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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Vl-Dyn-5.9.8.9 bug report - UKB

[HQX N. <hq...@gm...>]

Another thing on X Server

A while ago I found this little eror is present in the last releases:

In /etc/fonts/fonts.conf , around line 27 there are entries missing
for the fonts, such as
<dir>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi</dir>
<dir>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi</dir>
<dir>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc</dir>

I have verified that these being absent there prevents _some_
applications (i.e. Firefox, Seamonkey and others) to use the fonts in
those directories. (If you are thinking that is "corrected" by having
them in xorg.conf, that doesn=B4t happen)

Also, in xorg.conf (I dont know if in fonts.conf too), the lines for
these folders should look like this:

  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz:unscaled"


HTH
UKBill

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Vl-Dyn-5.9.8.9 bug report - UKB

[Jose J. R. <jo...@gm...>]

On 8/6/06, HQX Net <hq...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > installation/configuration stages but twice at the config stage.
> > > >
> >
> > Once for the console and once for X. However, like I posted before
> > about 5.9.7.4, I still have problems getting the spanish keymaps to
> > take on 5.9.8.9.
>
>
> I was almost sure the 5.0/5.1 would ask only once. IIRC Kocil had
> managed to do that?
>

Found this error line: "/sbin/vkmapset: line 219: set_xkeymap: command
not found".

> > > > ** If the system boots stright to runlevel 4 the keymap is wrong,
> > > > AltGr doesn't work and I cant switch to tty2 by pressing Ctl+Alt+F2=
.
> > > > It does work if I Kill the Xserver > init 2 > startx  0_o
> > > >
> > >
> > > Could the inability to switch tty's be an /etc/inittab error?
>
> I couldn=B4t tell, but FWIW, booting to runlevel 2 and switching
> consoles (both in console mode and after a "startx") works fine.
>

I have no problems switching tty's after booting directly to gui mode
in 5.9.8.9.

Regards,
Joe1962

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Vl-Dyn-5.9.8.9 bug report - UKB

[Kocil <k0...@ya...>]

WELCOME BACK UK ....:-O
  

HQX Net <hq...@gm...> wrote:
  Vl-Dyn-5.9.8.9 bug report

I got the latest iso, very nice indeed, great packages selection (as usual)

These are the bugs I hit (mostly minor, didn't make any strechting of
the installation either):

---- INSTALL ----
** Some typos and grammar in the Readme:
- The first paragraph is odd, has "flavour" too many times.
- When mentioning the kernel source/headers says "for your hacking
convenient", wich sounds as a typo to me.
- In "New libraries" > Multimedia > "mesh with" should be "mess with"?
- in "Acknowledgments" > "of cource" should be "of course".


---- FIRST BOOT - X CONFIGURATION ----

** The console didn't fit well in the graph behind it, so it
overlapped the frame at the right side. I guess it was 1 or 2 columns
too wide.

** I _think_ I was asked to select my keymap twice. Not the usual
installation/configuration stages but twice at the config stage.

** The installer didn't detect my monitor's Sync values, so X testing
failed during the install and could start without further
configuration. The process kept on fine beyond that.

** Bootsplash. At 800x600 the progress bar doesn't, well... progress.

** If the system boots stright to runlevel 4 the keymap is wrong,
AltGr doesn't work and I cant switch to tty2 by pressing Ctl+Alt+F2.
It does work if I Kill the Xserver > init 2 > startx 0_o


---- PACKAGES -----

** Xpdf is missing libt1.so.1
** gyachi is missing libltdl.so.3

** LinNeighborhood seems to be missing the patch that makes it samba 3
compatible:
http://www.bnro.de/~schmidjo/faq/index.html#faq17

Btw, I have seen distros where the full samba is NOT required for
LinNeighborhood to be able to browse and share mounts.


---- XFCE Menu ----
** Found many apps are missing from the menu. As they aren't mentioned
anywhere else either, they are not noticed and, what's worse, the
distro seems to use too much space for few apps.
- Missing: d4x, dillo, grsync, putty, knocker, LinNeighborhood, medit,
epdfview, xpdf, xchm, lmms, xcdroast, Aterm, mrxvt.
- Misplaced: xchat, gmplayer, xine.


keep up the excelent work!
Kudos :)
UKBill

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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Vl-Dyn-5.9.8.9 bug report - UKB

[HQX N. <hq...@gm...>]

> > > installation/configuration stages but twice at the config stage.
> > >
>
> Once for the console and once for X. However, like I posted before
> about 5.9.7.4, I still have problems getting the spanish keymaps to
> take on 5.9.8.9.


I was almost sure the 5.0/5.1 would ask only once. IIRC Kocil had
managed to do that?

> > > ** If the system boots stright to runlevel 4 the keymap is wrong,
> > > AltGr doesn't work and I cant switch to tty2 by pressing Ctl+Alt+F2.
> > > It does work if I Kill the Xserver > init 2 > startx  0_o
> > >
> >
> > Could the inability to switch tty's be an /etc/inittab error?

I couldn=B4t tell, but FWIW, booting to runlevel 2 and switching
consoles (both in console mode and after a "startx") works fine.

Regards.

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Vl-Dyn-5.9.8.9 bug report - UKB

[Jose J. R. <jo...@gm...>]

Got a few things to say about Dynamite by now, though I've not really
had a chance for extensive testing, but before I forget....

On 8/5/06, John B <joh...@gm...> wrote:
> UKB,
>
> LTNS! Thanks for your feedback. I'll intersperse my replies with your comments.
>
> John
>
> On 8/5/06, HQX Net <hq...@gm...> wrote:
> > Vl-Dyn-5.9.8.9 bug report
> >
> > I got the latest iso, very nice indeed, great packages selection (as usual)
> >

Agreed...

>
> > ---- FIRST BOOT - X CONFIGURATION ----
> >
> > ** I _think_ I was asked to select my keymap twice. Not the usual
> > installation/configuration stages but twice at the config stage.
> >

Once for the console and once for X. However, like I posted before
about 5.9.7.4, I still have problems getting the spanish keymaps to
take on 5.9.8.9.

> >
> > ** The installer didn't detect my monitor's Sync values, so X testing
> > failed during the install and could start without further
> > configuration. The process kept on fine beyond that.
> >

Inside qemu, the X autoconf would lock up the VM and I had to do a
system_reset on the qemu console after I got tired of waiting ;). On
reboot, I had to manually run vasm autoconf after unselecting X config
so the full configuration session was performed. A fully manual text
mode xorgconfig then did it for X.

On the physical hardware install, X autoconf ran through normally and
gave a working config for the ATI X600 (no 3D of course). Native LCD
resolution was correctly recognized using the last option ("let X
handle it").

> >
> > ** Bootsplash. At 800x600 the progress bar doesn't, well... progress.
> >

I didn't go for the bootsplash, so I could see if something obviously
wrong scrolled by in the messages, so I tried standard text mode in
qemu and framebuffer 1024x768@256 in the physical install. Both
worked, however, for cosmetic reasons, we should really look into
loosing the many "cat /proc/splash   file not found" messages when not
using the bootsplash.

> >
> > ** If the system boots stright to runlevel 4 the keymap is wrong,
> > AltGr doesn't work and I cant switch to tty2 by pressing Ctl+Alt+F2.
> > It does work if I Kill the Xserver > init 2 > startx  0_o
> >
>
> Could the inability to switch tty's be an /etc/inittab error?
>
> >

Hmm... forgot to test this in 5.9.8.9!

> >
> > ---- XFCE Menu ----
> > ** Found many apps are missing from the menu. As they aren't mentioned
> > anywhere else either, they are not noticed and, what's worse, the
> > distro seems to use too much space for few apps.
> > - Missing: d4x, dillo, grsync, putty, knocker, LinNeighborhood, medit,
> > epdfview, xpdf, xchm, lmms, xcdroast, Aterm,  mrxvt.
> > - Misplaced: xchat, gmplayer, xine.
> >
>
> For the missing apps, it's just a matter of a .desktop file being put
> into /usr/share/applications to add the app to the menu. For the other
> apps, it's a matter of correcting the .desktop file in
> /usr/share/applications so that they show up in the right places.
>
> >

Yes, but just a little point to keep in mind when we do the KDE stuff
for SOHO 5.8: Any KDE Desktop icons that don't work or don't make
sense in XFCE should have the "OnlyShowIn=KDE" or the "NotShowIn=XFCE"
switch in them.

> >
> > keep up the excelent work!
> > Kudos :)

Indeed!

Regards,
Joe1962

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Some artwork files

[John B <joh...@gm...>]

On 8/5/06, HQX Net <hq...@gm...> wrote:
> Cheers guys,
>
> I made a couple of graphics you might find handy.
---snip---

> PS: if you want me to re-pack all of the artwork files and mail it or upload
> it somewhere, let me know.


UKB,

If you can create an ssh public-private key pair for your box and
e-mail the public key to me, I'll add you to the authorized users for
our upload repository. Here's how to do the ssh keys using VL:

1) Open a terminal.
2) Type ssh-keygen -t rsa at the command prompt. A public-private key
pair will be generated.
3) You will be prompted for a passphrase. While not absolutely
necessary, it's a good idea to have one.
4) The public key file will be saved in a text file located at
~/.ssh/rsa_id.pub.

If you need to use a Windows box, PuTTY is the recommended SSH client.
Use PuTTYgen to generate a key pair. The key pair needs to be SSH-2
(either RSA or DSA will be fine). Click the Generate button in the
PuTTYgen window and follow the prompts. Once the key is generated,
copy the key from the part of the PuTTYgen window marked "Public key
for pasting into SSH authorized_keys file" and paste it into the body
of an e-mail (plain text format, please).

Once you have generated the key, e-mail it to me at joh...@gm...
as a file attachment (preferred). If you have to put the key in the
body of the e-mail (the case with PuTTYgen), use plain text as your
e-mail format. Since I get a fair amount of e-mail daily, format your
subject line like this:

VLforumname - SSH key

Cheers,
John

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Vl-Dyn-5.9.8.9 bug report - UKB

[John B <joh...@gm...>]

UKB,

LTNS! Thanks for your feedback. I'll intersperse my replies with your comments.

John

On 8/5/06, HQX Net <hq...@gm...> wrote:
> Vl-Dyn-5.9.8.9 bug report
>
> I got the latest iso, very nice indeed, great packages selection (as usual)
>
> These are the bugs I hit (mostly minor, didn't make any strechting of
> the installation either):
>
> ---- INSTALL ----
> ** Some typos and grammar in the Readme:
>  - The first paragraph is odd, has "flavour" too many times.

I think that can be fixed. ;-)

>  - When mentioning the kernel source/headers says "for your hacking
> convenient", wich sounds as a typo to me.

Agreed. It should probably read "for your hacking pleasure." ;-)

>  - In "New libraries" > Multimedia > "mesh with" should be "mess with"?
>  - in "Acknowledgments" >  "of cource" should be "of course".
>
>

Correct on both counts.

> ---- FIRST BOOT - X CONFIGURATION ----
>
> ** The console didn't fit well in the graph behind it, so it
> overlapped the frame at the right side. I guess it was 1 or 2 columns
> too wide.
>
> ** I _think_ I was asked to select my keymap twice. Not the usual
> installation/configuration stages but twice at the config stage.
>
> ** The installer didn't detect my monitor's Sync values, so X testing
> failed during the install and could start without further
> configuration. The process kept on fine beyond that.
>
> ** Bootsplash. At 800x600 the progress bar doesn't, well... progress.
>
> ** If the system boots stright to runlevel 4 the keymap is wrong,
> AltGr doesn't work and I cant switch to tty2 by pressing Ctl+Alt+F2.
> It does work if I Kill the Xserver > init 2 > startx  0_o
>

Could the inability to switch tty's be an /etc/inittab error?


>
> ---- PACKAGES -----
>
> ** Xpdf is missing libt1.so.1
> ** gyachi is missing libltdl.so.3

The t1lib package changed from VL 5.x to the current dynamite. We
should definitely build xpdf against the glibc, etc., in the current
dynamite. As far as gyachi goes, IIRC, the package was a prebuilt
binary against another Linux. Kocil, please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> ** LinNeighborhood seems to be missing the patch that makes it samba 3
> compatible:
> http://www.bnro.de/~schmidjo/faq/index.html#faq17
>
> Btw, I have seen distros where the full samba is NOT required for
> LinNeighborhood to be able to browse and share mounts.
>

Good point. BTW, I think the only reason we've included a full samba
is that some folks use their VL boxes for sharing with Winderz boxen.

>
> ---- XFCE Menu ----
> ** Found many apps are missing from the menu. As they aren't mentioned
> anywhere else either, they are not noticed and, what's worse, the
> distro seems to use too much space for few apps.
> - Missing: d4x, dillo, grsync, putty, knocker, LinNeighborhood, medit,
> epdfview, xpdf, xchm, lmms, xcdroast, Aterm,  mrxvt.
> - Misplaced: xchat, gmplayer, xine.
>

For the missing apps, it's just a matter of a .desktop file being put
into /usr/share/applications to add the app to the menu. For the other
apps, it's a matter of correcting the .desktop file in
/usr/share/applications so that they show up in the right places.

>
> keep up the excelent work!
> Kudos :)
> UKBill

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] Some artwork files

[Sriram D. <sri...@gm...>]

cool art UKBill,
 does any one know how to change the
bootmanager background,
login manager background
and the current desktop background  ?
that would be cool
cheers
ram

On 8/5/06, HQX Net <hq...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Cheers guys,
>
> I made a couple of graphics you might find handy.
> I made the numbers from 0-9 for future releases, a LiveCD png, and a
> Dynamite png.
>
> These are made along the lines of the official logo style, except for the
> Dynamite, for wich I also made a very different version. I am not sure this
> should be used at all, as it kinda breaks the style. Then again Dynamite has
> a personality of it's own, (as it shows in the latest beta).
>
> Anyway, you can get them here, and use (or not) as you please.
>
> http://usuarios.lycos.es/ukbill/vector/artwork/
>
> Best regards.
>
> PS: if you want me to re-pack all of the artwork files and mail it or
> upload it somewhere, let me know.
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[Vectorlinux-devel] Vl-Dyn-5.9.8.9 bug report - UKB

[HQX N. <hq...@gm...>]

Vl-Dyn-5.9.8.9 bug report

I got the latest iso, very nice indeed, great packages selection (as usual)

These are the bugs I hit (mostly minor, didn't make any strechting of
the installation either):

---- INSTALL ----
** Some typos and grammar in the Readme:
 - The first paragraph is odd, has "flavour" too many times.
 - When mentioning the kernel source/headers says "for your hacking
convenient", wich sounds as a typo to me.
 - In "New libraries" > Multimedia > "mesh with" should be "mess with"?
 - in "Acknowledgments" >  "of cource" should be "of course".


---- FIRST BOOT - X CONFIGURATION ----

** The console didn't fit well in the graph behind it, so it
overlapped the frame at the right side. I guess it was 1 or 2 columns
too wide.

** I _think_ I was asked to select my keymap twice. Not the usual
installation/configuration stages but twice at the config stage.

** The installer didn't detect my monitor's Sync values, so X testing
failed during the install and could start without further
configuration. The process kept on fine beyond that.

** Bootsplash. At 800x600 the progress bar doesn't, well... progress.

** If the system boots stright to runlevel 4 the keymap is wrong,
AltGr doesn't work and I cant switch to tty2 by pressing Ctl+Alt+F2.
It does work if I Kill the Xserver > init 2 > startx  0_o


---- PACKAGES -----

** Xpdf is missing libt1.so.1
** gyachi is missing libltdl.so.3

** LinNeighborhood seems to be missing the patch that makes it samba 3
compatible:
http://www.bnro.de/~schmidjo/faq/index.html#faq17

Btw, I have seen distros where the full samba is NOT required for
LinNeighborhood to be able to browse and share mounts.


---- XFCE Menu ----
** Found many apps are missing from the menu. As they aren't mentioned
anywhere else either, they are not noticed and, what's worse, the
distro seems to use too much space for few apps.
- Missing: d4x, dillo, grsync, putty, knocker, LinNeighborhood, medit,
epdfview, xpdf, xchm, lmms, xcdroast, Aterm,  mrxvt.
- Misplaced: xchat, gmplayer, xine.


keep up the excelent work!
Kudos :)
UKBill

[Vectorlinux-devel] Some artwork files

[HQX N. <hq...@gm...>]

Cheers guys,

I made a couple of graphics you might find handy.
I made the numbers from 0-9 for future releases, a LiveCD png, and a
Dynamite png.

These are made along the lines of the official logo style, except for the
Dynamite, for wich I also made a very different version. I am not sure this
should be used at all, as it kinda breaks the style. Then again Dynamite has
a personality of it's own, (as it shows in the latest beta).

Anyway, you can get them here, and use (or not) as you please.

http://usuarios.lycos.es/ukbill/vector/artwork/

Best regards.

PS: if you want me to re-pack all of the artwork files and mail it or upload
it somewhere, let me know.

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] forum hacked (again)

[hanumizzle <han...@gm...>]

On 8/4/06, Sriram Durbha <sri...@gm...> wrote:
> why dont we just move to google groups?
> is there anything we need in a forum that we cannot get from google groups ?
> apart from categories maybe?
> cheers
> ram

It would seem very unnatural, I think.

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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] forum hacked (again)

[Sriram D. <sri...@gm...>]

why dont we just move to google groups?
is there anything we need in a forum that we cannot get from google groups ?
apart from categories maybe?
cheers
ram

On 8/4/06, hanumizzle <han...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Consider eblah...please (rarely gets hacked):
>
> http://www.eblah.com
>
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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] New VL Repository

[hanumizzle <han...@gm...>]

On 8/2/06, Sriram Durbha <sri...@gm...> wrote:
> hi all,
> how to effectively collect dependency info ? does checkinstall etc already
> do [part of ] that?
> cheers
> ram

I  like the hands on approach and use makeslapt to collect dependency
info. Then I rm the package it creates, check that the dependency info
it reported is OK, then do makepkg after I think everything is
correct.

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] GPL Issues surrounding Mepis and the can of worms he opened.

[hanumizzle <han...@gm...>]

On 8/2/06, Sriram Durbha <sri...@gm...> wrote:
> I found this on a slashdot discussion. thought it is relevant to what we are
> discussing here. also mepis is in the clear now!!
> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=192928&cid=15834367
> cheers
> ram

Perhaps Brijeskji should know this? :)

[Vectorlinux-devel] forum hacked (again)

[hanumizzle <han...@gm...>]

Consider eblah...please (rarely gets hacked):

http://www.eblah.com

Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] new dynamite iso

[Vanger <fa...@gm...>]

On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:46:43 +0400, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...>  
wrote:

> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdyn-5.9.8.8to5.9.8.9.delta<http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdynamite-5.9.8.7.iso>


Why is this delta so big?
And, please, rerun trigger-vectorlinux once again. It is hard to place  
sftp to a download.sh script ;) .

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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] new dynamite iso

[Sriram D. <sri...@gm...>]

uel,
 i can confirm that i had sound card detection issues also,
and the login manager wouldnt allow non root ids to login , but some how on=
e
id works now ;
during boot, there is an error message about /proc not being available.
i will copy it later in the evening today.
network worked, compared to the previous dynamite.
cheers
ram

On 8/3/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
>
> wdm is working for me anyone else having problems with it?
> we tried out qingy but decided against it so it isnt on 5.9.8.X
>
>
>
> On 8/3/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > here is another dynamite
> > http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdynam=
ite-5.9.8.9.iso
> >
> > <http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdyna=
mite-5.9.8.7.iso>
> > and delta
> > http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdyn-5=
.9.8.8to5.9.8.9.delta
> >
> > <http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdyna=
mite-5.9.8.7.iso>
> > let me know if anyone needs a delta from a different version
> >
> >
> > kocil
> > are you sure proc is not mounted?
> > check /proc/mounts
> > anyway it is mounted for me
> > also 2 things quit working and I would appreciate your help tracking
> > them down
> > 1)valsaconf doesnt detect sound cards anymor but alsaconf does  (in
> > 5.9.8.9 we moved valsaconf to valsaconf.old and symlinked valsaconf to
> > alsaconf)
> > 2)checkinstall -L    checkinstall -G still works??
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Uel Archuletta
> >
> >
> > On 8/3/06, Kocil < k0...@ya...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all.
> > >
> > > I've installed the new VL-Dyn 5.9.8.8. Some problems :
> > > - Sound card was not detected during installation.
> > > - /proc was not mounted
> > > - With default boot mode=3D4, sometimes the GUI did not start.
> > > - wdm does not work, only the classic xdm (have we switched to qingqy
> > > ?)
> > >
> > >  The XFCE4 is pretty good though.
> > > I hope the problems are only in my machine.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *uel archuletta < ue...@gm...>* wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks John
> > > I probly would known that if i would have read the instructions
> > > better  :)
> > >
> > > the iso is available here
> > >
> > > http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdyn=
amite-5.9.8.8.iso
> > > I wouldnt bother with the delta as its practically the same size as
> > > the iso
> > > here is an md5sum
> > >
> > > http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdyn=
amite-5.9.8.8.iso.md5
> > > 04de438a8b06363c8755ae93ca0b2a49  VLdynamite-5.9.8.8.iso
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Uel Archuletta
> > >  On 7/31/06, John B <joh...@gm...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Uel and all who have access to the vectorlinux account,
> > > >
> > > > You need to run the trigger-vectorlinux script after you make any
> > > > update, no matter how trivial, to the repository. Otherwise, the
> > > > changes won't be pushed out to the other boxes at osuosl.org that
> > > > handle the bulk of the ftp traffic. The script is in the
> > > > /home/vectorlinux directory. Once it's run, it takes about 5 minute=
s
> > > > for the changes to propagate to the other boxes.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/31/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > > have you tried logging in to ftp-osl and checking that way?
> > > > > all i can think of is that maybe the files are not public yet
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/31/06, Vanger < fa...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > > > You are looking in
> > > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:47:21 +0400, uel archuletta <
> > > > ue...@gm...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > ftp-osl:/~/Repo/veclinux-current/iso-test
> > > > > > and everything is there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are looking in
> > > > > >
> > > > > http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/
> > > > > > and there is nothing, exept of old 5.9.7.4
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe, somehow we are looking in different directories?
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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] new dynamite iso

[uel a. <ue...@gm...>]

wdm is working for me anyone else having problems with it?
we tried out qingy but decided against it so it isnt on 5.9.8.X


On 8/3/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
>
> here is another dynamite
> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdynamit=
e-5.9.8.9.iso
>
> <http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdynami=
te-5.9.8.7.iso>
> and delta
> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdyn-5.9=
.8.8to5.9.8.9.delta
>
> <http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdynami=
te-5.9.8.7.iso>
> let me know if anyone needs a delta from a different version
>
>
> kocil
> are you sure proc is not mounted?
> check /proc/mounts
> anyway it is mounted for me
> also 2 things quit working and I would appreciate your help tracking them
> down
> 1)valsaconf doesnt detect sound cards anymor but alsaconf does  (in
> 5.9.8.9 we moved valsaconf to valsaconf.old and symlinked valsaconf to
> alsaconf)
> 2)checkinstall -L    checkinstall -G still works??
>
> Thanks,
> Uel Archuletta
>
>
> On 8/3/06, Kocil <k0...@ya...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I've installed the new VL-Dyn 5.9.8.8. Some problems :
> > - Sound card was not detected during installation.
> > - /proc was not mounted
> > - With default boot mode=3D4, sometimes the GUI did not start.
> > - wdm does not work, only the classic xdm (have we switched to qingqy ?=
)
> >
> >  The XFCE4 is pretty good though.
> > I hope the problems are only in my machine.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> >
> >
> > *uel archuletta < ue...@gm...>* wrote:
> >
> > Thanks John
> > I probly would known that if i would have read the instructions better
> > :)
> >
> > the iso is available here
> >
> > http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdynam=
ite-5.9.8.8.iso
> > I wouldnt bother with the delta as its practically the same size as the
> > iso
> > here is an md5sum
> >
> > http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdynam=
ite-5.9.8.8.iso.md5
> > 04de438a8b06363c8755ae93ca0b2a49  VLdynamite-5.9.8.8.iso
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Uel Archuletta
> >  On 7/31/06, John B <joh...@gm...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Uel and all who have access to the vectorlinux account,
> > >
> > > You need to run the trigger-vectorlinux script after you make any
> > > update, no matter how trivial, to the repository. Otherwise, the
> > > changes won't be pushed out to the other boxes at osuosl.org that
> > > handle the bulk of the ftp traffic. The script is in the
> > > /home/vectorlinux directory. Once it's run, it takes about 5 minutes
> > > for the changes to propagate to the other boxes.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/31/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > have you tried logging in to ftp-osl and checking that way?
> > > > all i can think of is that maybe the files are not public yet
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/31/06, Vanger < fa...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > > You are looking in
> > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:47:21 +0400, uel archuletta <
> > > ue...@gm...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > ftp-osl:/~/Repo/veclinux-current/iso-test
> > > > > and everything is there.
> > > > >
> > > > > We are looking in
> > > > >
> > > > http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/
> > > > > and there is nothing, exept of old 5.9.7.4
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe, somehow we are looking in different directories?
> > > > >
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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] new dynamite iso

[uel a. <ue...@gm...>]

here is another dynamite
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdynamite-=
5.9.8.9.iso
<http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdynamite=
-5.9.8.7.iso>
and delta
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdyn-5.9.8=
.8to5.9.8.9.delta<http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/is=
o-test/VLdynamite-5.9.8.7.iso>
let me know if anyone needs a delta from a different version


kocil
are you sure proc is not mounted?
check /proc/mounts
anyway it is mounted for me
also 2 things quit working and I would appreciate your help tracking them
down
1)valsaconf doesnt detect sound cards anymor but alsaconf does  (in
5.9.8.9we moved valsaconf to
valsaconf.old and symlinked valsaconf to alsaconf)
2)checkinstall -L    checkinstall -G still works??

Thanks,
Uel Archuletta

On 8/3/06, Kocil <k0...@ya...> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I've installed the new VL-Dyn 5.9.8.8. Some problems :
> - Sound card was not detected during installation.
> - /proc was not mounted
> - With default boot mode=3D4, sometimes the GUI did not start.
> - wdm does not work, only the classic xdm (have we switched to qingqy ?)
>
> The XFCE4 is pretty good though.
> I hope the problems are only in my machine.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
> *uel archuletta <ue...@gm...>* wrote:
>
> Thanks John
> I probly would known that if i would have read the instructions better  :=
)
>
> the iso is available here
>
> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdynamit=
e-5.9.8.8.iso
> I wouldnt bother with the delta as its practically the same size as the
> iso
> here is an md5sum
>
> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdynamit=
e-5.9.8.8.iso.md5
> 04de438a8b06363c8755ae93ca0b2a49  VLdynamite-5.9.8.8.iso
>
>
> Thanks
> Uel Archuletta
> On 7/31/06, John B <joh...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > Uel and all who have access to the vectorlinux account,
> >
> > You need to run the trigger-vectorlinux script after you make any
> > update, no matter how trivial, to the repository. Otherwise, the
> > changes won't be pushed out to the other boxes at osuosl.org that
> > handle the bulk of the ftp traffic. The script is in the
> > /home/vectorlinux directory. Once it's run, it takes about 5 minutes
> > for the changes to propagate to the other boxes.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> > On 7/31/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
> > > have you tried logging in to ftp-osl and checking that way?
> > > all i can think of is that maybe the files are not public yet
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/31/06, Vanger < fa...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > You are looking in
> > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:47:21 +0400, uel archuletta <
> > ue...@gm...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > ftp-osl:/~/Repo/veclinux-current/iso-test
> > > > and everything is there.
> > > >
> > > > We are looking in
> > > >
> > > http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/
> > > > and there is nothing, exept of old 5.9.7.4
> > > >
> > > > Maybe, somehow we are looking in different directories?
> > > >
> > > > --
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l/
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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] new dynamite iso

[Kocil <k0...@ya...>]

Hi all.
   
  I've installed the new VL-Dyn 5.9.8.8. Some problems :
  - Sound card was not detected during installation.
  - /proc was not mounted
  - With default boot mode=4, sometimes the GUI did not start.
  - wdm does not work, only the classic xdm (have we switched to qingqy ?)
   
  The XFCE4 is pretty good though.
  I hope the problems are only in my machine.
   
  Cheers.
   
  

uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
  Thanks John
I probly would known that if i would have read the instructions better  :)

the iso is available here
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdynamite-5.9.8.8.iso
I wouldnt bother with the delta as its practically the same size as the iso
here is an md5sum
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/VLdynamite-5.9.8.8.iso.md5
04de438a8b06363c8755ae93ca0b2a49  VLdynamite-5.9.8.8.iso


Thanks
Uel Archuletta
  On 7/31/06, John B <joh...@gm...> wrote:  Uel and all who have access to the vectorlinux account,

You need to run the trigger-vectorlinux script after you make any
update, no matter how trivial, to the repository. Otherwise, the
changes won't be pushed out to the other boxes at osuosl.org that
handle the bulk of the ftp traffic. The script is in the
/home/vectorlinux directory. Once it's run, it takes about 5 minutes
for the changes to propagate to the other boxes. 

Thanks,
John


On 7/31/06, uel archuletta <ue...@gm...> wrote:
> have you tried logging in to ftp-osl and checking that way?
> all i can think of is that maybe the files are not public yet 
>
>
>
>
> On 7/31/06, Vanger < fa...@gm...> wrote:
> > You are looking in
> > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:47:21 +0400, uel archuletta < ue...@gm...>
> > wrote:
> > > ftp-osl:/~/Repo/veclinux-current/iso-test
> > and everything is there.
> >
> > We are looking in 
> >
> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/veclinux-current/iso-test/
> > and there is nothing, exept of old 5.9.7.4
> >
> > Maybe, somehow we are looking in different directories?
> >
> > --
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> >
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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] new dynamite iso

[Vanger <fa...@gm...>]

> I wouldnt bother with the delta as its practically the same size as the  
> iso
Can you make 5.9.8.8 -> 5.9.8.9 delta? Or tell what was changed in it?
Because for me to download an iso (once again) means an 24-hour full load  
of the channel.


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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] GPL Issues surrounding Mepis and the can of worms he opened.

[Sriram D. <sri...@gm...>]

I found this on a slashdot discussion. thought it is relevant to what we are
discussing here. also mepis is in the clear now!!
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=192928&cid=15834367
cheers
ram
On 7/7/06, Sriram Durbha <sri...@gm...> wrote:
>
> OK here is the situation.
>  There are some components, like binary codecs, windoze wireless drivers,
> gfx drivers,  which are not safe to use for distribution.
> VL will continue to remain a useful OS without those components also.
> Ubuntu does not come with a codec pack by default either, we have to
> follow a customization guide or follow the EasyBuntu guide.
> So we can follow that approach and be safe.
>
> Also Should some crackpot decide to sue , they can only sue the DISTRO ..
> as an organization, not us as individuals.
> Even If it does come to the individuals.. We can clearly identify who will
> be responsible to take the blame.   And we dont have to be on that list if
> we dont want to.
>
> For example, if you create the VL6Base, and Kocil creates the new
> installer/packaging system.  You two are in no way responsible for the
> binary drivers getting to teh end user.
>
> If i make the final ISO with the binary drivers, if some one sues, they
> have to sue me. not you or Kocil;
> This way, we can proceed with the distro.
>
> Personally im not in VL for financial benefit.  I dont mind being on the
> line to be sued either. Becasue im going to take precautions to make sure i
> cannot be sued. Atleast that way those who only do development work need not
> worry.
>
> putting it on a public repository is not the same as distribution.
>
> cheers
> ram
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/7/06, hanumizzle < han...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > On 7/6/06, Tony Brijeski < tb...@gm...> wrote:
> > > Yes but Novell, Redhat, and the other bigger ones can afford to find
> > out in
> > > court - I can't and won't.
> > >
> > > As soon as we "distribute" it to the VL repo, we are in the same boat
> > as any
> > > other commercial distro and are liable for the same reason.
> >
> > All the IP problems you've identified so far are not inherent problems
> > of the distro, just particular pieces of software. I think it would be
> > a bit of a pain to download the w32 dll codecs separately, but I am
> > certain those who appreciate this distro are willing to put in that
> > effort to stay legal.
> >
> > > Sadly, it has become a mess.  Not only are we attacked from the
> > outside but
> > > the kernel devs now.  If this all unfolds as it is starting to, linux
> > will
> > > be locked in to strictly be a server OS and that is where the money is
> > > anyway so I'm not sure the paid kernel devs really care since that is
> > what
> > > is driving linux on a larger scale.
> >
> > On a larger scale for now.
> >
> > > Even consultation with a lawyer doesn't prevent legal actions from
> > being
> > > started and then you must defend yourself.
> >
> > I think they would probably issue a cease and desist first.
> >
> > > Just look at the whole IBM/SCO fiasco.
> >
> > SCO are a joke.
> >
> > > The negatives now outweigh the positives.  Those of you that reside
> > outside
> > > the US and Canada are pretty much immune to all of this but for those
> > of us
> > > that live here, the threat is a real possibility.
> >
> > What weight do US software patent laws hold in Canada? I will be
> > seeking expatriation myself, somewhere where this idiocy does not
> > prevail. So all the loser goth kids who went to high school with me --
> > and software patent holders -- can both munch on a bowl of my ...
> > while I drink lassi and shoot the shiznit on IRC.
> >
> > > I predict that if SCO is
> > > even minutely successful against IBM, there will be a whole slew of
> > new
> > > lawsuits coming and look how long the IBM/SCO lawsuit has been going
> > on.
> >
> > They've consistently lost up to this point, and made complete asses
> > out of themselves.
> >
> > --
> > Remember that time Thotsakan punched Neil Bush in the dick?
> >
> > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,
> > security?
> > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job
> > easier
> > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache
> > Geronimo
> > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] New VL Repository

[Sriram D. <sri...@gm...>]

hi all,
how to effectively collect dependency info ? does checkinstall etc already
do [part of ] that?
cheers
ram


On 7/27/06, Jason Woodward <woo...@ja...> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> > I'm going to add to my previous reply so that I (and hopefully the
> > rest of us on the list) understand what a changelog for packages will
> > entail.
> >
> > xap/seamonkey-1.0.3-i486-1.tgz: Upgraded to seamonkey-1.0.3.
> >        This upgrade fixes several possible security bugs.
> >        For more information, see:
> >
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html#seamonkey
> >        (* Security fix *)
> > Please either confirm that my understanding is correct or show me
> > where I am not understanding something. :)
>
> Looks great.  slapt/gslapt can parse that.
>
>
> rock on!
> jason
>
> --
> Jason Woodward
> woo...@ja...
>
>
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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] GPL'd Software Source Code

[John B <joh...@gm...>]

Yeah, it is. Unfortunately, as long as the bulk of the software we
distribute is GPL'd, then we have a major albatross around our necks.

FWIW,
John

On 8/2/06, Jose J. Rodriguez <jo...@gm...> wrote:
> On 8/2/06, nig...@ju... <nig...@ju...> wrote:
> > Found this about Mepis:
> > http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS9113053102.html
> > http://www.mepis.org/node/10730
> >
>
> Nice catch, nightflier. Obviously the "meat" of the matter is here:
> http://www.mepis.org/node/10725 which is linked to from both your
> URLs. What I never thought was that a user giving away a distro CD
> also needs to comply with the GPL. Sounds pretty extreme...
>
> Regards,
> Joe1962
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Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] GPL'd Software Source Code

[Jose J. R. <jo...@gm...>]

On 8/2/06, nig...@ju... <nig...@ju...> wrote:
> Found this about Mepis:
> http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS9113053102.html
> http://www.mepis.org/node/10730
>

Nice catch, nightflier. Obviously the "meat" of the matter is here:
http://www.mepis.org/node/10725 which is linked to from both your
URLs. What I never thought was that a user giving away a distro CD
also needs to comply with the GPL. Sounds pretty extreme...

Regards,
Joe1962