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From: Newt <gen...@gm...> - 2009-09-10 19:38:31
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Hello M0E, 1.24, r790: I am still net getting the kernel copied to /mnt/target/boot. I'm looking back through gambas console and see: MdlMain.INSTALL_KERNEL_AND_INITRD.1035: Copying kernels and initrd now... Step9.Form_Open.101: Kernels installed MdlMain.Get_FULL_TLZ_PACKAGE.1719: vlconfig2 not found in ISO Step9.INSTALL_VL_CONFIG.271: vlconfig2 has been previously moved to the target Those debugging messages would seem to indicate that the kernel was installed however I can vouche that it does not show up in /mnt/target/boot. If the kernel is infact truly installed at one point then does the vlconfig2 package somehow mess with the kernel after-the-fact? Also, where does the kernel reside once the user ejects CD1 and inserts CD2? Cheers, newt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:07:07 AM, you wrote: ML> I think I have this bug squashed now... I'm getting the kernel now in ML> the correct place. I'd like for someone else to try with the updated ML> installed and see if it works. ML> I will run one more test to check things out, but my tests on vm are ML> really slow. ML> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ML> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day ML> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on ML> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with ML> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ML> _______________________________________________ ML> Vectorlinux-devel mailing list ML> Vec...@li... ML> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vectorlinux-devel |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-09-10 17:38:22
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About user icons, you can also set them up from "system settings" once you're loged in. KDM just has to be configured properly (I think it is now) to handle this, and of course, the theme has to support the icons. |
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From: Masta M. <mas...@gm...> - 2009-09-10 17:35:49
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KDM user icons will not show unless you select an icon during user setup. Otherwise the installer assumes that you do not want to use icons. And, the theme has to support user icons... just a note that the final theme will support them. If you forget to select a user icon during installation, you can log in root @ KDM and open System Settings/Advanced tab/Login Manager/Users tab/ ..then under "User Image Source" and "User Images", you can select an icon for your users there and apply. The Blebd theme for desktop does look nice. I use on my desktop while testing. However, I am not able to duplicate the issues described while changing settings and themes. Perhaps some systems might need to logout after changes? The menu not showing up, might be due to graphics driver. Try using the 16 color mode instead of the 24 color mode during installation (or edit xorg.conf instead) to see if this brings back the menu. If this is the case, the classic menu will work for you via right click on the menu icon. |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-09-10 17:07:19
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I think I have this bug squashed now... I'm getting the kernel now in the correct place. I'd like for someone else to try with the updated installed and see if it works. I will run one more test to check things out, but my tests on vm are really slow. |
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From: Newt <gen...@gm...> - 2009-09-10 16:51:49
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Hello, I was able to get this installed yesterday. I had to manually install the kernel from the source since, as Robert pointed out, it does not get installed. Skip the bootloader installation step. Chroot to target, edit lilo.conf and add entry, install lilo. Then finish up with installation. The default desktop experience has reverted to the leaf wallpaper, black theme, and Folder View. I'm still not totally decided on which I prefer - Desktop or Folder view. If widgets could be confined to the Widget Dashboard similar to the Mac OSX Dashboard, then my preference would be Folder view with Widget Dashboard quicklaunch on kde panel. However, since that doesn't seem possible at this time I guess I'm more partial to Desktop view with no widgets which is too bad because the addition of widgets is very nice eye candy. However, I find the widgets a useless addition without the ability to hide them - they lead to an overly cluttered visual experience. Regardless, this doesn't have much to do with VL1.24, just a rant :D I did notice that some things had also reverted: VasmCC does not start/not installed, opera lost it's menu icon, sound did not seem to be working as it always had. That's about were I stopped testing. I felt like the KDE experience had gone back a few renditions (i.e. circa 1.17). However, this was not the best test due to the installer issues relating to kernel installation, so I'll just mark this one as 'ignored' and happily wait for the next alpha. I did notice that KDE was upped to 4.3.1!! It's definitely progressing! Cheers, newt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 9:44:17 AM, you wrote: ua> new ISO ua> new installer ua> fixed initrd ua> ftp://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/Uelsk8s/test/VL6.0-SOHO-A1.24.iso ua> ftp://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/Uelsk8s/test/VL6.0-SOHO-A1.24-CD2.iso |
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From: Robert L. <vec...@ya...> - 2009-09-10 07:36:43
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BUG REPORT: CRITICAL!! I could not figure out why grub was not working with my default install partition until I realized there was no kernel installed there. Big bug no kernel installed to default boot partition.........everything else seemed to go fine tho....:) Cheers, Robert Robert Lange vec...@ya... http://www.vectorlinux.com --- On Wed, 9/9/09, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote: > From: uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> > Subject: [Vectorlinux-devel] VL6.0-SOHO-A1.24 > To: "Vector Linux developer's list" <vec...@li...> > Received: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 11:44 AM > new ISO > new installer > fixed initrd > > ftp://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/Uelsk8s/test/VL6.0-SOHO-A1.24.iso > > ftp://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/Uelsk8s/test/VL6.0-SOHO-A1.24-CD2.iso > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal > Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and > deployment - and focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's > new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Vectorlinux-devel mailing list > Vec...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vectorlinux-devel > __________________________________________________________________ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com |
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From: uel a. <ue...@gm...> - 2009-09-09 15:44:29
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new ISO new installer fixed initrd ftp://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/Uelsk8s/test/VL6.0-SOHO-A1.24.iso ftp://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/Uelsk8s/test/VL6.0-SOHO-A1.24-CD2.iso |
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From: uel a. <ue...@gm...> - 2009-09-09 05:52:43
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ftp://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/Uelsk8s/test/VL6.0-SOHO-A1.23.iso ftp://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/Uelsk8s/test/VL6.0-SOHO-A1.23-CD2.iso are up! new installer |
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From: Newt <gen...@gm...> - 2009-09-06 19:24:06
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Hello, Using default installer: I could not get past user creation to finish the installation/configuration. Using updated installer: Other problems prevented installation. Cheers, newt |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-09-02 19:26:14
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Check your user's .bashrc to make sure your keyboard model and map as well as LANG are preserved. keep in mind that your desktop will only follow the LANG variable if you chose to install the language package that matches your selection. |
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From: Newt <gen...@gm...> - 2009-09-02 19:17:16
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Hello All, Here are my notes on 1.21: -wifi-rader service fails -How can someone check that their options chosen in the installer are preserved to installed system? (Language/keyboard/mouse/etc). Based on Paul's comments, I suspect they are not carried over? KDM: -no users have images, but I did not specify any during install either. root does not have an image in 1.21. KDE: -Nepojuk Strigi is still somewhat verbose. -Played with Desktop vs Folder view and themes. I had not tried the KDE menu yet, but after playing with these settings I was not able to access the KDE menu (i.e. I click on it and the button would just blink - no menu popped up) -There are advantages and disadvantages to Desktop vs Folder views. I like both for different reasons. Folder view is more typical and what people are used to. Desktop is more eye candy and clean looking and new. The best option would be to allow users to choose between one or the other on first entering KDE with a graphical and verbal description of some of the features of each. Of course, if this feature is not already built by the KDE people then it's basically not an option. -The 'blend' theme, with it's bluish color scheme, blends well (no pun intended) with the VL blue color scheme. -Shortcut settings did not start for me (from upper-right menu); this was after playing with settings above -On 2nd boot, I discovered that the KDE menu "breaks" after changing themes. It works before changing themes and after it does not. Maybe it's just me? Cheers, newt |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-09-02 19:11:47
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Yeah... for some reason the idling message is not showing up on time... I will have to fix that |
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From: Paul M. <pa...@wa...> - 2009-09-02 19:01:15
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M0E Lnx wrote: > You should be geting a dialog box asking you to insert the second cd. > I cannot automate the eject action because it's not supported on all > devices, and it's a hit and miss even on those that do support it. Ok, didn't realise that. Maybe the message could be more explict? > The screen refreshing problem is a known bug for ages... for some > reason, and I'm willing to bet it's due to an old GTK the screen does > not refresh instantly... it takes a while to refresh... I can't find a > way to fix that Fair enough. > As far as the reboot button at the end goes. > > If the button is grayed out it means there is still some activity > going on in the background and it is not safe to reboot yet. there are > scripts runnin in the background to prepare the system for initial > boot. Hmm. Well, I left it for several minutes. All I had was an empty window headed "Your Vectorlinux installation", no sign of hard drive activity. I'll try again and see if waiting longer fixes it. > The process is normally finished by the time you reach the end of the > installer wizard, but if it is not, it should be telling you to wait > for the process to finish, the button will be enabled when it is safe > to reboot. Nothing about waiting. And it looked as though it was finished. At present, the keyboard selection stuff at the start of the install doesn't seem to do much (unless it affects the keyboard layout during the install?). At the end of the install, even though I had selected UK layout, I still had US layout. :) Its getting there, but still a way to go, I think.... paul. |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-09-02 17:25:04
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You should be geting a dialog box asking you to insert the second cd. I cannot automate the eject action because it's not supported on all devices, and it's a hit and miss even on those that do support it. The screen refreshing problem is a known bug for ages... for some reason, and I'm willing to bet it's due to an old GTK the screen does not refresh instantly... it takes a while to refresh... I can't find a way to fix that As far as the reboot button at the end goes. If the button is grayed out it means there is still some activity going on in the background and it is not safe to reboot yet. there are scripts runnin in the background to prepare the system for initial boot. The process is normally finished by the time you reach the end of the installer wizard, but if it is not, it should be telling you to wait for the process to finish, the button will be enabled when it is safe to reboot. |
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From: Paul M. <pa...@wa...> - 2009-09-02 17:15:22
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Just installed A1.21. I'm using my own Grub install, so I didn't see that problem, though I notice that my Windows partition is not showing up in the options for the boot loader. Install was pretty good. The problems with lag and strange screen updates that I was seeing are pretty well gone. However, I did hit a couple of other problems with the install. First (niggle rather than serious). I would prefer to see the old option of importing existing user records. Found it a bit confusing when it told me it had 'created' the user I used. Second, it would be nice to have a prompt to eject the first CD. On this machine at least, the installer simply sat until I ejected the first CD and inserted the second. It would be nice to either have it ejected when necessary, or prompt the user to eject and insert the second CD. Third, when the install completed, the Reboot button was greyed out. I had to push 'back', at which point the reboot button became active and I was able to select it. Forth, I made the mistake of minimising the installer while the install was in progress. When I brought it back up, it was essentially blank, except for the 'development team' scrolling list. A bit off-putting. It did come back when then next stage of the install started, but a means to refresh the display would be useful. After install, I had the same video problems I've been having with all the other alphas. After the login prompt, the screen goes white, then goes grey, and I'm left with a mouse cursor and nothing else. The only way to fix it is to use CTRL-ALT-BackSpace to kill X, then select the 'safe KDE' option. After that, the KDE desktop comes up ok. Well, sort of ok.... This install was to my T61 - Intel graphics, native resolution is 1280x800. Unfortunately, all the more recent alphas have come up in 1024x768 and not offered any higher resolution. I have to su, use init 3 and run Vasm to fix the problem. I still can't use any of the screen effects, even once the correct driver is loaded and working. I needed Vasm for another reason as well. During the first stage of the install, I selected a generic 104 key keyboard, UK layout. However, on first boot to the installed system, I have a US layout in both X and console. While I can fix most of these problems, I doubt that many in the target user base will have the necessary expertise to do so. I'm not a fan of Kmail, but the version with the new KDE seems to be badly broken. It failed to log in to my ISP to send mail (even though it is set up in exactly the same way as Seamonkey is set in 6.0 Standard). It then said the message I had entered would be left in outgoing. Only it wasn't. It seems to have eaten the outgoing message. I could not find any trace of it at all.... Its getting a lot better, but there is still a long way to go, I think.... paul |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-09-02 12:46:31
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I've tried so hard to sqash this bug, but it's jut not doing it. Maybe we should do it on first boot we can append the config file that runs on first boot if the user chooses grub for bootloader. |
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From: Robert L. <vec...@ya...> - 2009-09-02 08:18:33
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Hi All, Installed A1.21 a little while ago. I have to say we are ready for prime time now all but the grub bootloader went well no hickups even got a face for my user account. The bug I do have is that os-prober does not seem to be doing it's thing from installer I get the default for the partition im installing too and the recovery but no other partitions. After installation if I do grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg all works as expected all partitions are picked up with proper vector labels. So I expect all the goodies are in place just the os-prober part is not getting passed to the target partition during install. Other wise great job everyone !!! we are close ..........very close Cheers, Robert Robert Lange vec...@ya... http://www.vectorlinux.com __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-09-01 17:33:26
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I have added a quick check in the installer code to search for root's .face.icon If it is provided by vlconfig2, the code simply gets bypassed, otherwise, it defaults to /usr/share/apps/kdm/pics/users/root1.png As far as the skel goes, I dont know exacly how to do it... And what warning icons do you mean? |
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From: uel a. <ue...@gm...> - 2009-09-01 17:27:56
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I will check the font script it should still be running at first boot. we can add the root .face.icon to vlconfig2 we can add a good skel with the "Folder View" and the warning icons removed if someone wants to put that together also On 9/1/09, M0E Lnx <m0...@gm...> wrote: > > Just installed again here on a VM and here come the results. > > X did not start on first boot. Font problems, had to run the font scripts. > > KDM now shows the login pictures selected during installation.. nice ;) > > Root does not have a .face icon. Dont know if we should address that > from the installer or from somewhere else... Let me know. > > I think we should default the desktop style to "Folder View" and not > Desktop > Folder view will provide the users with a desktop style they are > familiar with. Icons go right into the desktop > Desktop provides the box on the desktop that shows the icons. This box > can be closed and all the sudden icons dissapear. I dont think this is > a good default configuration. > > Other than that, it worked for me. > Lilo worked too. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Vectorlinux-devel mailing list > Vec...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vectorlinux-devel > |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-09-01 15:25:06
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Just installed again here on a VM and here come the results. X did not start on first boot. Font problems, had to run the font scripts. KDM now shows the login pictures selected during installation.. nice ;) Root does not have a .face icon. Dont know if we should address that from the installer or from somewhere else... Let me know. I think we should default the desktop style to "Folder View" and not Desktop Folder view will provide the users with a desktop style they are familiar with. Icons go right into the desktop Desktop provides the box on the desktop that shows the icons. This box can be closed and all the sudden icons dissapear. I dont think this is a good default configuration. Other than that, it worked for me. Lilo worked too. |
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From: Roy S. <nig...@ci...> - 2009-09-01 13:24:17
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Boring. Conservative. Familiar. Safe. That's me. I still use KDE 3.5. I made an ISO using the VL6 base and KDE 3.5.10. It is in no way intended to compete with SOHO or detract from the development and testing of it. It is a time saving measure for those who want KDE3 without having to manually add it themselves. No branding or customizations beyond a profile with a common theme and some file associations. Think of it as an upgrade to Light, a last salute to the VL "classic" branch. I would welcome your comments, or even a test spin if any of you have some spare time. http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-6.0/iso-test/ Roy |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-09-01 12:48:18
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Installed last night, but real quickly just to test the lilo stuff. Will install here later today to test the KDM stuff |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-09-01 12:47:29
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I installed this one last night and it worked like a charm ;) Of course, it was a VM with it being the lone OS on it, so I can't say if it works with other OS's present. |
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From: uel a. <ue...@gm...> - 2009-09-01 04:50:30
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new ISO up CD2 same as 1.19-CD2 new installer initrd in vclonfig2 pkg M0E's kdmrc bashrc fixed? |
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From: uel a. <ue...@gm...> - 2009-09-01 04:26:09
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the initrd is suposed to be created at install time. im not sure why the one being created is empty, so In 1.20 I put one in the vlconfig2 pkg until we can figure that out. On 8/31/09, M0E Lnx <m0...@gm...> wrote: > > I was under the impression that the initrd did not need to be copied.. > that it would be provided by vlconfig2 along with theming > customizations and things of that sort. > > If it is not currently in vlconfig2, we need to supply something for > the time being in case the themes are not ready yet. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Vectorlinux-devel mailing list > Vec...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vectorlinux-devel > |
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