:
https://www.php.net/manual/fr/function.php-uname.php
29 janvier 2020 17:17 "Roger Appleby" rogerapp@users.sourceforge.net rogerapp@users.sourceforge.net a écrit:
Hi Stephane,
I had a quick look and tried what you suggested and only the file deleted was restored no sign of
any ._xxx files
So I recovered and downloaded ._styles and had a look at it.
It contains Mac.OSX and com.apple.quarantine with a lot of nulls. I assume its probably binary and
looks like it has its origins on a MAC. I do not have binary editor so I cannot be sure what it is.
As this is a UNIX server and I use windows I now do not believe it came from the server or myself.
Let me know if you want to look into this further.
Regards
Roger
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Delete one of these folders and restore from you backup, you will now immediatly.
@mark https://sourceforge.net/u/mark/ https://sourceforge.net/u/mark , I pushed a quick fix (untested) but more migration scripts
need a rewrite.
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Hi Stephane,
I am not sure where they are coming from! I had assumed it was something to
do with the update process for wikindx but it could also be something to do
with the backup tool I am using. I am working on a siteground server and
using there standard backup tool so in principle I am reinstating the files
and data base as they where when 5.8.1 was installed. I did a quick search
but cannot find any further information. I have not been tracking these
files to be able to comment further.
Perhaps the best thing is to start again with a fresh install, and I will
keep my eye on it next time when I update. That way I can be clear about
what is happening. I can also try to use the backup tool and see what it
does in a controlled way when working with a clean version.
If you do not see this behaviour, I suspect it's the backup tool. If so I
apologise for not having realised this was the case.
Regards
Roger
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Hi Roger,
These folders "._XXX" must not be there. Where they come from?
From a previous install or from the archive?
If from the archive, what archive format, what unarchiver, what OS do you
use?
Regards,
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If these files are in your backup, they could come from an older release of Wikindx because Mark use a Mac.
I did last release (since 5.9.1) from Windows.
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Thanks for testing Roger.
I'll let Stéphane deal with the spurious folders issue.
Re the Endnote XML export, it all works for me. Can you turn on error reporting and tell me if there are any messages?
Regards,
Mark
Mark,
Please ignore my comment about the export it is working fine. I was ticking
If any fields that WIKINDX does not recognise are stored from an original
import, merge these fields into this export:
Not sure why but if I tick that then the xml is empty.
One supplementary question how do I export custom fields? I am assuming I
need to setup a style to do this or at least extend one that's there
already? How does the export utility know which style to use?
Regards
Roger
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Hi Mark,
Tested as requested.
Fresh install perfect no glitches. Installs apa style.
Overwriting worked fine with producing some warnings see attached. In
components styles was picking up the old 5.8.1 styles with underscore see
screen shot. If I recall the wikindx style was installed in this case.
I did a bit more testing on 6.0.5 and could not get the Endnote xml to work
properly. It is exporting the header but no resources. I tried both from
list and basket and got the same result. Just to make sure I was using the
right process I also tried RIS and it worked fine
Concerning Patent fields, I would not say I was an expert, but I like to
keep track of the key dates and include Granted date and Application date
which I have as custom fields. I do know a patent attorney and could ask
him if you would like a definitive set of fields.
Regards
Roger
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Thanks Roger,
If you could do both and report back on both, that would be fantastic.
Regards,
Mark
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Glad it's working Roger. Although merging unrecognized fields should not produce a blank output – something for me to look at.
Styles are only for visual formatting (intext citations, refernece list etc.) so have nothing whatsoever to do with exporting.
It's not possible to export custom fields currently. I can work on it but a) I'm not that familiar with Endnote and b) I don't have Endnote for testing. If you're willing to work on it with me, then I need to know the possible fields that the custom fields can be exported to.
Regards,
Mark
Hi Mark,
Has it ever been possible to export custom fields? I run two versions of wikindx a master which sits on a PC offline and another version online and I know I was regularly transferring data between the two in the early days but I am not sure if I was using the endnote export facility or dumping the whole data base. It’s been a while since I attempted to do this and I do not really remember.
I know I was definitely using the endnote import facility to import custom fields.
It would be useful to be able to export resources with custom fields via endnote. I do have endnote X7.8 and I am willing to help. I was looking at the endnote dtd last night as it happen and you can find it here https://support.clarivate.com/Endnote/s/article/EndNote-XML-Document-Type-Definition?language=en_US . This was to shorten our import process somewhat as I was thinking about the quickest and easiest way to go from word in essence a csv file to wikindx. I am going to explore excel as away of doing this with an xml schema based on this dtd file. I can off course generate examples for you. Just let me know what you need.
Regards
Roger
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Glad it's working Roger. Although merging unrecognized fields should not produce a blank output – something for me to look at.
Styles are only for visual formatting (intext citations, refernece list etc.) so have nothing whatsoever to do with exporting.
It's not possible to export custom fields currently. I can work on it but a) I'm not that familiar with Endnote and b) I don't have Endnote for testing. If you're willing to work on it with me, then I need to know the possible fields that the custom fields can be exported to.
Regards,
Mark
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Hi Roger,
In SVN, I've fixed the export merge fields checkbox issue – checked or not, resources are exported to XML.
Yes, it's possible to import Endote fields to wikindx custom fields if those latter fields exist but it's never been possible to export wikindx custom fields to endnote. It should be easy enough. I believe Endnote can have 7 custom fields ('custom1' . . . 'custom7') and so I can provide an interface for mapping wikindx custom fields and their data to the Endnote custom fields.
But it would be useful to know if the Endnote user can name their own custom fields or if they are stuck with 'custom1' . . . 'custom7'.
Regards,
Mark
Hi Mark,
My understanding is that internally to Endnote they are Custom 1 -7 and they can be mapped to different labels by different styles for different references. When exporting xml at least when I have done it they appear as Custom 1-7 regardless of the template I choose.
I have just tried to check if endnote uses custom fields for any reference types. The best I can find is this http://libguides.utoledo.edu/c.php?g=284330 http://libguides.utoledo.edu/c.php?g=284330&p=1895352 &p=1895352 (this is for X9 but its probably the same) which indicates custom 1 is used but the others are not.
Hope that helps.
Regards
Roger
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Hi Roger,
In SVN, I've fixed the export merge fields checkbox issue – checked or not, resources are exported to XML.
Yes, it's possible to import Endote fields to wikindx custom fields if those latter fields exist but it's never been possible to export wikindx custom fields to endnote. It should be easy enough. I believe Endnote can have 7 custom fields ('custom1' . . . 'custom7') and so I can provide an interface for mapping wikindx custom fields and their data to the Endnote custom fields.
But it would be useful to know if the Endnote user can name their own custom fields or if they are stuck with 'custom1' . . . 'custom7'.
Regards,
Mark
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Thanks Roger,
I’ll see what I can rustle up tomorrow.
Regards,
Mark
Hi Roger,
Glad it's all working. With the information you provided, we'll tidy up the loose ends of the new components system.
Styles are only used for formatting output for resources, bibliographies, and in-text citations (inc. footnote and endote styles).
Perhaps you need the importexport plugin (in the Components area). If you install the Bibutils binaries (https://sourceforge.net/p/bibutils/home/Bibutils/) it would increase your options. I suspect, though, that it does not do what you want as it cannot provide output in Endnote XML. It can provide output in BibTeX but I think it is not a good enough format to import your type of references (patents etc.)
Regards,
Mark
Hi Mark and Stephane,
After the clean install the reason the resources were not appearing was that that the defauklt wikindx style was not enabled. Furthermore IEEE was not installed or enabled. So bascially there was no style enabled.
Once you have tidied up I would be happy to test again for you on my database if that is useful. It is easy for me to go back to 5.9.1 as there are backups available. Just let me know.
Concerning the custom field for patents I have no idea why this is the case. I can certainly see the patent attorny one is not needed I could not really see a pre-supplied date. I mostly have published date(pre-supplied), Granted Date(Custom ) and Application date(Custom) am I missing something.?
Once we have the fields straight I will reimport and map to teh correct ones as i still have the Endnote XML.
Thanks for all your help yesterday and version 6 looks really nice. I had a good look atteh components part and it works well. I only really tested Styles!
Regards
Roger
Hi Roger,
Glad we could get it working. We hope to fix the update/missing style but shortly for the next release.
Re patents, to be perfectly honest, I've little idea what fields should be required. When I was deciding on what fields to give various resources, my weak spot was anything to do with legal documents (hearing, case, patent) and what I did find was cobbled together from various sources and from looking at source files for Endnote and so on. If such things are in your area of expertise, I'd be glad to add them into wikindx.
Re the styles, you can, of course, also edit and create styles with the adminstyles plugin. It can be a long job but if you're only dealing with 3 or 4 types of resources then it can be done quickly. The advantage is that you can then display your patent references etc. with as much or as little information as you want – the styles control the formatting of the resource display.
Regards,
Mark