From: Adam S. <Ada...@th...> - 2009-09-02 19:57:36
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No, clicking the check box (im actually picturing a red X) would eliminate records of that particular facet from the current result set. Clicking the text narrows the result set to that particular facet. So [X] frank Lloyd wright means don't show me anything that says its about frank Lloyd wright And clicking on 'frank Lloyd wright' in the topics facet means only show me things about frank Lloyd wright. Also, one problem I see with the facets as they are often implemented is that they aren't always true facets. Facets should be mutually exclusive within their domain. For example, subject headings shouldn't really be facets since one item could have multiple subjects. I think this is why 'AND' and 'OR' is a problem. Adam Shire Associate & Systems Librarian The Boston Architectural College 320 Newbury Street - Boston, MA 02115 617.585.0251 ada...@th... -----Original Message----- From: Chris Delis [mailto:ce...@ui...] Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 3:27 PM To: Adam Shire; Demian Katz; Mark Triggs Cc: vuf...@li... Subject: Re: [VuFind-Tech] Excluding facets > From: Adam Shire <Ada...@th...> > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:17:48 -0400 > To: Chris Delis <ce...@ui...>, Demian Katz > <dem...@vi...>, Mark Triggs <mt...@nl...> > Cc: <vuf...@li...> > Subject: RE: [VuFind-Tech] Excluding facets > > Maybe instead of checking something to include it, you would check the box to > exclude it. That seems to work :-) So, clicking on a checkbox would act the same as "normal" facets (text link) in that it narrows search results (AND), with the only difference being it would not expand deeper into the hierarchy. ??? -Chris > > Adam Shire > Associate & Systems Librarian > The Boston Architectural College > 320 Newbury Street - Boston, MA 02115 > 617.585.0251 > ada...@th... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Delis [mailto:ce...@ui...] > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 3:05 PM > To: Demian Katz; Mark Triggs > Cc: vuf...@li... > Subject: Re: [VuFind-Tech] Excluding facets > > >> From: Demian Katz <dem...@vi...> >> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:54:27 -0400 >> To: Chris Delis <ce...@ui...>, Mark Triggs <mt...@nl...> >> Cc: "vuf...@li..." <vuf...@li...> >> Subject: RE: [VuFind-Tech] Excluding facets >> >>> This might be naïve, but I was wondering if it'd be possible to use the same >>> facet interface we have now and simply add a checkbox to the left of each >>> facet text. That way, if a user clicks on the checkbox, the search is OR'd; >>> and if the user clicks on the facet text (like before), the search is AND'd. >> >> The main problem I see with the checkbox idea is that (unless I'm >> misunderstanding something), you don't know when to redraw the screen. >> >> Suppose you have this: >> >> [ ] Book (20) >> [ ] Online (1) >> [ ] Journal (2) >> >> Suppose the user wants Online or Journal but not book... they start by >> checking off Online. If the screen immediately redraws, the facets will >> change based on the new result set, and then there's no longer any "Journal" >> option to check off in order to achieve the OR. If the screen doesn't >> immediately redraw, what indicates that it needs to? > > > Right, there would need to be some sort of "apply" button, to allow a user > to select multiple checkboxes in one screen. > > > >> >> Perhaps moving this into a lightbox would help... keep the basic facet >> behavior as it is, but have an advanced faceting button that opens a pop-up >> showing all the facets with checkboxes and including separate buttons for the >> different actions: narrow, broaden, exclude. Might be a little clunky, >> especially if we need to implement a non-Javascript-dependent version, but it >> could be a starting point if nothing more elegant comes along. > > This seems like a good compromise. Offer the "clunky" UI as a popup for > those willing to use advanced facet features. > > -Chris > >> >> - Demian > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Vufind-tech mailing list > Vuf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vufind-tech |