Re: [webmin-l] Virtualmin Professional

[Craig W. <cra...@az...>]

On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 18:41 -0700, Barry wrote:
> Joe Cooper wrote:
> 
> > Craig White wrote:
> >
> >> ----
> >> good for you guys - I think that is a logical extension of the
> >> webmin/virtualmin product.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the encouragement!  We felt that way too.  It just became 
> > apparent that it was the best way to answer the needs of commercial 
> > hosting providers, without causing any pain to users of the GPL version.
> >
> > And thanks for all of the good advice.  I'll comment on each bit 
> > inline below.
> 
> 
> Glad this thread is continuing because I was wondering a bit more this 
> morning and hadn't had a chance to followup today.
> 
> I am all for you guys making money, and if this is related to the Open 
> Country announcement then so be it,
> 
> But I wonder how it is justified under the terms of GPL? If the original 
> code is
> GPL, isn;t all derivative code, and and with few exceptions with ways of 
> linking, everything attached to it GPL?
> 
> And doesn't GPL require products that are released to customers, such as 
> professional ISPs to install on their own machines surely will get, 
> isn't it required that code be made available?
> 
> Also, isn't it also the case that GPL requires availability to all when 
> the product (and code) is released, not on a preferential treatment?
> 
> Now, I know you can charge for the reproduction or service of copying 
> the product and code, and you can charge what the market will bear. But 
> the product is still GPL and others can make the same product available 
> at whatever cost they deem appropriate.
> 
> Maybe here is something more I am missing here - I woke up this morning 
> really hoping to find out webmin is actually BSD licensed, in which case 
> you would not need to disclose code and could have proprietary forks. 
> Sadly that doesn;t seem to be the case.
> 
> So I am confused - what's the deal here?
----
you should have at least looked at the license before you commented.
It's not GPL, it's BSD

http://www.webmin.com/intro.html

Furthermore, the sweat and the equity is to those that put it into it
which as far as I know, has to be like at least 98% Jamie if not higher
but only those who contributed code to it are entitled to question it
and I doubt there are many who have earned that right.

Lastly, if Jamie and Joe can prosper by taking their base and even
devote more time and energy, then the code base would have to benefit so
there's no reason to assume that it wouldn't be a winner all around.
Clearly Jamie has the benefit of each and every doubt besides the
gratitude for his generosity this far. If he decided to not develop it
any further, I would presume that it could be forked under BSD
restrictions.

Craig


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