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From: Obantec S. <su...@ob...> - 2006-09-02 11:26:40
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Hi any idea what this is in /var/webmin/miniserv.error [26/Aug/2000] [24.119.41.35] /unauthenticated//../../../../../../../../../../../../../../.. /../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../.. /../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../.. /../../../../../../../..//etc/shadow : File not found errors above and below are 2006 so the date is odd! Mark |
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From: Michael R. <mic...@gm...> - 2006-09-01 23:35:12
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2006-09-01 21:26:50
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Oh yeah, I don't like nscd. It is supposed to speed up access to users in /etc/passwd by caching the contents of that file in memory, which sort-of makes sense on systems with a huge number of users. However, it often doesn't detect changes to the file, which causes problems for programs like Webmin which create new user accounts and then expect them to be immediately available to other programs.. - Jamie On 1/Sep/2006 01:32 and...@fr... wrote .. > You were absolutely right !! > I turned off nscd and everything is OK > > Moreover, if I create an user, delete it, and try to recreate it, if nscd > is on it tells me: user already exists... > > If I turn off nscd, the user is created again. > > Last summer (2005) I fought a lot with Linux Samba server integration in > A.D. environments, via winbind and pam. > > After several days (very bad days...) I found the solution was simply to > turn off nscd... (now I see it is very well documented on Samba > documentation...) > > Now the question is : "But what is this Name Service Caching Daemon ?????? > " > > It seems to me bad for almost anything !!!!! > > I think it must be very important, because it is installed (and started) > by > default in all suse box... but what is supposed to be its function ??? > > Andrea > > > > > > "Jamie Cameron" > <jcameron@webmin. > com> > To > Sent by: Webmin users list > webadmin-list-bou <web...@li... > nc...@li... t> > forge.net > cc > > Subject > 31/08/2006 21.13 Re: [webmin-l] error in > documentation ??? > > Please respond to > Webmin users list > <webadmin-list@li > sts.sourceforge.n > et> > > > > > > That is very odd. > Try turning off the nscd process, which caches the password file. You can > do > this in Webmin's Bootup and Shutdown module. > > - Jamie > > On 31/Aug/2006 00:56 and...@fr... wrote .. > > Perhaps I found the explanation..... > > If I change the shell via webmin, I have to reboot the box to get the > > changes active... (?) > > > > Stopping and restarting SSH server has not effect > > > > So I changed the shell from /bin/bash to something not existing, but > I > > still was using /bin/bash > > > > If I reboot, then I get: > > > > if /bin/bash ----> login ok > > if /bin/false -----> close putty window > > if /shellnotexists --> access denied, wrong username or password > > > > everytime I change a shell of every user I have to reboot the > > box......................... > > SO documentation is OK, but actually it seems to me really strange having > > to reboot........ > > > > thanks, > > ANdrea > > > > > > > > > > "Jamie Cameron" > > <jcameron@webmin. > > com> > > To > > Sent by: Webmin users list > > webadmin-list-bou > <web...@li... > > nc...@li... t> > > forge.net > > cc > > > > > Subject > > 30/08/2006 18.08 Re: [webmin-l] error in > > documentation ??? > > > > Please respond to > > Webmin users list > > <webadmin-list@li > > sts.sourceforge.n > > et> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 30/Aug/2006 05:31 and...@fr... wrote .. > > > Hi all, > > > I think that could exists an error in documentation. > > > > > > I am trying to create users which can only use mail. > > > > > > So I put /bin/false in their shell, and it is OK. > > > > > > But this is the end of the story; according to the webmin documentation > > > : > > > > > > ... > > > When a user logs in via telnet or at the console, or opens an xterm > > window > > > in X the users shell program will be run to interpret commands entered. > > > If > > > a user does not have a valid shell program or has one that does nothing > > > (like /bin/false), then that user will not be able to login. This can > > be > > > useful when creating users who can only read and send email. > > > ... > > > > > > If you leave the shell field empty, or put a non existing program (like > > > /shellnotexists as shell field) you CAN login via putty (ssh) > > > (of course you had to permit login by password) and issue any kind > of > > > commands (ls, cd ......) > > > > > > If you correctly put /bin/false in the shell field, you login via putty > > > (ssh) and the window is closed immediatly (correct) > > > > > > I am running Suse 10.1 with latest kernel and patch > > > > > > I think that could be fine to update the help field > > > > So if the shell field is empty, when shell does a user get after logging > > in? > > I am very surprised that this works, unless the SSH server on some > systems > > is automatically falling back to the /bin/sh shell if no valid shell > is > > set > > in /etc/passwd. > > > > - Jamie > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > - > > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at > web...@li... > > To remove yourself from this list, go to > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > - > > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at > web...@li... > > To remove yourself from this list, go to > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2006-09-01 20:53:47
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On 1/Sep/2006 03:21 Jony Hudson wrote .. > Jamie Cameron <jcameron <at> webmin.com> writes: > > > Does the zone actually exist in the named.conf or named.conf.local ? > > If it is in named.conf.local , is there a directive in named.conf like > : > > > > include "/etc/named.conf.local"; > > > > Using the full path to named.conf.local ? > > Yes, the zone is defined in /etc/named.conf.local. This file is included > as you > describe in named.conf using its full path. > > I've found a workaround. I added a (dummy) master zone using the Webmin > BIND > module, as opposed to using the Virtualmin "new virtual site" command. > Now _all_ > of the zones appear in the Webmin BIND module. What's more if I now add > new > zones by adding Virtualmin virtual sites, these new zones automatically > appear > in the Webmin BIND module. > > Not quite sure how to explain that yet! Will poke around a bit more and > see if I > can figure it out ... I did see this once before actually - it turned out that the cause was a syntax error in named.conf that was causing Webmin to stop parsing at that point. Check for any missing } or ; characters.. - Jamie |
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From: Dov Z. <do...@za...> - 2006-09-01 14:51:59
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=D7=A6=D7=99=D7=98=D7=95=D7=98 Michael Ryerse: > No, the file is not there. Yes, I've when I run service sendmail > start it says the service is unknown. Sendmail appears to be > installed though. Webmin sees it there and lets me configure it. > It's not like other servers where I click on the server at webmin says > that it can't find the package at all. It's just when I try to start > sendmail via webmin, inid.d, or service sendmail start. Try running "yum install sendmail". What happens? > > On 8/31/06, Dov Zamir <do...@za...> wrote: >> =D7=A6=D7=99=D7=98=D7=95=D7=98 Michael Ryerse: >> > I am installing virtualmin hoping it will help with creating >> > mailboxes. The problem I'm having now is starting the sendmail >> > service via Wemin, it says: >> > Failed to start service : sh: /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail: No such fil= e >> > or directory >> > >> > Obviously I could create a new script but I would like to use the >> > method FC4 uses by default. I don't think it's set to use xinetd... >> > >> >> Have you checked your system manually to see if the file is there? >> /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail is the Federa default location and file name. >> Can you start the service from a command line with "service sendmail >> start"? If not, can you start it with /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail? >> > >> > >> > On 8/31/06, Dov Zamir <do...@za...> wrote: >> > >> >> =D7=A6=D7=99=D7=98=D7=95=D7=98 Brian Case: >> >> >> >>> On a Sendmail system, the situation below would be handled like=20 >> this: >> >>> >> >>> bo...@do... would have a system username of bob and mail for >> >>> bo...@do... would be aliased to bob via the virtusertable >> >>> bo...@do... would have a system username of bob2 and mail for >> >>> bo...@do... would be aliased to bob2 via the virtusertable >> >>> >> >>> I have no experience with Qmail or Postfix but I know Sendmail=20 >> does not >> >>> provide POP3 or IMAP services... I use Dovecot for those services.= .. >> >>> Since both Sendmail and Dovecot need to be able to authenticate=20 >> users, >> >>> having one username/password source (The user account) makes=20 >> sense... >> >>> >> >>> Brian >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> I also use Sendmail and Dovecot, however none of my mail users has = a >> >> local account. I use a MySQL database to authenticate users, and=20 >> to hold >> >> all kinds of additional information, such as DSLAM number and port, >> >> contact phone number and etc. >> >> >> >> It is much easier to maintain a system with an external user=20 >> database, >> >> be it LDAP, SQL or whatever, than to maintain users in system=20 >> accounts. >> >> >> >>> Michael Ryerse wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Thanks. I think I checked /named/chroot/var/named, but I'll=20 >> double check. >> >>>> >> >>>> As for Sendmail requiring a user, I beleive that is entirely=20 >> true, as >> >>>> I am sure there are thousands of sendmail servers out there that=20 >> host >> >>>> multiple domains and come across situations where they have a=20 >> mailbox >> >>>> for bo...@do... <mailto:bo...@do...>, as well as a=20 >> mailbox for >> >>>> bo...@do... <mailto:bo...@do...>, who are entirely=20 >> different >> >>>> users, and since the users have no use on the system other than f= or >> >>>> mail, there is no need to create a system account, because this=20 >> is a >> >>>> mail server. >> >>>> >> >>>> Regardless, I might find myself trying Qmail or Postfix simply=20 >> because >> >>>> the documentation for Sendmail seems to be scarce. It shouldn't=20 >> take >> >>>> this long to find simple steps to do something as simple as=20 >> create a >> >>>> user's mailbox. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 8/31/06, *Brian Case* <we...@we... >> >>>> <mailto:we...@we...>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Michael Ryerse wrote: >> >>>> > Hi, I just got a VPS server with FC4 and webmin. I have be= en >> >>>> setting >> >>>> > up BIND and noticed that the three zones I created did not=20 >> cause a >> >>>> > zone file to be written in /var/named. /etc/named.conf=20 >> seems to be >> >>>> > getting updated, but points to zone files that do not=20 >> exist, and I >> >>>> > think that this is causing name resolution to not work. An= y >> >>>> suggestions? >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Also, with Sendmail, I was wondering if someone could=20 >> point me >> >>>> to some >> >>>> > documentation on how to create mailboxes via webmin for=20 >> sendmail. I >> >>>> > do not want to use system users for mail, just want >> >>>> mailboxes. There >> >>>> > doesn't seem to be a straight-forward method to do this in=20 >> webmin. >> >>>> Regarding the BIND question, look in=20 >> /var/named/chroot/var/named for >> >>>> your zone files... I think BIND is chrooted in Fedora by=20 >> default... >> >>>> >> >>>> Regarding the Sendmail question, I don't think there is a=20 >> way to >> >>>> have a >> >>>> mailbox without a user... An alias, sure, but not a mailbox... >> >>>> >> >>>> Brian Case=20 >> <http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>=20 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---=20 >> >> >>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,=20 >> security? >> >>> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make=20 >> your job easier >> >>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache=20 >> Geronimo >> >>>=20 >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&da= t=3D121642 >> >>> - >> >>> Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at=20 >> web...@li... >> >>> To remove yourself from this list, go to >> >>> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>=20 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---=20 >> >> >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,=20 >> security? >> >> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your=20 >> job easier >> >> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache=20 >> Geronimo >> >>=20 >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&da= t=3D121642 >> >> - >> >> Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at=20 >> web...@li... >> >> To remove yourself from this list, go to >> >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list >> >> >> >> >> >=20 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---=20 >> >> > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,=20 >> security? >> > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your=20 >> job easier >> > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache=20 >> Geronimo >> >=20 >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&da= t=3D121642 >> > - >> > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at=20 >> web...@li... >> > To remove yourself from this list, go to >> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---=20 >> >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,=20 >> security? >> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your=20 >> job easier >> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache=20 >> Geronimo >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&da= t=3D121642 >> - >> Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at=20 >> web...@li... >> To remove yourself from this list, go to >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list >> > > > !DSPAM:500,44f8482018831336712104! |
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From: Michael R. <mic...@gm...> - 2006-09-01 14:47:54
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From: Jony H. <we...@j-...> - 2006-09-01 10:22:07
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Jamie Cameron <jcameron <at> webmin.com> writes: > Does the zone actually exist in the named.conf or named.conf.local ? > If it is in named.conf.local , is there a directive in named.conf like : > > include "/etc/named.conf.local"; > > Using the full path to named.conf.local ? Yes, the zone is defined in /etc/named.conf.local. This file is included as you describe in named.conf using its full path. I've found a workaround. I added a (dummy) master zone using the Webmin BIND module, as opposed to using the Virtualmin "new virtual site" command. Now _all_ of the zones appear in the Webmin BIND module. What's more if I now add new zones by adding Virtualmin virtual sites, these new zones automatically appear in the Webmin BIND module. Not quite sure how to explain that yet! Will poke around a bit more and see if I can figure it out ... Jony |
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From: <and...@fr...> - 2006-09-01 08:33:08
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You were absolutely right !!
I turned off nscd and everything is OK
Moreover, if I create an user, delete it, and try to recreate it, if nscd
is on it tells me: user already exists...
If I turn off nscd, the user is created again.
Last summer (2005) I fought a lot with Linux Samba server integration in
A.D. environments, via winbind and pam.
After several days (very bad days...) I found the solution was simply to
turn off nscd... (now I see it is very well documented on Samba
documentation...)
Now the question is : "But what is this Name Service Caching Daemon ??????
"
It seems to me bad for almost anything !!!!!
I think it must be very important, because it is installed (and started) by
default in all suse box... but what is supposed to be its function ???
Andrea
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That is very odd.
Try turning off the nscd process, which caches the password file. You can
do
this in Webmin's Bootup and Shutdown module.
- Jamie
On 31/Aug/2006 00:56 and...@fr... wrote ..
> Perhaps I found the explanation.....
> If I change the shell via webmin, I have to reboot the box to get the
> changes active... (?)
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> Stopping and restarting SSH server has not effect
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> So I changed the shell from /bin/bash to something not existing, but I
> still was using /bin/bash
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> If I reboot, then I get:
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> if /bin/bash ----> login ok
> if /bin/false -----> close putty window
> if /shellnotexists --> access denied, wrong username or password
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> everytime I change a shell of every user I have to reboot the
> box.........................
> SO documentation is OK, but actually it seems to me really strange having
> to reboot........
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>
>
>
> On 30/Aug/2006 05:31 and...@fr... wrote ..
> > Hi all,
> > I think that could exists an error in documentation.
> >
> > I am trying to create users which can only use mail.
> >
> > So I put /bin/false in their shell, and it is OK.
> >
> > But this is the end of the story; according to the webmin documentation
> > :
> >
> > ...
> > When a user logs in via telnet or at the console, or opens an xterm
> window
> > in X the users shell program will be run to interpret commands entered.
> > If
> > a user does not have a valid shell program or has one that does nothing
> > (like /bin/false), then that user will not be able to login. This can
> be
> > useful when creating users who can only read and send email.
> > ...
> >
> > If you leave the shell field empty, or put a non existing program (like
> > /shellnotexists as shell field) you CAN login via putty (ssh)
> > (of course you had to permit login by password) and issue any kind of
> > commands (ls, cd ......)
> >
> > If you correctly put /bin/false in the shell field, you login via putty
> > (ssh) and the window is closed immediatly (correct)
> >
> > I am running Suse 10.1 with latest kernel and patch
> >
> > I think that could be fine to update the help field
>
> So if the shell field is empty, when shell does a user get after logging
> in?
> I am very surprised that this works, unless the SSH server on some
systems
> is automatically falling back to the /bin/sh shell if no valid shell is
> set
> in /etc/passwd.
>
> - Jamie
>
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2006-09-01 06:00:54
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On 31/Aug/2006 22:19 Kaiser, Hans wrote .. <blockquote type=3D"cite"> Hello Jamie,<br /> <br /> I found the next bug/feature request.<br /> <br /> dump backups ony the inodes of one filesystem. But for backups it would be more sensible to backup all ext2/ext3 filesystems of the given path.<br /> For example:<br /> - you create a task to backup /<br /> - under /mnt/ you have 2 additional filesystems mounted<br /> =3D> webmin/dump will only backup the filesystem under with the / is mounted, the other two under /mnt get ommited and without any warning...<br /> <br /> Would it be easily possible to extend the webmin backup to backup also the mounted filesystems under the given path?<br /> <br /> regards </blockquote>Hi Hans,<br />That would be tricky, as a single dump command can only backup one filesystem. There is no way that I can think of to have several dumps written to the same destination file, apart from appending them one after another .. which would make restores impossible.<br /><br />Personally, I would recommand tar format backups if you want to span multiple filesystems.<br /><br />=A0- Jamie<br /><br /> |
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From: Kaiser, H. <r_...@gm...> - 2006-09-01 05:19:18
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Hello Jamie, I found the next bug/feature request. dump backups ony the inodes of one filesystem. But for backups it would be more sensible to backup all ext2/ext3 filesystems of the given path. For example: - you create a task to backup / - under /mnt/ you have 2 additional filesystems mounted => webmin/dump will only backup the filesystem under with the / is mounted, the other two under /mnt get ommited and without any warning... Would it be easily possible to extend the webmin backup to backup also the mounted filesystems under the given path? regards |
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From: John H. <web...@ew...> - 2006-09-01 05:02:50
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Michael Ryerse wrote: > I am installing virtualmin hoping it will help with creating > mailboxes. The problem I'm having now is starting the sendmail > service via Wemin, it says: > Failed to start service : sh: /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail: No such file > or directory > > Obviously I could create a new script but I would like to use the > method FC4 uses by default. I don't think it's set to use xinetd... > =20 It sounds like you didn't install the sendmail rpm. It puts the init=20 script in by default.. or at least on every RedHat OS I've ever used=20 which does not include any Fedora Core systems. Also, note that sendmail by default on RedHat systems is not set to=20 allow external mail. You have to remove the 127.0.0.1 part leaving DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=3Dsmtp, Name=3DMTA')dnl from /etc/mail/sendmail.mc Then run make -C /etc/mail and restart sendmail. Note, if you're going to run multiple domains in a shared environment...=20 I'd suggest you don't create users named bob, john, ted... What happens=20 is they become system wide users... So, if bob owns domain.com and=20 domain2.com does not have an email address for bob, bo...@do... will=20 get the email sent to bo...@do.... This is one of the reasons Webmin=20 sort of 'suggest' that you use the domain name as part of the username..=20 so user bob is actually bob.domain or however you set it up. Best, John Hinton > > > On 8/31/06, Dov Zamir <do...@za...> wrote: > =20 >> =D7=A6=D7=99=D7=98=D7=95=D7=98 Brian Case: >> =20 >>> On a Sendmail system, the situation below would be handled like this: >>> >>> bo...@do... would have a system username of bob and mail for >>> bo...@do... would be aliased to bob via the virtusertable >>> bo...@do... would have a system username of bob2 and mail for >>> bo...@do... would be aliased to bob2 via the virtusertable >>> >>> I have no experience with Qmail or Postfix but I know Sendmail does n= ot >>> provide POP3 or IMAP services... I use Dovecot for those services... >>> Since both Sendmail and Dovecot need to be able to authenticate users= , >>> having one username/password source (The user account) makes sense... >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> =20 >> I also use Sendmail and Dovecot, however none of my mail users has a >> local account. I use a MySQL database to authenticate users, and to ho= ld >> all kinds of additional information, such as DSLAM number and port, >> contact phone number and etc. >> >> It is much easier to maintain a system with an external user database, >> be it LDAP, SQL or whatever, than to maintain users in system accounts. >> =20 >>> Michael Ryerse wrote: >>> >>> =20 >>>> Thanks. I think I checked /named/chroot/var/named, but I'll double = check. >>>> >>>> As for Sendmail requiring a user, I beleive that is entirely true, a= s >>>> I am sure there are thousands of sendmail servers out there that hos= t >>>> multiple domains and come across situations where they have a mailbo= x >>>> for bo...@do... <mailto:bo...@do...>, as well as a mailbox f= or >>>> bo...@do... <mailto:bo...@do...>, who are entirely different >>>> users, and since the users have no use on the system other than for >>>> mail, there is no need to create a system account, because this is a >>>> mail server. >>>> >>>> Regardless, I might find myself trying Qmail or Postfix simply becau= se >>>> the documentation for Sendmail seems to be scarce. It shouldn't tak= e >>>> this long to find simple steps to do something as simple as create a >>>> user's mailbox. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/31/06, *Brian Case* <we...@we... >>>> <mailto:we...@we...>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Michael Ryerse wrote: >>>> > Hi, I just got a VPS server with FC4 and webmin. I have been >>>> setting >>>> > up BIND and noticed that the three zones I created did not cau= se a >>>> > zone file to be written in /var/named. /etc/named.conf seems = to be >>>> > getting updated, but points to zone files that do not exist, a= nd I >>>> > think that this is causing name resolution to not work. Any >>>> suggestions? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Also, with Sendmail, I was wondering if someone could point me >>>> to some >>>> > documentation on how to create mailboxes via webmin for sendma= il. I >>>> > do not want to use system users for mail, just want >>>> mailboxes. There >>>> > doesn't seem to be a straight-forward method to do this in web= min. >>>> Regarding the BIND question, look in /var/named/chroot/var/named= for >>>> your zone files... I think BIND is chrooted in Fedora by default= ... >>>> >>>> Regarding the Sendmail question, I don't think there is a way to >>>> have a >>>> mailbox without a user... An alias, sure, but not a mailbox... >>>> >>>> Brian Case <http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin= -list> >>>> >>>> >>>> =20 >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- >>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, secur= ity? >>> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your jo= b easier >>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Ger= onimo >>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&d= at=3D121642 >>> - >>> Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li...= ge.net >>> To remove yourself from this list, go to >>> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list >>> >>> >>> >>> =20 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, securi= ty? >> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job= easier >> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Gero= nimo >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&da= t=3D121642 >> - >> Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li...= e.net >> To remove yourself from this list, go to >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list >> >> =20 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, securit= y? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job = easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geron= imo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat= =3D121642 > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li...= .net > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > > > !DSPAM:44f7bade159589427810705! > > =20 |
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From: Dov Z. <do...@za...> - 2006-09-01 04:56:29
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=D7=A6=D7=99=D7=98=D7=95=D7=98 Michael Ryerse: > I am installing virtualmin hoping it will help with creating > mailboxes. The problem I'm having now is starting the sendmail > service via Wemin, it says: > Failed to start service : sh: /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail: No such file > or directory > > Obviously I could create a new script but I would like to use the > method FC4 uses by default. I don't think it's set to use xinetd... > =20 Have you checked your system manually to see if the file is there?=20 /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail is the Federa default location and file name.=20 Can you start the service from a command line with "service sendmail=20 start"? If not, can you start it with /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail? > > > On 8/31/06, Dov Zamir <do...@za...> wrote: > =20 >> =D7=A6=D7=99=D7=98=D7=95=D7=98 Brian Case: >> =20 >>> On a Sendmail system, the situation below would be handled like this: >>> >>> bo...@do... would have a system username of bob and mail for >>> bo...@do... would be aliased to bob via the virtusertable >>> bo...@do... would have a system username of bob2 and mail for >>> bo...@do... would be aliased to bob2 via the virtusertable >>> >>> I have no experience with Qmail or Postfix but I know Sendmail does n= ot >>> provide POP3 or IMAP services... I use Dovecot for those services... >>> Since both Sendmail and Dovecot need to be able to authenticate users= , >>> having one username/password source (The user account) makes sense... >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> =20 >> I also use Sendmail and Dovecot, however none of my mail users has a >> local account. I use a MySQL database to authenticate users, and to ho= ld >> all kinds of additional information, such as DSLAM number and port, >> contact phone number and etc. >> >> It is much easier to maintain a system with an external user database, >> be it LDAP, SQL or whatever, than to maintain users in system accounts. >> =20 >>> Michael Ryerse wrote: >>> >>> =20 >>>> Thanks. I think I checked /named/chroot/var/named, but I'll double = check. >>>> >>>> As for Sendmail requiring a user, I beleive that is entirely true, a= s >>>> I am sure there are thousands of sendmail servers out there that hos= t >>>> multiple domains and come across situations where they have a mailbo= x >>>> for bo...@do... <mailto:bo...@do...>, as well as a mailbox f= or >>>> bo...@do... <mailto:bo...@do...>, who are entirely different >>>> users, and since the users have no use on the system other than for >>>> mail, there is no need to create a system account, because this is a >>>> mail server. >>>> >>>> Regardless, I might find myself trying Qmail or Postfix simply becau= se >>>> the documentation for Sendmail seems to be scarce. It shouldn't tak= e >>>> this long to find simple steps to do something as simple as create a >>>> user's mailbox. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/31/06, *Brian Case* <we...@we... >>>> <mailto:we...@we...>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Michael Ryerse wrote: >>>> > Hi, I just got a VPS server with FC4 and webmin. I have been >>>> setting >>>> > up BIND and noticed that the three zones I created did not cau= se a >>>> > zone file to be written in /var/named. /etc/named.conf seems = to be >>>> > getting updated, but points to zone files that do not exist, a= nd I >>>> > think that this is causing name resolution to not work. Any >>>> suggestions? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Also, with Sendmail, I was wondering if someone could point me >>>> to some >>>> > documentation on how to create mailboxes via webmin for sendma= il. I >>>> > do not want to use system users for mail, just want >>>> mailboxes. There >>>> > doesn't seem to be a straight-forward method to do this in web= min. >>>> Regarding the BIND question, look in /var/named/chroot/var/named= for >>>> your zone files... I think BIND is chrooted in Fedora by default= ... >>>> >>>> Regarding the Sendmail question, I don't think there is a way to >>>> have a >>>> mailbox without a user... An alias, sure, but not a mailbox... >>>> >>>> Brian Case <http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin= -list> >>>> >>>> >>>> =20 >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- >>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, secur= ity? >>> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your jo= b easier >>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Ger= onimo >>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&d= at=3D121642 >>> - >>> Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li...= ge.net >>> To remove yourself from this list, go to >>> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list >>> >>> >>> >>> =20 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, securi= ty? >> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job= easier >> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Gero= nimo >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&da= t=3D121642 >> - >> Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li...= e.net >> To remove yourself from this list, go to >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list >> >> =20 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, securit= y? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job = easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geron= imo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat= =3D121642 > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li...= .net > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > > > !DSPAM:500,44f7bada187027023418314! > =20 |
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From: Michael R. <mic...@gm...> - 2006-09-01 04:45:06
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From: Dov Z. <do...@za...> - 2006-09-01 04:41:21
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=D7=A6=D7=99=D7=98=D7=95=D7=98 Brian Case: > I didn't know Dovecot could do that... > Where does sendmail/procmail store the incoming mail? > On my systems they are stored in files that are owned by the UID/GID of= =20 > the recipient. Which wouldn't exist without system accounts... > =20 Not true. The system can use UIDs and GIDs stored externally to the=20 system. Just Google for information, there is a lot out there. It isn't=20 really difficult to set up, and it is very easy to maintain. If you decide to go SQL, you have to compile dovecot from source with=20 SQL support, since Fedora's dovecot doesn't provide this support off the=20 shelf. The Fedora source rpm does have the ability to compile with it. > Brian > > Craig White wrote: > =20 >> An MTA doesn't know anything about user accounts / system users and >> doesn't do mail delivery. That is handled by another process...typical= ly >> procmail on a sendmail system with say, dovecot as a backend. Most MTA= 's >> have a configurable methodology to discover users usually as a means t= o >> decide whether to accept or reject an e-mail which is best done at the >> MTA level (rejecting being more favorable than accepting and then >> deciding to bounce it later on in the delivery process). >> >> Jamie's philosophy for Webmin/Usermin/Virtualmin is to have system >> users. >> >> Dovecot/Cyrus-IMAPd/Courier are all capable of have 'virtual' users >> which don't actually exist in /etc/passwd whether the virtual users db >> is LDAP or say MySQL. >> >> Personally, I use LDAP as my userdb, and then Postfix, Cyrus-IMAPd but= I >> could accomplish similar with Sendmail and Dovecot...it's all a matter >> of taste. >> >> Craig >> >> On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 15:06 -0700, Michael Ryerse wrote: >> =20 >> =20 >>> Thanks. I think I checked /named/chroot/var/named, but I'll double >>> check. >>> =20 >>> As for Sendmail requiring a user, I beleive that is entirely true, as >>> I am sure there are thousands of sendmail servers out there that host >>> multiple domains and come across situations where they have a mailbox >>> for bo...@do..., as well as a mailbox for bo...@do..., who ar= e >>> entirely different users, and since the users have no use on the >>> system other than for mail, there is no need to create a system >>> account, because this is a mail server. >>> =20 >>> Regardless, I might find myself trying Qmail or Postfix simply becaus= e >>> the documentation for Sendmail seems to be scarce. It shouldn't take >>> this long to find simple steps to do something as simple as create a >>> user's mailbox.=20 >>> >>> =20 >>> On 8/31/06, Brian Case <we...@we...> wrote:=20 >>> Michael Ryerse wrote: >>> > Hi, I just got a VPS server with FC4 and webmin. I have >>> been setting >>> > up BIND and noticed that the three zones I created did not >>> cause a=20 >>> > zone file to be written in /var/named. /etc/named.conf >>> seems to be >>> > getting updated, but points to zone files that do not exist= , >>> and I >>> > think that this is causing name resolution to not work. An= y >>> suggestions?=20 >>> > >>> > >>> > Also, with Sendmail, I was wondering if someone could point >>> me to some >>> > documentation on how to create mailboxes via webmin for >>> sendmail. I >>> > do not want to use system users for mail, just want >>> mailboxes. There=20 >>> > doesn't seem to be a straight-forward method to do this in >>> webmin. >>> Regarding the BIND question, look >>> in /var/named/chroot/var/named for >>> your zone files... I think BIND is chrooted in Fedora by >>> default... >>> =20 >>> Regarding the Sendmail question, I don't think there is a way >>> to have a >>> mailbox without a user... An alias, sure, but not a mailbox... >>> =20 >>> Brian Case >>> =20 >>> =20 > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, securit= y? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job = easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geron= imo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat= =3D121642 > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li...= .net > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > > !DSPAM:500,44f784cb151087960117363! > =20 |
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From: Dov Z. <do...@za...> - 2006-09-01 04:36:51
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=D7=A6=D7=99=D7=98=D7=95=D7=98 Brian Case: > On a Sendmail system, the situation below would be handled like this: > > bo...@do... would have a system username of bob and mail for=20 > bo...@do... would be aliased to bob via the virtusertable > bo...@do... would have a system username of bob2 and mail for=20 > bo...@do... would be aliased to bob2 via the virtusertable > > I have no experience with Qmail or Postfix but I know Sendmail does not= =20 > provide POP3 or IMAP services... I use Dovecot for those services...=20 > Since both Sendmail and Dovecot need to be able to authenticate users,=20 > having one username/password source (The user account) makes sense... > > Brian > > =20 I also use Sendmail and Dovecot, however none of my mail users has a=20 local account. I use a MySQL database to authenticate users, and to hold=20 all kinds of additional information, such as DSLAM number and port,=20 contact phone number and etc. It is much easier to maintain a system with an external user database,=20 be it LDAP, SQL or whatever, than to maintain users in system accounts. > Michael Ryerse wrote: > =20 >> Thanks. I think I checked /named/chroot/var/named, but I'll double ch= eck. >> =20 >> As for Sendmail requiring a user, I beleive that is entirely true, as=20 >> I am sure there are thousands of sendmail servers out there that host=20 >> multiple domains and come across situations where they have a mailbox=20 >> for bo...@do... <mailto:bo...@do...>, as well as a mailbox for= =20 >> bo...@do... <mailto:bo...@do...>, who are entirely different=20 >> users, and since the users have no use on the system other than for=20 >> mail, there is no need to create a system account, because this is a=20 >> mail server. >> =20 >> Regardless, I might find myself trying Qmail or Postfix simply because= =20 >> the documentation for Sendmail seems to be scarce. It shouldn't take=20 >> this long to find simple steps to do something as simple as create a=20 >> user's mailbox. >> >> =20 >> On 8/31/06, *Brian Case* <we...@we...=20 >> <mailto:we...@we...>> wrote: >> >> Michael Ryerse wrote: >> > Hi, I just got a VPS server with FC4 and webmin. I have been >> setting >> > up BIND and noticed that the three zones I created did not cause= a >> > zone file to be written in /var/named. /etc/named.conf seems to= be >> > getting updated, but points to zone files that do not exist, and= I >> > think that this is causing name resolution to not work. Any >> suggestions? >> > >> > >> > Also, with Sendmail, I was wondering if someone could point me >> to some >> > documentation on how to create mailboxes via webmin for sendmail= . I >> > do not want to use system users for mail, just want >> mailboxes. There >> > doesn't seem to be a straight-forward method to do this in webmi= n. >> Regarding the BIND question, look in /var/named/chroot/var/named f= or >> your zone files... I think BIND is chrooted in Fedora by default... >> >> Regarding the Sendmail question, I don't think there is a way to >> have a >> mailbox without a user... An alias, sure, but not a mailbox... >> >> Brian Case <http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-l= ist> >> >> =20 > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, securit= y? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job = easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geron= imo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat= =3D121642 > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li...= .net > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > > !DSPAM:500,44f78330150185031010556! > =20 |
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From: Craig W. <cra...@az...> - 2006-09-01 01:18:49
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I don't use dovecot - I use cyrus-imapd I went to dovecot.org and found 'virtual user configuration' on listed on their wiki. Craig On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 20:53 -0400, Brian Case wrote: > I didn't know Dovecot could do that... > Where does sendmail/procmail store the incoming mail? > On my systems they are stored in files that are owned by the UID/GID of > the recipient. Which wouldn't exist without system accounts... > > Brian > > Craig White wrote: > > An MTA doesn't know anything about user accounts / system users and > > doesn't do mail delivery. That is handled by another process...typically > > procmail on a sendmail system with say, dovecot as a backend. Most MTA's > > have a configurable methodology to discover users usually as a means to > > decide whether to accept or reject an e-mail which is best done at the > > MTA level (rejecting being more favorable than accepting and then > > deciding to bounce it later on in the delivery process). > > > > Jamie's philosophy for Webmin/Usermin/Virtualmin is to have system > > users. > > > > Dovecot/Cyrus-IMAPd/Courier are all capable of have 'virtual' users > > which don't actually exist in /etc/passwd whether the virtual users db > > is LDAP or say MySQL. > > > > Personally, I use LDAP as my userdb, and then Postfix, Cyrus-IMAPd but I > > could accomplish similar with Sendmail and Dovecot...it's all a matter > > of taste. > > > > Craig > > > > On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 15:06 -0700, Michael Ryerse wrote: > > > >> Thanks. I think I checked /named/chroot/var/named, but I'll double > >> check. > >> > >> As for Sendmail requiring a user, I beleive that is entirely true, as > >> I am sure there are thousands of sendmail servers out there that host > >> multiple domains and come across situations where they have a mailbox > >> for bo...@do..., as well as a mailbox for bo...@do..., who are > >> entirely different users, and since the users have no use on the > >> system other than for mail, there is no need to create a system > >> account, because this is a mail server. > >> > >> Regardless, I might find myself trying Qmail or Postfix simply because > >> the documentation for Sendmail seems to be scarce. It shouldn't take > >> this long to find simple steps to do something as simple as create a > >> user's mailbox. > >> > >> > >> On 8/31/06, Brian Case <we...@we...> wrote: > >> Michael Ryerse wrote: > >> > Hi, I just got a VPS server with FC4 and webmin. I have > >> been setting > >> > up BIND and noticed that the three zones I created did not > >> cause a > >> > zone file to be written in /var/named. /etc/named.conf > >> seems to be > >> > getting updated, but points to zone files that do not exist, > >> and I > >> > think that this is causing name resolution to not work. Any > >> suggestions? > >> > > >> > > >> > Also, with Sendmail, I was wondering if someone could point > >> me to some > >> > documentation on how to create mailboxes via webmin for > >> sendmail. I > >> > do not want to use system users for mail, just want > >> mailboxes. There > >> > doesn't seem to be a straight-forward method to do this in > >> webmin. > >> Regarding the BIND question, look > >> in /var/named/chroot/var/named for > >> your zone files... I think BIND is chrooted in Fedora by > >> default... > >> > >> Regarding the Sendmail question, I don't think there is a way > >> to have a > >> mailbox without a user... An alias, sure, but not a mailbox... > >> > >> Brian Case > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list |
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From: Roger B.A. K. <ro...@qu...> - 2006-09-01 01:13:40
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Brian Case wrote: > I didn't know Dovecot could do that... > Where does sendmail/procmail store the incoming mail? > On my systems they are stored in files that are owned by the UID/GID of > the recipient. Which wouldn't exist without system accounts... > Typically, they're owned by a single mail-delivery UID. The local delivery agent and the access servers run as that user. |
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From: Brian C. <we...@we...> - 2006-09-01 00:53:49
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I didn't know Dovecot could do that... Where does sendmail/procmail store the incoming mail? On my systems they are stored in files that are owned by the UID/GID of the recipient. Which wouldn't exist without system accounts... Brian Craig White wrote: > An MTA doesn't know anything about user accounts / system users and > doesn't do mail delivery. That is handled by another process...typically > procmail on a sendmail system with say, dovecot as a backend. Most MTA's > have a configurable methodology to discover users usually as a means to > decide whether to accept or reject an e-mail which is best done at the > MTA level (rejecting being more favorable than accepting and then > deciding to bounce it later on in the delivery process). > > Jamie's philosophy for Webmin/Usermin/Virtualmin is to have system > users. > > Dovecot/Cyrus-IMAPd/Courier are all capable of have 'virtual' users > which don't actually exist in /etc/passwd whether the virtual users db > is LDAP or say MySQL. > > Personally, I use LDAP as my userdb, and then Postfix, Cyrus-IMAPd but I > could accomplish similar with Sendmail and Dovecot...it's all a matter > of taste. > > Craig > > On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 15:06 -0700, Michael Ryerse wrote: > >> Thanks. I think I checked /named/chroot/var/named, but I'll double >> check. >> >> As for Sendmail requiring a user, I beleive that is entirely true, as >> I am sure there are thousands of sendmail servers out there that host >> multiple domains and come across situations where they have a mailbox >> for bo...@do..., as well as a mailbox for bo...@do..., who are >> entirely different users, and since the users have no use on the >> system other than for mail, there is no need to create a system >> account, because this is a mail server. >> >> Regardless, I might find myself trying Qmail or Postfix simply because >> the documentation for Sendmail seems to be scarce. It shouldn't take >> this long to find simple steps to do something as simple as create a >> user's mailbox. >> >> >> On 8/31/06, Brian Case <we...@we...> wrote: >> Michael Ryerse wrote: >> > Hi, I just got a VPS server with FC4 and webmin. I have >> been setting >> > up BIND and noticed that the three zones I created did not >> cause a >> > zone file to be written in /var/named. /etc/named.conf >> seems to be >> > getting updated, but points to zone files that do not exist, >> and I >> > think that this is causing name resolution to not work. Any >> suggestions? >> > >> > >> > Also, with Sendmail, I was wondering if someone could point >> me to some >> > documentation on how to create mailboxes via webmin for >> sendmail. I >> > do not want to use system users for mail, just want >> mailboxes. There >> > doesn't seem to be a straight-forward method to do this in >> webmin. >> Regarding the BIND question, look >> in /var/named/chroot/var/named for >> your zone files... I think BIND is chrooted in Fedora by >> default... >> >> Regarding the Sendmail question, I don't think there is a way >> to have a >> mailbox without a user... An alias, sure, but not a mailbox... >> >> Brian Case >> |
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From: Brian C. <we...@we...> - 2006-09-01 00:47:06
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On a Sendmail system, the situation below would be handled like this: bo...@do... would have a system username of bob and mail for bo...@do... would be aliased to bob via the virtusertable bo...@do... would have a system username of bob2 and mail for bo...@do... would be aliased to bob2 via the virtusertable I have no experience with Qmail or Postfix but I know Sendmail does not provide POP3 or IMAP services... I use Dovecot for those services... Since both Sendmail and Dovecot need to be able to authenticate users, having one username/password source (The user account) makes sense... Brian Michael Ryerse wrote: > Thanks. I think I checked /named/chroot/var/named, but I'll double check. > > As for Sendmail requiring a user, I beleive that is entirely true, as > I am sure there are thousands of sendmail servers out there that host > multiple domains and come across situations where they have a mailbox > for bo...@do... <mailto:bo...@do...>, as well as a mailbox for > bo...@do... <mailto:bo...@do...>, who are entirely different > users, and since the users have no use on the system other than for > mail, there is no need to create a system account, because this is a > mail server. > > Regardless, I might find myself trying Qmail or Postfix simply because > the documentation for Sendmail seems to be scarce. It shouldn't take > this long to find simple steps to do something as simple as create a > user's mailbox. > > > On 8/31/06, *Brian Case* <we...@we... > <mailto:we...@we...>> wrote: > > Michael Ryerse wrote: > > Hi, I just got a VPS server with FC4 and webmin. I have been > setting > > up BIND and noticed that the three zones I created did not cause a > > zone file to be written in /var/named. /etc/named.conf seems to be > > getting updated, but points to zone files that do not exist, and I > > think that this is causing name resolution to not work. Any > suggestions? > > > > > > Also, with Sendmail, I was wondering if someone could point me > to some > > documentation on how to create mailboxes via webmin for sendmail. I > > do not want to use system users for mail, just want > mailboxes. There > > doesn't seem to be a straight-forward method to do this in webmin. > Regarding the BIND question, look in /var/named/chroot/var/named for > your zone files... I think BIND is chrooted in Fedora by default... > > Regarding the Sendmail question, I don't think there is a way to > have a > mailbox without a user... An alias, sure, but not a mailbox... > > Brian Case <http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list> > |
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From: Craig W. <cra...@az...> - 2006-09-01 00:42:07
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An MTA doesn't know anything about user accounts / system users and doesn't do mail delivery. That is handled by another process...typically procmail on a sendmail system with say, dovecot as a backend. Most MTA's have a configurable methodology to discover users usually as a means to decide whether to accept or reject an e-mail which is best done at the MTA level (rejecting being more favorable than accepting and then deciding to bounce it later on in the delivery process). Jamie's philosophy for Webmin/Usermin/Virtualmin is to have system users. Dovecot/Cyrus-IMAPd/Courier are all capable of have 'virtual' users which don't actually exist in /etc/passwd whether the virtual users db is LDAP or say MySQL. Personally, I use LDAP as my userdb, and then Postfix, Cyrus-IMAPd but I could accomplish similar with Sendmail and Dovecot...it's all a matter of taste. Craig On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 15:06 -0700, Michael Ryerse wrote: > Thanks. I think I checked /named/chroot/var/named, but I'll double > check. > > As for Sendmail requiring a user, I beleive that is entirely true, as > I am sure there are thousands of sendmail servers out there that host > multiple domains and come across situations where they have a mailbox > for bo...@do..., as well as a mailbox for bo...@do..., who are > entirely different users, and since the users have no use on the > system other than for mail, there is no need to create a system > account, because this is a mail server. > > Regardless, I might find myself trying Qmail or Postfix simply because > the documentation for Sendmail seems to be scarce. It shouldn't take > this long to find simple steps to do something as simple as create a > user's mailbox. > > > On 8/31/06, Brian Case <we...@we...> wrote: > Michael Ryerse wrote: > > Hi, I just got a VPS server with FC4 and webmin. I have > been setting > > up BIND and noticed that the three zones I created did not > cause a > > zone file to be written in /var/named. /etc/named.conf > seems to be > > getting updated, but points to zone files that do not exist, > and I > > think that this is causing name resolution to not work. Any > suggestions? > > > > > > Also, with Sendmail, I was wondering if someone could point > me to some > > documentation on how to create mailboxes via webmin for > sendmail. I > > do not want to use system users for mail, just want > mailboxes. There > > doesn't seem to be a straight-forward method to do this in > webmin. > Regarding the BIND question, look > in /var/named/chroot/var/named for > your zone files... I think BIND is chrooted in Fedora by > default... > > Regarding the Sendmail question, I don't think there is a way > to have a > mailbox without a user... An alias, sure, but not a mailbox... > > Brian Case > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web > services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make > your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on > Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at > web...@li... > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > - Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... To remove yourself from this list, go to http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list |
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From: Michael R. <mic...@gm...> - 2006-08-31 22:06:56
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Thanks. I think I checked /named/chroot/var/named, but I'll double check. As for Sendmail requiring a user, I beleive that is entirely true, as I am sure there are thousands of sendmail servers out there that host multiple domains and come across situations where they have a mailbox for bo...@do..., as well as a mailbox for bo...@do..., who are entirely different users, and since the users have no use on the system other than for mail, there is no need to create a system account, because this is a mail server. Regardless, I might find myself trying Qmail or Postfix simply because the documentation for Sendmail seems to be scarce. It shouldn't take this long to find simple steps to do something as simple as create a user's mailbox. On 8/31/06, Brian Case <we...@we...> wrote: > > Michael Ryerse wrote: > > Hi, I just got a VPS server with FC4 and webmin. I have been setting > > up BIND and noticed that the three zones I created did not cause a > > zone file to be written in /var/named. /etc/named.conf seems to be > > getting updated, but points to zone files that do not exist, and I > > think that this is causing name resolution to not work. Any > suggestions? > > > > > > Also, with Sendmail, I was wondering if someone could point me to some > > documentation on how to create mailboxes via webmin for sendmail. I > > do not want to use system users for mail, just want mailboxes. There > > doesn't seem to be a straight-forward method to do this in webmin. > Regarding the BIND question, look in /var/named/chroot/var/named for > your zone files... I think BIND is chrooted in Fedora by default... > > Regarding the Sendmail question, I don't think there is a way to have a > mailbox without a user... An alias, sure, but not a mailbox... > > Brian Case > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at > web...@li... > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2006-08-31 22:06:21
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On 31/Aug/2006 14:28 Jony Hudson wrote .. > Jamie Cameron <jcameron <at> webmin.com> writes: > > > > > On 31/Aug/2006 04:58 Jony Hudson wrote .. > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've ran into a problem with Webmin/Virtualmin that I can't seem to > solve! > > > I'm > > > using Virtualmin to create virtual servers, which all goes very smoothly. > > > Virtualmin is, as per its default configuration, creating dns zones > for > > > the > > > newly created servers. It puts these zones in ".hosts" files in the > /etc/bind > > > directory which are included by named.conf.local. > > > > > > So far, so good. My problem is that I'm unable to edit these zones > with > > > Webmin. > > > They don't show up at all on the webmin Servers->Bind page. Is it possible > > > that > > > Webmin doesn't follow Bind "file" directives? Can anybody suggest a > solution > > > so > > > that I can edit these zones from Webmin (I want to be able to add A > records > > > to > > > the zones). > > > > > > I'm running the latest versions of webmin and virtualmin. > > > > > > Many thanks in advance, > > > > Hi Jony, > > Is the problem that the zones don't show up at all on the main page of > > the BIND module, or that they do show up but with no records in them? > If > > it is the latter, try clicking on the 'Edit Records File' icon, and checking > > the path at the top of the page that appears to see if it is correct.. > > Hi Jamie, thanks for the reply. > > They just don't show up at all in the BIND module. I've taken a look at > the .hosts files and the named.conf.local file and I don't see anything obviously > wrong with them (read something in the archives about malformed configs). > BIND is giving the right answers when queried. Does the zone actually exist in the named.conf or named.conf.local ? If it is in named.conf.local , is there a directive in named.conf like : include "/etc/named.conf.local"; Using the full path to named.conf.local ? > Perhaps it's time to finally learn something about perl and be less helpless! A good idea .. assuming you can understand my horrible Webmin code :) - Jamie |
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From: Brian C. <we...@we...> - 2006-08-31 21:53:26
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Michael Ryerse wrote: > Hi, I just got a VPS server with FC4 and webmin. I have been setting > up BIND and noticed that the three zones I created did not cause a > zone file to be written in /var/named. /etc/named.conf seems to be > getting updated, but points to zone files that do not exist, and I > think that this is causing name resolution to not work. Any suggestions? > > > Also, with Sendmail, I was wondering if someone could point me to some > documentation on how to create mailboxes via webmin for sendmail. I > do not want to use system users for mail, just want mailboxes. There > doesn't seem to be a straight-forward method to do this in webmin. Regarding the BIND question, look in /var/named/chroot/var/named for your zone files... I think BIND is chrooted in Fedora by default... Regarding the Sendmail question, I don't think there is a way to have a mailbox without a user... An alias, sure, but not a mailbox... Brian Case |
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From: Jony H. <we...@j-...> - 2006-08-31 21:29:28
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Jamie Cameron <jcameron <at> webmin.com> writes: > > On 31/Aug/2006 04:58 Jony Hudson wrote .. > > Hi, > > > > I've ran into a problem with Webmin/Virtualmin that I can't seem to solve! > > I'm > > using Virtualmin to create virtual servers, which all goes very smoothly. > > Virtualmin is, as per its default configuration, creating dns zones for > > the > > newly created servers. It puts these zones in ".hosts" files in the /etc/bind > > directory which are included by named.conf.local. > > > > So far, so good. My problem is that I'm unable to edit these zones with > > Webmin. > > They don't show up at all on the webmin Servers->Bind page. Is it possible > > that > > Webmin doesn't follow Bind "file" directives? Can anybody suggest a solution > > so > > that I can edit these zones from Webmin (I want to be able to add A records > > to > > the zones). > > > > I'm running the latest versions of webmin and virtualmin. > > > > Many thanks in advance, > > Hi Jony, > Is the problem that the zones don't show up at all on the main page of > the BIND module, or that they do show up but with no records in them? If > it is the latter, try clicking on the 'Edit Records File' icon, and checking > the path at the top of the page that appears to see if it is correct.. Hi Jamie, thanks for the reply. They just don't show up at all in the BIND module. I've taken a look at the .hosts files and the named.conf.local file and I don't see anything obviously wrong with them (read something in the archives about malformed configs). BIND is giving the right answers when queried. Perhaps it's time to finally learn something about perl and be less helpless! Jony |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2006-08-31 19:32:21
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On 31/Aug/2006 04:58 Jony Hudson wrote .. > Hi, > > I've ran into a problem with Webmin/Virtualmin that I can't seem to solve! > I'm > using Virtualmin to create virtual servers, which all goes very smoothly. > Virtualmin is, as per its default configuration, creating dns zones for > the > newly created servers. It puts these zones in ".hosts" files in the /etc/bind > directory which are included by named.conf.local. > > So far, so good. My problem is that I'm unable to edit these zones with > Webmin. > They don't show up at all on the webmin Servers->Bind page. Is it possible > that > Webmin doesn't follow Bind "file" directives? Can anybody suggest a solution > so > that I can edit these zones from Webmin (I want to be able to add A records > to > the zones). > > I'm running the latest versions of webmin and virtualmin. > > Many thanks in advance, Hi Jony, Is the problem that the zones don't show up at all on the main page of the BIND module, or that they do show up but with no records in them? If it is the latter, try clicking on the 'Edit Records File' icon, and checking the path at the top of the page that appears to see if it is correct.. - Jamie |
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