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From: Ivo v. D. <ivo...@gm...> - 2007-09-14 10:54:09
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Btw. Is there a demo deploy planned for today? I would love to see Sjoerds design and the lastminute enhancements I made to come online. On 9/14/07, Ivo van Dongen <ivo...@gm...> wrote: > > > > On 9/14/07, Mattijs Hoitink <ma...@fu...> wrote: > > > > > > The bootstrap is only meant for development purposes. This should not > > be included in the release. A maven profile should be created specifically > > for the releases, here these kinds of issues can be addressed (by not > > including the bootstrap spring configuration) > > > > I will strip the bootstrap from the release as it is not needed. I > > already created a build target "release" that excludes it. See last commit. > > > > 2. The /app/configuration URL is protected by admin:admin u:p. > > > - how about telling the installer to change those default values? > > > > > > This is a side effect of the bootstrap bean. If the bootstrap bean is > > not included the firstrunwizard is shown and the administrator must fill in > > those details himself. > > > > This is the correct way to do it i think. > > > > > > 3. Split the README authentication section in: > > > - MySQL container managed > > > - LDAP container managed (only refer to the Webical wiki, since this > > > probably won't be the most used config. please ask Thijs to place his > > > notes there) > > > > > The readme assuemes you are using MySQL for authentication. Altering > > the authentication method is covered by comments in the webical.xmlfile. > > > > Did I mis something? What is the webical.xml file? > > 4. Split up the README database section in: > > > - webical db config, with a webical-bootstrap.sql > > > - if applicable: webical auth config, with a webical-auth.sql (by > > > default use the same database as webical db. > > > > > > The database tables are generated by webical itself if they don't > > exist, so a webical-bootstrap.sql is not needed. The user only needs to > > create authentication tables if he/she wants to use MySQL as authentication > > for Tomcat. The readme assumes this is so, so the user has to execute > > auth_setup.sql. > > Changing the authentication method for tomcat is specified in the readme > > and the webical.xml file. > > > > Hmm, don't know if this is the preferred way. I checked the current config > and the SessionFactory is set to create the database indeed. This does mean > that with every redeploy all data is lost... I don't think this will be > appreciated to much :) > > 5. Are the README, webical.xml, and *.sql in subversion? if not, please > > > put them there. > > > > > I will create a docs directory to put documentation in. > > > > > > > 6. The default u/p for accessing (webical:webical) the database are > > > not > > > mentioned in te README. Please mention what u/p you assume, and what > > > rights to the database it should have. > > > > > Done. The readme assumes you have a database 'webical' at localhost, > > with webical/webical as u/p > > > > Do you think we should ship with default u/p/dbname values or should > > > everything be explicitly filled out? > > > > > I think shipping with a default will be easier. With the defaults, the > > application can be deployed without editing any files. > > The readme mentions that it is possible to edit the u/p values. What > > parameters can be changed is covered by the files itself. > > > > Like we talked about; I don't think this is a good idea. It's indeed > simpler for first-time usage, but this does pose a nice security hole. > You'll see that people are not inclined to changed the defaults after > everything is setup and this leaves a lot of webical instances (assuming > interest will pick up :)) with a default user/password... > > > cheers, > > > > mattijs > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Webical-developers mailing list > > Web...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers > > > > > > > -- > Ivo van Dongen > Func. Internet Integration > W http://www.func.nl > T +31 20 4230000 > F +31 20 4223500 > -- Ivo van Dongen Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 |
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From: Ivo v. D. <ivo...@gm...> - 2007-09-14 10:39:38
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On 9/14/07, Mattijs Hoitink <ma...@fu...> wrote: > > > The bootstrap is only meant for development purposes. This should not be > included in the release. A maven profile should be created specifically for > the releases, here these kinds of issues can be addressed (by not including > the bootstrap spring configuration) > > I will strip the bootstrap from the release as it is not needed. I already > created a build target "release" that excludes it. See last commit. > > 2. The /app/configuration URL is protected by admin:admin u:p. > > - how about telling the installer to change those default values? > > > This is a side effect of the bootstrap bean. If the bootstrap bean is not > included the firstrunwizard is shown and the administrator must fill in > those details himself. > > This is the correct way to do it i think. > > > 3. Split the README authentication section in: > > - MySQL container managed > > - LDAP container managed (only refer to the Webical wiki, since this > > probably won't be the most used config. please ask Thijs to place his > > notes there) > > > The readme assuemes you are using MySQL for authentication. Altering the > authentication method is covered by comments in the webical.xml file. > Did I mis something? What is the webical.xml file? 4. Split up the README database section in: > > - webical db config, with a webical-bootstrap.sql > > - if applicable: webical auth config, with a webical-auth.sql (by > > default use the same database as webical db. > > > > The database tables are generated by webical itself if they don't > exist, so a webical-bootstrap.sql is not needed. The user only needs to > create authentication tables if he/she wants to use MySQL as authentication > for Tomcat. The readme assumes this is so, so the user has to execute > auth_setup.sql. > Changing the authentication method for tomcat is specified in the readme > and the webical.xml file. > Hmm, don't know if this is the preferred way. I checked the current config and the SessionFactory is set to create the database indeed. This does mean that with every redeploy all data is lost... I don't think this will be appreciated to much :) 5. Are the README, webical.xml, and *.sql in subversion? if not, please > > put them there. > > > I will create a docs directory to put documentation in. > > > > 6. The default u/p for accessing (webical:webical) the database are not > > mentioned in te README. Please mention what u/p you assume, and what > > rights to the database it should have. > > > Done. The readme assumes you have a database 'webical' at localhost, with > webical/webical as u/p > > Do you think we should ship with default u/p/dbname values or should > > everything be explicitly filled out? > > > I think shipping with a default will be easier. With the defaults, the > application can be deployed without editing any files. > The readme mentions that it is possible to edit the u/p values. What > parameters can be changed is covered by the files itself. > Like we talked about; I don't think this is a good idea. It's indeed simpler for first-time usage, but this does pose a nice security hole. You'll see that people are not inclined to changed the defaults after everything is setup and this leaves a lot of webical instances (assuming interest will pick up :)) with a default user/password... cheers, > > mattijs > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Webical-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers > > -- Ivo van Dongen Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 |
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From: Mattijs H. <ma...@fu...> - 2007-09-14 10:18:50
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> The bootstrap is only meant for development purposes. This should not > be included in the release. A maven profile should be created > specifically for the releases, here these kinds of issues can be > addressed (by not including the bootstrap spring configuration) I will strip the bootstrap from the release as it is not needed. I already created a build target "release" that excludes it. See last commit. > > 2. The /app/configuration URL is protected by admin:admin u:p. > - how about telling the installer to change those default values? > > > This is a side effect of the bootstrap bean. If the bootstrap bean is > not included the firstrunwizard is shown and the administrator must > fill in those details himself. This is the correct way to do it i think. > > 3. Split the README authentication section in: > - MySQL container managed > - LDAP container managed (only refer to the Webical wiki, since this > probably won't be the most used config. please ask Thijs to place his > notes there) > The readme assuemes you are using MySQL for authentication. Altering the authentication method is covered by comments in the webical.xml file. > > > 4. Split up the README database section in: > - webical db config, with a webical-bootstrap.sql > - if applicable: webical auth config, with a webical-auth.sql (by > default use the same database as webical db. > The database tables are generated by webical itself if they don't exist, so a webical-bootstrap.sql is not needed. The user only needs to create authentication tables if he/she wants to use MySQL as authentication for Tomcat. The readme assumes this is so, so the user has to execute auth_setup.sql. Changing the authentication method for tomcat is specified in the readme and the webical.xml file. > > 5. Are the README, webical.xml, and *.sql in subversion? if not, > please > put them there. > I will create a docs directory to put documentation in. > > > 6. The default u/p for accessing (webical:webical) the database > are not > mentioned in te README. Please mention what u/p you assume, and what > rights to the database it should have. > Done. The readme assumes you have a database 'webical' at localhost, with webical/webical as u/p > > Do you think we should ship with default u/p/dbname values or should > everything be explicitly filled out? > I think shipping with a default will be easier. With the defaults, the application can be deployed without editing any files. The readme mentions that it is possible to edit the u/p values. What parameters can be changed is covered by the files itself. cheers, mattijs |
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From: Ivo v. D. <ivo...@gm...> - 2007-09-14 09:19:28
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On 9/14/07, Zoran Kovacevic <zo...@fu...> wrote: > > I still have some remarks though :) > > 1. Bootstrap stuff: after a restart the database is reset to its > original state (all added calendars and settings are gone). This should > be fixed before 0.2 release. > - how about adding a bootstrap SQL that the installer (person) needs to > run? The bootstrap is only meant for development purposes. This should not be included in the release. A maven profile should be created specifically for the releases, here these kinds of issues can be addressed (by not including the bootstrap spring configuration) 2. The /app/configuration URL is protected by admin:admin u:p. > - how about telling the installer to change those default values? This is a side effect of the bootstrap bean. If the bootstrap bean is not included the firstrunwizard is shown and the administrator must fill in those details himself. 3. Split the README authentication section in: > - MySQL container managed > - LDAP container managed (only refer to the Webical wiki, since this > probably won't be the most used config. please ask Thijs to place his > notes there) > > 4. Split up the README database section in: > - webical db config, with a webical-bootstrap.sql > - if applicable: webical auth config, with a webical-auth.sql (by > default use the same database as webical db. > > 5. Are the README, webical.xml, and *.sql in subversion? if not, please > put them there. > > 6. The default u/p for accessing (webical:webical) the database are not > mentioned in te README. Please mention what u/p you assume, and what > rights to the database it should have. > > 7. You forgot to mention to put the webical.war in tomcat/webapps ;) > > Do you think we should ship with default u/p/dbname values or should > everything be explicitly filled out? > > I have attached the files from the 0.2 RC (excluding webical.war since > it is too big) for reference for others. > > Perhaps you can dump the next RC on some (tmp) webspace for download for > others to preview/test? > > Best, Zoran > > Zoran Kovacevic wrote: > > I have just tested your 0.2 preview and it is great. I am amazed with > > the new template, had not seen it before! > > > > Enough styling to be done, but very nice for a 0.2 release. > > > > Go go go! > > > > Mattijs Hoitink wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Well, after a lot of testing today, i finished packaging the release > 0.2 > >> :) The package contains the new Webical style and i wrote a readme with > >> install instructions. > >> After some dog food eating > >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_one%27s_own_dog_food, a lesson > from > >> Zoran :) ) and of course some serious final testing, i will hopefully > be > >> releasing it tomorrow. > >> > >> The people who follow the wiki may have noticed i added a fifth > >> increment to the project > >> (http://www.webical.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/Developers#Increment_V). I > >> hope to start the first Ajax POC tomorrow, if school doesn't pull me > >> away from coding with their paperwork :( > >> > >> cheers, > >> > >> Mattijs > >> > >> > >> > >> Zoran Kovacevic wrote: > >>>> file for the basepage where the link is hidden. Stating that the > >>>> ajax-part suck goes a bit far by the way :) > >>>> > >>> hehehe > >>> > >>> > >>>> 4. Do a webical-0.3 AJAX version somewhere in the next 2-3 months > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Would this be the complete ajax version or do we want an intermediate > >>>> release as well? > >>>> > >>> depends on how fast Mattijs goes ;) > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> Mattijs Hoitink > >> Func. Internet Integration > >> W http://www.func.nl > >> T +31 20 4230000 > >> F +31 20 4223500 > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Webical-developers mailing list > >> Web...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers > > > > > > > -- > Zoran Kovacevic > Func. Internet Integration > W http://www.func.nl > M +31 6 48104284 > T +31 20 4230000 > F +31 20 4223500 > GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... > > Webical 0.2 Release README > > 1. Version information > This is the readme for Webical release 0.2. This is a special release, > sadly without Ajax support. > Ajax support will be released in version 0.3. > > This version has a few functionality improvements and a furthermore a new > style. See http://www.webical.org for more information. > > 2. Requirements > - Java 1.5 (or higher) > - Tomcat 5.5 > - MySql 5 > - MySql-connector-j (http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/connector/j/) > > 3. Installation > This readme assumes that MySql is running at localhost:3306, tomcat is > running at http://localhost:8080 and you install everything by default. > > 3.1 Setting up the database: > You need 2 databases to run Webical: > One database for Webical to cache the calendar data and one database for > the Tomcat authentication realm (this can be changed to LDAP, see > http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/realm-howto.html) > > - Log into the database and run DB_setup.sql > This script will create the databases `auth` and `webical` for you, and > registers the first user. > If you want to change the user credentials, alter this script. See > DB_setup.sql for more infomation > > - Create a database user that has at least SELECT, UPDATE, DELETE, ALTER, > INDEX, CREATE and DROP access to the databases. > > 3.2 Setting up tomcat: > - Copy webical.xml to 'tomcat/conf/Catalina/localhost/webical.xml' > !! If you changed the DB_setup.sql script, please edit webical.xml as > well !! > - Extract and copy the MySql-connector-j to 'tomcat/common/lib/' > > 3.3 Configure Webical > (Re)Start tomcat and visit http://localhost:8080/webical/. You can > configure webical by visiting /app/configuration. > A default configuration is set by the installer. > > > Your done! > Visit http://localhost:8080/webical/calendar and login with > webical/webical. > > For more information see > http://www.webical.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToInstallWebical > > > > -- *********************************************** > -- > -- Setup for the Webical databases > -- > -- *********************************************** > > -- > -- > > > -- > -- create the table to hold the auth users > -- > > CREATE TABLE `_auth_user` ( > `username` varchar(250) NOT NULL, > `userpass` varchar(250) NOT NULL, > PRIMARY KEY (`username`) > ) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1; > > -- create the table to hold the auth user roles > CREATE TABLE `_auth_userrole` ( > `username` varchar(250) NOT NULL, > `role` varchar(250) NOT NULL, > PRIMARY KEY (`username`,`role`) > ) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1; > > -- **************************************** > -- Create a new user. > -- Change these values if you want to use a different username and > password > -- **************************************** > INSERT INTO _auth_user (username, userpass) VALUES ("webical", "webical"); > > -- **************************************** > -- Create a new usergroup > -- > -- note: if you change the userrole in something else than webicaluser, > -- make sure you change the <role-name> in > tomcat/webapps/webical/WEB-INF/web.xml > -- > -- **************************************** > INSERT INTO _auth_userrole (username, role) VALUES ("webical", > "webicaluser"); > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Webical-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers > > > -- Ivo van Dongen Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 |
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From: Ivo v. D. <ivo...@gm...> - 2007-09-14 09:14:46
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Nice, wonder if he has the code for it published somewhere. On 9/14/07, Zoran Kovacevic <zo...@fu...> wrote: > > FYI an iCalendar validator: http://severinghaus.org/projects/icv/ > > -- > Zoran Kovacevic > Func. Internet Integration > W http://www.func.nl > M +31 6 48104284 > T +31 20 4230000 > F +31 20 4223500 > GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Webical-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers > -- Ivo van Dongen Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 |
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From: Zoran K. <zo...@fu...> - 2007-09-14 07:52:44
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I still have some remarks though :) 1. Bootstrap stuff: after a restart the database is reset to its original state (all added calendars and settings are gone). This should be fixed before 0.2 release. - how about adding a bootstrap SQL that the installer (person) needs to run? 2. The /app/configuration URL is protected by admin:admin u:p. - how about telling the installer to change those default values? 3. Split the README authentication section in: - MySQL container managed - LDAP container managed (only refer to the Webical wiki, since this probably won't be the most used config. please ask Thijs to place his notes there) 4. Split up the README database section in: - webical db config, with a webical-bootstrap.sql - if applicable: webical auth config, with a webical-auth.sql (by default use the same database as webical db. 5. Are the README, webical.xml, and *.sql in subversion? if not, please put them there. 6. The default u/p for accessing (webical:webical) the database are not mentioned in te README. Please mention what u/p you assume, and what rights to the database it should have. 7. You forgot to mention to put the webical.war in tomcat/webapps ;) Do you think we should ship with default u/p/dbname values or should everything be explicitly filled out? I have attached the files from the 0.2 RC (excluding webical.war since it is too big) for reference for others. Perhaps you can dump the next RC on some (tmp) webspace for download for others to preview/test? Best, Zoran Zoran Kovacevic wrote: > I have just tested your 0.2 preview and it is great. I am amazed with > the new template, had not seen it before! > > Enough styling to be done, but very nice for a 0.2 release. > > Go go go! > > Mattijs Hoitink wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Well, after a lot of testing today, i finished packaging the release 0.2 >> :) The package contains the new Webical style and i wrote a readme with >> install instructions. >> After some dog food eating >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_one%27s_own_dog_food, a lesson from >> Zoran :) ) and of course some serious final testing, i will hopefully be >> releasing it tomorrow. >> >> The people who follow the wiki may have noticed i added a fifth >> increment to the project >> (http://www.webical.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/Developers#Increment_V). I >> hope to start the first Ajax POC tomorrow, if school doesn't pull me >> away from coding with their paperwork :( >> >> cheers, >> >> Mattijs >> >> >> >> Zoran Kovacevic wrote: >>>> file for the basepage where the link is hidden. Stating that the >>>> ajax-part suck goes a bit far by the way :) >>>> >>> hehehe >>> >>> >>>> 4. Do a webical-0.3 AJAX version somewhere in the next 2-3 months >>>> >>>> >>>> Would this be the complete ajax version or do we want an intermediate >>>> release as well? >>>> >>> depends on how fast Mattijs goes ;) >>> >>> >> -- >> Mattijs Hoitink >> Func. Internet Integration >> W http://www.func.nl >> T +31 20 4230000 >> F +31 20 4223500 >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Webical-developers mailing list >> Web...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers > > -- Zoran Kovacevic Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl M +31 6 48104284 T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... |
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From: Zoran K. <zo...@fu...> - 2007-09-14 06:57:09
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FYI an iCalendar validator: http://severinghaus.org/projects/icv/ -- Zoran Kovacevic Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl M +31 6 48104284 T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... |
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From: Zoran K. <zo...@fu...> - 2007-09-13 15:24:15
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I have just tested your 0.2 preview and it is great. I am amazed with the new template, had not seen it before! Enough styling to be done, but very nice for a 0.2 release. Go go go! Mattijs Hoitink wrote: > Hi all, > > Well, after a lot of testing today, i finished packaging the release 0.2 > :) The package contains the new Webical style and i wrote a readme with > install instructions. > After some dog food eating > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_one%27s_own_dog_food, a lesson from > Zoran :) ) and of course some serious final testing, i will hopefully be > releasing it tomorrow. > > The people who follow the wiki may have noticed i added a fifth > increment to the project > (http://www.webical.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/Developers#Increment_V). I > hope to start the first Ajax POC tomorrow, if school doesn't pull me > away from coding with their paperwork :( > > cheers, > > Mattijs > > > > Zoran Kovacevic wrote: >>> file for the basepage where the link is hidden. Stating that the >>> ajax-part suck goes a bit far by the way :) >>> >> >> hehehe >> >> >>> 4. Do a webical-0.3 AJAX version somewhere in the next 2-3 months >>> >>> >>> Would this be the complete ajax version or do we want an intermediate >>> release as well? >>> >> >> depends on how fast Mattijs goes ;) >> >> > > -- > Mattijs Hoitink > Func. Internet Integration > W http://www.func.nl > T +31 20 4230000 > F +31 20 4223500 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Webical-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers -- Zoran Kovacevic Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl M +31 6 48104284 T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... |
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From: Mattijs H. <ma...@fu...> - 2007-09-13 14:51:56
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Hi all, Well, after a lot of testing today, i finished packaging the release 0.2 :) The package contains the new Webical style and i wrote a readme with install instructions. After some dog food eating (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_one%27s_own_dog_food, a lesson from Zoran :) ) and of course some serious final testing, i will hopefully be releasing it tomorrow. The people who follow the wiki may have noticed i added a fifth increment to the project (http://www.webical.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/Developers#Increment_V). I hope to start the first Ajax POC tomorrow, if school doesn't pull me away from coding with their paperwork :( cheers, Mattijs Zoran Kovacevic wrote: >> file for the basepage where the link is hidden. Stating that the >> ajax-part suck goes a bit far by the way :) >> > > hehehe > > >> 4. Do a webical-0.3 AJAX version somewhere in the next 2-3 months >> >> >> Would this be the complete ajax version or do we want an intermediate >> release as well? >> > > depends on how fast Mattijs goes ;) > > -- Mattijs Hoitink Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 |
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From: Zoran K. <zo...@fu...> - 2007-09-12 16:08:30
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> file for the basepage where the link is hidden. Stating that the > ajax-part suck goes a bit far by the way :) hehehe > 4. Do a webical-0.3 AJAX version somewhere in the next 2-3 months > > > Would this be the complete ajax version or do we want an intermediate > release as well? depends on how fast Mattijs goes ;) -- Zoran Kovacevic Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl M +31 6 48104284 T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... |
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From: Ivo v. D. <ivo...@gm...> - 2007-09-12 16:05:09
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On 9/12/07, Zoran Kovacevic <zo...@fu...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > There are some things that IMO need to be done in order to get this > whole Webical thing going again: > > 1. Development time: well, that's taken care of with our new intern > Mattijs :) Yeah, go go go! 2. Do a (non-AJAX) webical-0.2 stable release ASAP. This release should > be dead-easy to install (for anyone with a little MySQL and Tomcat > experience). By removing the 'Enable ajax (expirimental)'-link we can > prevent people from thinking the app sucks ... everyone clicks that link > :( > The AJAX part sucks - that's true - but the accessible version really > works! > For Func. this will be a dog food release (webical.func.nl anyone?) Good idea. Hiding the link could be as simple as creating a new maven profile (just like the one for the demo site) with an different html file for the basepage where the link is hidden. Stating that the ajax-part suck goes a bit far by the way :) 3. Spread the webical-0.2-stable-word everywhere and 'tease' with the > coming AJAX/plugin version > > 4. Do a webical-0.3 AJAX version somewhere in the next 2-3 months Would this be the complete ajax version or do we want an intermediate release as well? 5. Do a first (Weather? OpenProjectServices? Rememberthemilk?) plugin > release a month after that Cool. Another option would be a nice google maps integration. There has been some renewed activity in the gmap2 wicket-stuff project<https://wicket-stuff.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wicket-stuff/trunk/wicket-contrib-gmap2/>that could be interesting.. What do you think? > > Best, Zoran > > -- > Zoran Kovacevic > Func. Internet Integration > W http://www.func.nl > M +31 6 48104284 > T +31 20 4230000 > F +31 20 4223500 > GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Webical-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers > -- Ivo van Dongen Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 |
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From: Zoran K. <zo...@fu...> - 2007-09-12 11:53:44
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Hi all, There are some things that IMO need to be done in order to get this whole Webical thing going again: 1. Development time: well, that's taken care of with our new intern Mattijs :) 2. Do a (non-AJAX) webical-0.2 stable release ASAP. This release should be dead-easy to install (for anyone with a little MySQL and Tomcat experience). By removing the 'Enable ajax (expirimental)'-link we can prevent people from thinking the app sucks ... everyone clicks that link :( The AJAX part sucks - that's true - but the accessible version really works! For Func. this will be a dog food release (webical.func.nl anyone?) 3. Spread the webical-0.2-stable-word everywhere and 'tease' with the coming AJAX/plugin version 4. Do a webical-0.3 AJAX version somewhere in the next 2-3 months 5. Do a first (Weather? OpenProjectServices? Rememberthemilk?) plugin release a month after that What do you think? Best, Zoran -- Zoran Kovacevic Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl M +31 6 48104284 T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... |
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From: Ivo v. D. <ivo...@gm...> - 2007-09-08 08:11:19
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Hi, Terrific! I hope that within 6 months you can make it complete enough for people to start using it daily. If you need any help just drop a line on the mailinglist. I'll try to free up some time as well, so perhaps we can share some of the work. Regards, Ivo On 9/6/07, Mattijs Hoitink <ma...@fu...> wrote: > > hi there, > > just a short mail to introduce myself. I'm Mattijs Hoitink, a 23 jear > old student Computer Science. > I'm an intern at Func., who started the Webical project. In the next 6 > months i hope to make some improvements on the Webical project, > especially on the AJAX part. To make it more "juicy" as i read on the > wiki. > > I still have to get to know the project, hopefully with some help of Ivo > and Zoran. But I'm looking forward to my first commit :) > > Mattijs > > -- > Mattijs Hoitink > Func. Internet Integration > W http://www.func.nl > T +31 20 4230000 > F +31 20 4223500 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Webical-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers > -- Ivo van Dongen Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 |
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From: Zoran K. <zo...@fu...> - 2007-09-06 10:02:20
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Welcome & go go go! Z Mattijs Hoitink wrote: > hi there, > > just a short mail to introduce myself. I'm Mattijs Hoitink, a 23 jear > old student Computer Science. > I'm an intern at Func., who started the Webical project. In the next 6 > months i hope to make some improvements on the Webical project, > especially on the AJAX part. To make it more "juicy" as i read on the wiki. > > I still have to get to know the project, hopefully with some help of Ivo > and Zoran. But I'm looking forward to my first commit :) > > Mattijs > -- Zoran Kovacevic Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl M +31 6 48104284 T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... |
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From: Mattijs H. <ma...@fu...> - 2007-09-06 09:07:40
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hi there, just a short mail to introduce myself. I'm Mattijs Hoitink, a 23 jear old student Computer Science. I'm an intern at Func., who started the Webical project. In the next 6 months i hope to make some improvements on the Webical project, especially on the AJAX part. To make it more "juicy" as i read on the wiki. I still have to get to know the project, hopefully with some help of Ivo and Zoran. But I'm looking forward to my first commit :) Mattijs -- Mattijs Hoitink Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 |
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From: Zoran K. <z.k...@fu...> - 2007-06-04 11:26:16
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Nice. Can't wait to see this Ajax thing finally work ;) Ivo van Dongen wrote: > Hi, > > It's been quiet on the list lately, but development is still in > progress. I've mostly been busy working on the hibernate layer in > webical. It kept giving problems like NonUniqueObjectExceptions, > LazyInitializationExceptions and really weird lockups without any > explanation. I've tried to solve this while still reusing the Spring > DaoSupport and other facilities, but it wouldn't behave properly so I've > ditched it together with the OpenSessionInviewFilter. The setup is now a > lot simpler. A dao implementation subclasses a general class > (BaseHibernateImpl) with all kinds of support methods (much like > HibernateDaoSupport). The sessionmanagement is based on an aspect and an > annotation. Each method marked with the @Transaction annotation is > wrapped with the necessary code to setup and flush the session. It seems > to work really good and its simple to avoid all the before mentioned > problems by keeping the marked methods really simple and small. The daos > are still to be cleaned up a bit, but it seems a step in the right > direction. > > Other recently added things: > > * Jetty and webdav-servlet integration in the unit tests. Now we > don't need internet to run the unit tests. Jetty is started with a > clean webdav root before each test. This also means no more > failures because test ran halfway through and the ics is left in a > messed up state. > * A fixed user id for development purposes. This way developers > don't need to log in after each restart > * Jetty launch for development with an integrated webdav-servlet > with one ics in the webdav root. See developers-readme.txt for > Jetty vs tomcat setup. > * A database bootstrap configuration in > src/main/webapp/applicationContext-bootstrap. Configuration is > inserted in the database on each startup. > * Encryption in the database for passwords. > > Planned in the near future: > > * An Aspect to catch LazyInitializationExceptions and reattach the > Object to the current Session > * Usage of hsqldb or Apache derby for development > * Refactoring of the Ajax dayview > > > Regards, > Ivo > > > -- > Ivo van Dongen > Func. Internet Integration > W http://www.func.nl > T +31 20 4230000 > F +31 20 4223500 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Webical-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers |
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From: Ivo v. D. <ivo...@gm...> - 2007-06-03 14:54:40
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Hi, It's been quiet on the list lately, but development is still in progress. I've mostly been busy working on the hibernate layer in webical. It kept giving problems like NonUniqueObjectExceptions, LazyInitializationExceptions and really weird lockups without any explanation. I've tried to solve this while still reusing the Spring DaoSupport and other facilities, but it wouldn't behave properly so I've ditched it together with the OpenSessionInviewFilter. The setup is now a lot simpler. A dao implementation subclasses a general class (BaseHibernateImpl) with all kinds of support methods (much like HibernateDaoSupport). The sessionmanagement is based on an aspect and an annotation. Each method marked with the @Transaction annotation is wrapped with the necessary code to setup and flush the session. It seems to work really good and its simple to avoid all the before mentioned problems by keeping the marked methods really simple and small. The daos are still to be cleaned up a bit, but it seems a step in the right direction. Other recently added things: - Jetty and webdav-servlet integration in the unit tests. Now we don't need internet to run the unit tests. Jetty is started with a clean webdav root before each test. This also means no more failures because test ran halfway through and the ics is left in a messed up state. - A fixed user id for development purposes. This way developers don't need to log in after each restart - Jetty launch for development with an integrated webdav-servlet with one ics in the webdav root. See developers-readme.txt for Jetty vs tomcat setup. - A database bootstrap configuration in src/main/webapp/applicationContext-bootstrap. Configuration is inserted in the database on each startup. - Encryption in the database for passwords. Planned in the near future: - An Aspect to catch LazyInitializationExceptions and reattach the Object to the current Session - Usage of hsqldb or Apache derby for development - Refactoring of the Ajax dayview Regards, Ivo -- Ivo van Dongen Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 |
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From: Ivo v. D. <ivo...@gm...> - 2007-05-19 12:26:06
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Hi, Sounds like a good idea, I heard Jochem will be back in Holland as well in = a couple of weeks. Perhaps a good excuse to meet up and discuss the future of webical some more? @ Jocehm & Paul: WDYT? Regards, Ivo On 5/14/07, Zoran Kovacevic <z.k...@fu...> wrote: > > FYI, anybody interested? > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Deelname poster sessie HOSC 2007 > Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:48:26 +0200 > From: Sweder de Bruijn <sw...@ho...> > Reply-To: sw...@ho... > To: z.k...@fu... > > > > Beste , > > Op 11 en 12 juni vindt voor de 3e maal de HollandOpen Software > Conference (HOSC) plaats in Amsterdam. Buiten keynotes van > internationaal gerenommeerde sprekers als Florence Devouard (Wikimedia > Foundation), Chikai Ohazama (Google Earth), Jason Levitt (Yahoo!) etc. > en diverse parallelle tracks over Open onderwijs, Open Geo en Open > Government is er ook tijd en ruimte ingepland voor de communities. > > Op maandagavond 11 juni zijn er vanaf 18.30 uur 2 zalen beschikbaar waar > communities naar eigen invulling een activiteit kunnen organiseren (bv. > presentatie, workshop). We willen dan ook graag weten of Webical van > deze mogelijkheid gebruik wil maken. Als jullie ge=EFnteresserd zijn, > stuur dan een mailtje naar in...@ho... > <mailto:in...@ho...>. Voor een borrel wordt gezorgd. > > Tevens willen we je erop attenderen dat de inschrijving voor de HOSC > 2007 geopend is en vragen of je de leden/betrokkenen van Webical hiervan > op de hoogte willen stellen. > Mochten er mensen problemen hebben met de, in onze ogen zeer > schappelijke, toegangsprijzen dan kunnen ze contact opnemen met Jo > Lahaye via jo...@ho... <mailto:jo...@ho...>. > > Kijk voor meer informatie op www.hosc.nl <http://www.hosc.nl> of kom > morgen, 15 mei, langs op de HollandOpen netwerkborrel, waar Jo in het > kort zal vertellen wat er dit jaar allemaal op de HOSC gaat gebeuren. > > Met vriendelijke groet, > > Sweder de Bruijn > Stichting HollandOpen > Neuweg 83 > 1214 GM Hilversum > Tel: 035-6838770 > > > -- > Zoran Kovacevic > Func. Internet Integration > W http://www.func.nl > M +31 6 48104284 > T +31 20 4230000 > F +31 20 4223500 > GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Webical-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers > --=20 Ivo van Dongen Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 |
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From: Zoran K. <z.k...@fu...> - 2007-05-14 18:21:08
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FYI, anybody interested? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Deelname poster sessie HOSC 2007 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:48:26 +0200 From: Sweder de Bruijn <sw...@ho...> Reply-To: sw...@ho... To: z.k...@fu... Beste , Op 11 en 12 juni vindt voor de 3e maal de HollandOpen Software Conference (HOSC) plaats in Amsterdam. Buiten keynotes van internationaal gerenommeerde sprekers als Florence Devouard (Wikimedia Foundation), Chikai Ohazama (Google Earth), Jason Levitt (Yahoo!) etc. en diverse parallelle tracks over Open onderwijs, Open Geo en Open Government is er ook tijd en ruimte ingepland voor de communities. Op maandagavond 11 juni zijn er vanaf 18.30 uur 2 zalen beschikbaar waar communities naar eigen invulling een activiteit kunnen organiseren (bv. presentatie, workshop). We willen dan ook graag weten of Webical van deze mogelijkheid gebruik wil maken. Als jullie geïnteresserd zijn, stuur dan een mailtje naar in...@ho... <mailto:in...@ho...>. Voor een borrel wordt gezorgd. Tevens willen we je erop attenderen dat de inschrijving voor de HOSC 2007 geopend is en vragen of je de leden/betrokkenen van Webical hiervan op de hoogte willen stellen. Mochten er mensen problemen hebben met de, in onze ogen zeer schappelijke, toegangsprijzen dan kunnen ze contact opnemen met Jo Lahaye via jo...@ho... <mailto:jo...@ho...>. Kijk voor meer informatie op www.hosc.nl <http://www.hosc.nl> of kom morgen, 15 mei, langs op de HollandOpen netwerkborrel, waar Jo in het kort zal vertellen wat er dit jaar allemaal op de HOSC gaat gebeuren. Met vriendelijke groet, Sweder de Bruijn Stichting HollandOpen Neuweg 83 1214 GM Hilversum Tel: 035-6838770 -- Zoran Kovacevic Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl M +31 6 48104284 T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... |
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From: Zoran K. <z.k...@fu...> - 2007-05-07 09:45:15
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Nice & thanks! Some thoughts, inline: > Check the new layout, now with all elements from demo.webical.org: > http://www.juulspee.nl/out/webical/layout_2.jpg - calendars on the left should be clearer (and on/off toggle is gone?) - red indicates current day? - yellow indicxates selected day? - the logout link could be smaller and put below the username (J.Doe)? - adding events in month layout is gone? (the plus sign) - curious on what day/week would look like > and some variations on the logo > http://www.juulspee.nl/out/webical/logo3.png (i took the simplest one > for the layout... maybe better to keep it simple in a rather > complicated page) +1 for the second variation (clean and recognizable) Best, Zoran -- Zoran Kovacevic Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl M +31 6 48104284 T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... |
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From: Matthijs W. <m.w...@fu...> - 2007-05-04 07:13:08
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Martin Tilma wrote: > Juul Spee wrote: > >> Check the new layout, now with all elements from demo.webical.org: >> http://www.juulspee.nl/out/webical/layout_2.jpg >> > > Looks nice... > > >> and some variations on the logo >> http://www.juulspee.nl/out/webical/logo3.png (i took the simplest one >> for the layout... maybe better to keep it simple in a rather >> complicated page) >> >> > > vote for the 1st variation > I vote for the 2nd variation where the W is also the bookmark thingy. At first glance I disliked it, but after a second or 3 I recognized it (especially on the total layout page) and got this kind of 'aha-erlebnis' :D Matthijs |
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From: Martin T. <m....@fu...> - 2007-05-03 12:35:57
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Juul Spee wrote: > Check the new layout, now with all elements from demo.webical.org: > http://www.juulspee.nl/out/webical/layout_2.jpg Looks nice... > > and some variations on the logo > http://www.juulspee.nl/out/webical/logo3.png (i took the simplest one > for the layout... maybe better to keep it simple in a rather > complicated page) > vote for the 1st variation Bye, Martin -- Martin Tilma Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 |
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From: Juul S. <ju...@ju...> - 2007-05-02 15:39:21
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Check the new layout, now with all elements from demo.webical.org: http://www.juulspee.nl/out/webical/layout_2.jpg and some variations on the logo http://www.juulspee.nl/out/webical/logo3.png (i took the simplest one for the layout... maybe better to keep it simple in a rather complicated page) Juul. |
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From: Matthijs W. <m.w...@fu...> - 2007-04-25 05:52:09
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Ivo van Dongen wrote: > > > On 4/24/07, *Zoran Kovacevic* <z.k...@fu... > <mailto:z.k...@fu...>> wrote: > > > Got rid of the kookwekker logo... Check http://www.juulspee.nl/out/ > > webical/ > > Ribbons are cool. I don't understand the thing the ribbon is in > though. > > > That would be the diary I think :). But I'd have to agree it's not > immediately obvious. Like the idea very much though! I think if the corners on the right side would not be rounded but sharp instead, it would be more recognizable. And maybe the pages in the diary should be smaller so they are not the complete width of the diary / agenda, but I'm not sure about that. > > > The ribbon from a diary always tells you where you are, when is now. > > And it's got a W in it! > > Hehehe. And perhaps the 'beta' should be 'alpha' ;) > > > Alpha? > > > Still working on making it more recognizable... And the layouts need > > a complete overhaul with this new style. > > *waiting for the update* > > -- > Zoran Kovacevic > Func. Internet Integration > W http://www.func.nl > M +31 6 48104284 > T +31 20 4230000 > F +31 20 4223500 > GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Webical-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > <mailto:Web...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers> > > > > > -- > Ivo van Dongen > Func. Internet Integration > W http://www.func.nl > T +31 20 4230000 > F +31 20 4223500 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Webical-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers > -- Matthijs Wensveen Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 |
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From: Ivo v. D. <ivo...@gm...> - 2007-04-24 09:15:56
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That's really cool. I've taken a quick look at the code and it even has documentation in it, helps a lot in rewriting it in java. On 4/22/07, Zoran Kovacevic <z.k...@fu...> wrote: > > Sounds like a nice backend plugin for Webical too > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/4631 > -- > Zoran Kovacevic > Func. Internet Integration > W http://www.func.nl > M +31 6 48104284 > T +31 20 4230000 > F +31 20 4223500 > GPG http://www.func.nl/keys/z.k...@fu... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Webical-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webical-developers > -- Ivo van Dongen Func. Internet Integration W http://www.func.nl T +31 20 4230000 F +31 20 4223500 |