visualpython-users

[Visualpython-users] Crash when quit

[<fre...@gb...>]

Hi,

I'm using vpython under debian lenny, and as soon as I close the window, or=
=20
call the display hide() method, my app crash with the following error:

Gdk-ERROR **: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
  serial 1309 error_code 2 request_code 129 minor_code 9

Am I doing something wrong? ASFAIR, I had this problem long ago, when I=20
tried vptyhon for the first time...

Thanks,

=2D-=20
   Fr=E9d=E9ric

   http://www.gbiloba.org

Re: [Visualpython-users] vpython and XML schema

[Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...>]

I notice that there are Python modules for manipulating xml files. On 
the EDIT help menu, choose Python help, then global modules.

Bruce Sherwood

chris lyon wrote:
> Has anyone produced a schema or indeed an application that can export 
> vpython data as xml data and import it as well?
> 
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[Visualpython-users] vpython and XML schema

[chris l. <chr...@sp...>]

Has anyone produced a schema or indeed an application that can export 
vpython data as xml data and import it as well?

[Visualpython-users] documentation in single html or pdf, pys60

[Jose L. G. <dee...@gm...>]

Hello all,

I was wondering if there is a pdf or single html version of the
documentation somewhere?

and,

Have you tried to get visual python in the symbian pys60 platform?

Best regards,

Jose Garduno

[Visualpython-users] VPython on Ubuntu 7.10

[Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...>]

I reported a problem in trying to install Visual 3.2.9 on Ubuntu 7.10. 
David Sanders pointed out to me that when I got the message referring to 
"gtk-config" I should have run that program, which would have told me I 
needed to install libgtk-dev. I was then able to build 3.2.9.

As for building the beta version on Ubuntu 7.10, a couple of people 
reported a problem with not finding numpy. My best guess is that there 
were installations of Python 2.5 in both /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin, 
which apparently can confuse the configure process. It's important to 
follow these instructions from INSTALL.txt:

On Linux, do this: which python
Make a note of the prefix preceding /bin/python, typically /usr or 
/usr/local.
	
(a) If prefix is /usr/local, execute ../visual-x.x.x/configure

(b) If prefix is something else, and Visual can go into 
prefix/lib/python/site-packages, execute
../visual-x.x.x/configure --prefix=prefix

(c) If you want to use a different version of Python than the one found 
with "which python", or (b) is not appropriate, specify both the 
particular Python and where to install Visual:
PYTHON=/somewhere1/bin/python ../visual-x.x.x/configure --prefix=/somewhere2

If "somewhere1" and "somewhere2" are different, you must also add the 
"somewhere2" directory to Python's module search path. For details, at 
www.python.org read section 4.1 (Modifying Python's Search Path) in the 
section Installing Python Modules of the Python on-line documentation.

Bruce Sherwood

[Visualpython-users] Information Aesthetics

[Joel K. <jj...@ya...>]

Here's a site to check out if you
are not already familiar with it:

http://www.infosthetics.com/

It seems to me that VPython might be a
useful tool for the kind of activities
described on the site.

Joel



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[Visualpython-users] More on Ubuntu 7.10

[Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...>]

As I said in a previous note, after upgrading to Ubuntu 7.10 from an 
earlier version, I successfully installed python-visual using the 
package manager but found it to be 3.1.1. I tried to build Visual 3.2.9 
from the source package available at vpython.org, but that failes with a 
problem with pkg-config for gtk+; the error message is "sh:
gtk-config: not found", which I don't understand.

Next I tried building the beta version from sourceforge. I found I had 
to use the package manager to install libboost python and thread dev 
packages, after which I was able to build and run the beta version.

Bruce Sherwood

[Visualpython-users] Ubuntu 7.10

[Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...>]

I upgraded to Ubuntu 7.10. I was shown a sizable list of "obsolete" 
files that would be deleted, including various boost 1.33 and 1.34 
files, which I accepted, although these are needed by Visual. After the 
upgrade I tried running VPython and got an error message that a boost 
file was missing, which wasn't surprising. I went to the package 
manager, found "python-visual", and successfully installed it. However, 
it's pretty old: 3.1.1; the current production version is 3.2.9. I don't 
know who builds Ubuntu packages, or how they decide what version of an 
application to package.

I tried building Visual 3.2.9 (the production version for Linux 
available at vpython.org) but in the configure phase was told there was 
a problem with pkg-config for gtk+; the error message is "sh: 
gtk-config: not found", which I don't understand.

Bruce Sherwood

[Visualpython-users] Leopard / Tiger / MacBook Pro

[Ruth C. <rwc...@nc...>]

The problems I reported with VPython on Leopard (clipping plane errors, 
etc.) aren't due to Leopard after all.  I retreated to Tiger (clean 
install), installed visual-py25, and saw exactly the same set of 
problems.  After searching a bit, I found that other OpenGL applications 
(notably Second Life) have serious problems with Apple's OpenGL driver 
for the GeForce 8600M GT graphics card in the MacBook Pro (2.2 or 2.4 
GHz Intel Core Duo).  Apple has not (yet) provided an updated graphics 
driver.

Seems like Macintosh is the machine for "the rest of us" only if we are 
willing to restrict ourselves to applications starting with "i".

   Ruth Chabay

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[Visualpython-users] 4beta,20

[Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...>]

On second thought, to keep everything completely up to date even though 
there's very little difference from 4beta.16 for Linux: There is now a 
4beta.20 package for Linux available at sourceforge.

Bruce Sherwood

Re: [Visualpython-users] visual-4.beta20 source code tar.gz

[Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...>]

For Linux, there's almost no difference between beta16 and beta20. 
What's special about beta20 is that it was built using gtk2 on Windows. 
This is why there isn't a beta20 compressed source file posted at 
sourceforge.

The only significant change since beta16 as far as Linux is concerned is 
the file in CVS vpython-core2/src/python/curve.cpp, where there is a 
correction to permit constructing a curve initially with a single 
position coordinate.

Bruce Sherwood

c.s. wrote:
> Someone knowns where can I find the compressed sources (.tar.gz)  of 
> visual-4.beta20 ?
> I hope I can compile it in an Ubuntu 7.10 system.
>
> thanks in advance,
>
>
> Omar
>
>

[Visualpython-users] visual-4.beta20 source code tar.gz

[c.s. <cts...@gm...>]

Someone knowns where can I find the compressed sources (.tar.gz)  of
visual-4.beta20 ?
I hope I can compile it in an Ubuntu 7.10 system.

thanks in advance,


Omar

[Visualpython-users] Young Scientist Prize in Computational Physics

[Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...>]

Here is an announcement of a an award for a young physicist (no more 
than 8 years beyond the Ph.D.) who has done outstanding work in 
computational physics:

    http://c20.iupap.org/prizes.htm

Bruce Sherwood

Re: [Visualpython-users] Problems with VPythonbeta20

[Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...>]

Additional comments: I took my own advice and saw what happens if I turn 
off graphics acceleration (screen settings > advanced > troubleshoot). 
Running glinfo.py from the VPython examples one sees that the Microsoft 
software OpenGL renderer is invoked. When I try to create a sphere, I 
see a window frame flash briefly and disappear. Only if I increase the 
hardware acceleration to the point where glinfo.py shows the graphics 
card's OpenGL renderer active can I create a window and see a sphere.

I thought it was supposed to be the case that the software OpenGL engine 
would produce images, just more slowly than a graphics card would do. 
Guess that's not the case, or lease not the case with the current 
beta-version code in VPython.

Bruce Sherwood

Andrey Antonov (UCTM) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have never seen the window for VPython-Win-Py2.5-4.beta**   !
> My Windows is XP. When I import the visual module and draw a cylinder or 
> sphere I got this without a Vpython screen:
>   
>>>> from visual import *
>>>> a=cylinder(pos=(0,0,0),axis=(0,0,1),radius=3,thickness=.1)
>>>>         
>
>   
>>>> ================================ RESTART =======================
>>>>         
>
>
> On wednesday (21 November) I saw 33 downloads (including mine) for 
> VPython-Win-Py2.5-4.beta20.
> Of course before installing it I removed the previous stable version 
> VPython-Win-Py2.5-3.2.11.
>
> Any hints are welcome.
> Math teacher 
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Re: [Visualpython-users] Problems with VPythonbeta20

[Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...>]

Since you say you've never seen a graphics window with beta**, I assume 
that means you previously tried beta versions earlier than 20. If so, 
that's interesting, because there's a significant difference between 
beta16 and beta 20, which uses entirely platform-independent code except 
for clock time.

What is common to all the beta versions is that much of the display 
generation is done by the processor in the graphics card. For that 
reason, it may be useful to update the graphics card driver and see 
whether that makes a difference. Another possible test is to go to the 
advanced section of screen settings, choose the Troubleshoot tab, and 
set hardware acceleration to None, which I think means that all the 
OpenGL work is done in software rather than in the processor of the 
graphics card.

One of the puzzles about the problems with the beta version(s) on 
Windows is that the failures differ from one computer to another, even 
computers that seem quite similar.

Bruce Sherwood

Andrey Antonov (UCTM) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have never seen the window for VPython-Win-Py2.5-4.beta**   !
> My Windows is XP. When I import the visual module and draw a cylinder or 
> sphere I got this without a Vpython screen:
>   
>>>> from visual import *
>>>> a=cylinder(pos=(0,0,0),axis=(0,0,1),radius=3,thickness=.1)
>>>>         
>
>   
>>>> ================================ RESTART =======================
>>>>         
>
>
> On wednesday (21 November) I saw 33 downloads (including mine) for 
> VPython-Win-Py2.5-4.beta20.
> Of course before installing it I removed the previous stable version 
> VPython-Win-Py2.5-3.2.11.
>
> Any hints are welcome.
> Math teacher 
>
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[Visualpython-users] Problems with VPythonbeta20

[Andrey A. \(UCTM\) <an...@uc...>]

Hi,

I have never seen the window for VPython-Win-Py2.5-4.beta**   !
My Windows is XP. When I import the visual module and draw a cylinder or 
sphere I got this without a Vpython screen:
>>> from visual import *
>>> a=cylinder(pos=(0,0,0),axis=(0,0,1),radius=3,thickness=.1)

>>> ================================ RESTART =======================


On wednesday (21 November) I saw 33 downloads (including mine) for 
VPython-Win-Py2.5-4.beta20.
Of course before installing it I removed the previous stable version 
VPython-Win-Py2.5-3.2.11.

Any hints are welcome.
Math teacher 

Re: [Visualpython-users] New Beta Version error on Windows

[Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...>]

Thanks for the report. The cursor issue is documented in the summary of 
new features; cursor manipulation hasn't yet been implemented in the 
beta version. Even in the production version of VPython there isn't a 
facility for changing the appearance of the cursor, only making it 
invisible/visible.

Could you please give us a short test program for which the font problem 
shows up? It wouldn't be a problem with the production version 
(non-beta). It also wouldn't be a problem with the previous beta 
version. It is only the very latest beta version 20 for Windows that 
uses gtk2 (like in the Linux version), and pango is the font-handling 
subsystem in gtk2. I suppose it is possible that there is some aspect of 
Windows Me that is the limitation: that's a pretty old operating system.

Bruce Sherwood

sccs cscs wrote:
> Hello,
> I work on Windows Me, and some of my old script do not work correctly 
> with the new version of Beta Vpython:
>
> - I got the following message:
> (PYTHONW.EXE:4294347557): Pango-WARNING **: couldn't load font "Sans 
> 10", falling back to "Sans 10", expect ugly output.
>
> (PYTHONW.EXE:4294347557): Pango-WARNING **: All font fallbacks failed!!!!
>
> (PYTHONW.EXE:4294347557): Pango-WARNING **: couldn't load font "Sans 
> Not-Rotated 10", falling back to "Sans Not-Rotated 10", expect ugly 
> output.
>
> (PYTHONW.EXE:4294347557): Pango-WARNING **: All font fallbacks failed!!!!
>
> - I got the folling Exception : "display' object has no attribute 
> 'cursor'" if i try to change the cursor visibility:  
> scene.cursor.visible = 1
>
> - I try to change the cursor appearence (i want it to become a Hand), 
> but i cannot find the code to do that.
>
>
> Thank You
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[Visualpython-users] New Beta Version error on Windows

[sccs c. <zo...@ya...>]

Hello,
I work on Windows Me, and some of my old script do not work correctly with the new version of Beta Vpython:

- I got the following message:
(PYTHONW.EXE:4294347557): Pango-WARNING **: couldn't load font "Sans 10", falling back to "Sans 10", expect ugly output.

(PYTHONW.EXE:4294347557): Pango-WARNING **: All font fallbacks failed!!!!

(PYTHONW.EXE:4294347557): Pango-WARNING **: couldn't load font "Sans Not-Rotated 10", falling back to "Sans Not-Rotated 10", expect ugly output.

(PYTHONW.EXE:4294347557): Pango-WARNING **: All font fallbacks failed!!!!

- I got the folling Exception : "display' object has no attribute 'cursor'" if i try to change the cursor visibility:  scene.cursor.visible = 1 

- I try to change the cursor appearence (i want it to become a Hand), but i cannot find the code to do that.


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Re: [Visualpython-users] VPython / Leopard (again)

[Ruth C. <rwc...@nc...>]

Thank you for the suggestion.  I updated both of these things (Xquartz 
and libX11.6.dylib) and nothing changed.

I'm not sure what to try next.

     Ruth

Martin Costabel wrote:
> Ruth Chabay wrote:
>> I do (still) see problems with VPython on Leopard.  Here's the gory 
>> detail:
>>
>> My MacBook Pro (Intel core duo, 2.4 GHz, 2 GB of RAM, GeForce 8600M GT 
>> (256 MB VRAM)) came with Tiger (10.4).  I installed and ran VPython 24 
>> without problems (at least I think there were no problems; I didn't 
>> try every example program).
>>
>> I just did a clean install of Leopard (10.5).  I installed the version 
>> of X11 that came on the DVD; also XCode tools from the DVD.  I 
>> installed the newest Fink.  Using that, I installed VPython2.5, from 
>> source.
>>
>> After a struggle to reset X11 key/mouse preferences, and another 
>> struggle to reconfigure IDLE, mouse input *mostly* works okay. But:
> 
> While I don't see your problems here, so I have no idea where they come 
> from, there is something that you could test:
> 
> The Apple engineer maintaining X11 on Leopard is providing bug-fixed 
> versions of the X server Xquartz and of libX11.6.dylib here:
> <http://www.x.org/wiki/XDarwin>
> 
> Maybe installing these helps with some of your problems, too.
> 

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Re: [Visualpython-users] VPython / Leopard (again)

[Martin C. <cos...@wa...>]

Ruth Chabay wrote:
> I do (still) see problems with VPython on Leopard.  Here's the gory detail:
> 
> My MacBook Pro (Intel core duo, 2.4 GHz, 2 GB of RAM, GeForce 8600M GT 
> (256 MB VRAM)) came with Tiger (10.4).  I installed and ran VPython 24 
> without problems (at least I think there were no problems; I didn't try 
> every example program).
> 
> I just did a clean install of Leopard (10.5).  I installed the version 
> of X11 that came on the DVD; also XCode tools from the DVD.  I installed 
> the newest Fink.  Using that, I installed VPython2.5, from source.
> 
> After a struggle to reset X11 key/mouse preferences, and another 
> struggle to reconfigure IDLE, mouse input *mostly* works okay. But:

While I don't see your problems here, so I have no idea where they come 
from, there is something that you could test:

The Apple engineer maintaining X11 on Leopard is providing bug-fixed 
versions of the X server Xquartz and of libX11.6.dylib here:
<http://www.x.org/wiki/XDarwin>

Maybe installing these helps with some of your problems, too.

-- 
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Re: [Visualpython-users] gtk2-based beta version for Windows

[Martin C. <cos...@wa...>]

Bruce Sherwood wrote:
[]
> It has always been the case that gtk2 was available on Mac OSX, that 
> being a Unix-based operating system, but gtk2 connected to the X11 
> windowing system, which necessitated installing X11. There is a new and 
> rather raw version of gtk2 for the Mac which connects to the native 
> Quartz windowing system, and Steve Spicklemire is trying to build 
> VPython on the Mac using this new gtk2 software. If he succeeds, 
> installation on the Mac could be vastly simpler than it now is.

While we are waiting for the aqua version of gtk2 to mature, there is 
progress on the X11 front:

In Mac OSX 10.5, X11 is installed by default. In addition, you don't 
need to set any DISPLAY environment variable any more, and you don't 
need to start X11. If you run any X11-based command like vpython from 
the Terminal.app command line, even remotely over ssh, X11 starts up 
automatically.

-- 
Martin

[Visualpython-users] gtk2-based beta version for Windows

[Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...>]

VPython 4.beta20 eliminates almost all Windows-specific code in favor of 
gtk2, so that the source code for Visual is nearly universal across all 
platforms (gtk2 was originally developed for creating graphics user 
interfaces on Unix but has been ported to Windows and Macintosh). This 
version works at least as well as 4.beta16 but does not address all 
issues on Windows. The version number was advanced from 4.beta16 to 
4.beta20 as a marker that this represents a significant change.

New to the Windows beta version: At the top of a graphics window is a 
new icon to change right-button dragging to "pan" rather than rotate 
(and another icon to switch back). There are also icons to exit the 
program, switch to or from full-screen mode, and reset to the original 
camera position (this reset option is not yet working).

History: In late spring of 2006 Jonathan Brandmeyer completed the new 
version of VPython, with transparency, surface textures, and 
sophisticated lighting, based on gtk2. However, at that time it became 
evident that it was extraordinarily difficult to assemble all the 
components needed for gtk2-based development on Windows, so he wrote 
some Windows-specific code to substitute for the gtk2 code.

In the intervening time, installers that are much easier to use have 
become available, which made it feasible to return to Brandmeyer's 
original vision of using one code base for all platforms. The necessary 
gtk2 run-time components have been bundled into the VPython 4.beta20 
installer, so the end user doesn't have to install gtk2.

There remain only two small Windows-specific files, wintimer.cpp and 
winrate.cpp, needed due to the absence on Windows of the gettimeofday 
routine found on Unix.

It has always been the case that gtk2 was available on Mac OSX, that 
being a Unix-based operating system, but gtk2 connected to the X11 
windowing system, which necessitated installing X11. There is a new and 
rather raw version of gtk2 for the Mac which connects to the native 
Quartz windowing system, and Steve Spicklemire is trying to build 
VPython on the Mac using this new gtk2 software. If he succeeds, 
installation on the Mac could be vastly simpler than it now is.

Bruce Sherwood

Re: [Visualpython-users] Installing Vpython.beta16 on Fedora 8

[Bruce S. <Bru...@nc...>]

The problem seems to boil down to this (in build.log):

g++ -I/usr/include/python2.5 
-I/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/numpy/core/include -pthread 
(snip.....)
-I/usr/include/python2.5 
-I/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/numpy/core/include -fpic -DPIC 
-g -O2 -ftemplate-depth-120 -MMD -MF convex.d -MT "convex.d convex.lo" 
-c ./python/convex.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/convex.o
In file included from ../include/python/convex.hpp:12,
                  from ./python/convex.cpp:6:
../include/python/num_util.hpp:68:31: warning: numpy/arrayobject.h: No 
such file or directory

(Due to an infelicity in the autoconfigure machinery, you see 
"-I/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/numpy/core/include" not once 
but twice in the instructions for where to find the numpy includes.)

It appears from early in config.log that ${prefix} is /usr, not 
/usr/local. Here we see Python includes in /usr, but numpy includes in 
/usr/local. So somehow there's a mismatch, and possibly an error in the 
autoconfigure files not previously noticed. For starters, I suggest 
setting --prefix=/usr/local and trying again.

Bruce Sherwood

bradley wrote:
> I am having some trouble installing on Fedora 8.  I think its trying to 
> tell me I don't have numpy or numeric, but I definitely do.  The 
> build.log and config.log are attached.  I got the error while running make.
> 
> Would creating a symbolic link somewhere fix this?  I can confirm these 
> packages are installed...
> gcc-c++
> boost
> boost-devel
> gtkglextmm
> gtkglextmm-devel
> libglademm24-devel python
> numpy
> python-numarray
> numeric
> 
> Brad Longo
> 
> 

[Visualpython-users] VPython / Leopard (again)

[Ruth C. <rwc...@nc...>]

I do (still) see problems with VPython on Leopard.  Here's the gory detail:

My MacBook Pro (Intel core duo, 2.4 GHz, 2 GB of RAM, GeForce 8600M GT 
(256 MB VRAM)) came with Tiger (10.4).  I installed and ran VPython 24 
without problems (at least I think there were no problems; I didn't try 
every example program).

I just did a clean install of Leopard (10.5).  I installed the version 
of X11 that came on the DVD; also XCode tools from the DVD.  I installed 
the newest Fink.  Using that, I installed VPython2.5, from source.

After a struggle to reset X11 key/mouse preferences, and another 
struggle to reconfigure IDLE, mouse input *mostly* works okay. But:

On a number of the sample programs the rendering is wrong.  It looks as 
if the z clipping plane is much too close.  These include bounce.py, 
bounce2.py, gyro.py, gyro2.py, and toroid.py.  Parts of the scene are 
cut off, but become visible as one rotates the camera.

In tictac.py, I can't get mouse input to work. If I zoom out, I see an 
artifact at the bottom of the display.

glxgears runs okay (very fast).  glxinfo gives a long list of stuff that 
looks reasonable.  (Are there other OpenGL test programs I should try?)

In principle this could be a graphics card driver problem; if so I 
should have seen the same problems on Tiger. I didn't test every sample 
program, but I think I would have noticed...

    Ruth

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[Visualpython-users] Installing Vpython.beta16 on Fedora 8

[bradley <bj...@nc...>]

I am having some trouble installing on Fedora 8.  I think its trying to 
tell me I don't have numpy or numeric, but I definitely do.  The 
build.log and config.log are attached.  I got the error while running make.

Would creating a symbolic link somewhere fix this?  I can confirm these 
packages are installed...
gcc-c++
boost
boost-devel
gtkglextmm
gtkglextmm-devel
libglademm24-devel 
python
numpy
python-numarray
numeric

Brad Longo