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From: Newtor <gen...@gm...> - 2009-08-06 04:56:57
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Hello, I'm trying to recreate the scenario for setting root's password during installation to see if I can log any further information. So far all I've been able to determine is that a 'segmentation fault' is occurring when trying to set root's password; I'll make the assumption that the same is true when setting user account passwords as well. If I manually chroot to the target and issue 'passwdx root root' I receive: spawn passwd root Segmentation fault The installer looks to be passing a valid and correct command to the shell. The 'passwdx' script looks to be correct in regards to code. 'expect' is installed and seems to be functioning correctly. 'autopasswd' also ends in a segmentation fault. Is it possible that the 1.21 ISO was simply compiled with some kind of a corruption that causes this issue (either in the ISO itself or the expect interpreter)? I have not had a problem with user account creation; simply password setting. I assume that the user account creation step involves the same password setting syntax (and interpreter; expect), which would lead me to believe the problem lies somewhere in there. By chance, did 'expect' change from 1.17 to 1.21? The md5 of expect installed on my system from 1.21 is: e4a981a3b18bc7f53b817ce1d1639b61 /usr/bin/expect It would be interesting to see if the same is true for M0E since he does not seem to be experiencing this same issue. On the bright side, 'chpasswd' works fine :D Cheers, newt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 10:11:32 PM, you wrote: ML> Ok guys, I will check the /etc/shadow thing. But im still curious why ML> I dont get this problem. ML> @ uelsk8s ML> Can you check my shell code to make sure the procedure for creating ML> the new account is correct? The code is here ML> http://vlcore.vectorlinux.com/trac/vinstall/browser/branches/speedy/MdlMain.module#L668 ML> Will do some more debugging tomorrow |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-08-06 04:11:46
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Ok guys, I will check the /etc/shadow thing. But im still curious why I dont get this problem. @ uelsk8s Can you check my shell code to make sure the procedure for creating the new account is correct? The code is here http://vlcore.vectorlinux.com/trac/vinstall/browser/branches/speedy/MdlMain.module#L668 Will do some more debugging tomorrow |
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From: Newtor <gen...@gm...> - 2009-08-05 21:56:03
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Hello Robert and M0E, Just to confirm: I checked /etc/shadow and the new user account show up there with plain text passwords rather than '*'. root contains an empty space for the password (i.e. nothing there at all), which coincides with the fact that root does not require a password to login. Hope this helps. Cheers, newt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 3:39:08 PM, you wrote: RL> Newtor and M0E.......... RL> Check the /etc/shadow file on your new install see if the users you created RL> show up there. I checked mine as I am having a similar problem as you. The new RL> account is there but the password is in plain text and not encrypted as it RL> should be. There is no password for root however in that same RL> file.........hope this helps debugging this some.......:) RL> Cheers, RL> Robert RL> Robert Lange RL> vec...@ya... RL> http://www.vectorlinux.com RL> --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Newtor <gen...@gm...> wrote: >> From: Newtor <gen...@gm...> >> Subject: Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] VL6.0-SOHO-A1.9.21 >> To: "Vector Linux developer's list" <vec...@li...> >> Received: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 1:38 PM >> Hello, >> >> First: >> I've come across a strange issue I mentioned a while back >> but was unable to >> reproduce. The issue is duplicity of partitions when >> choosing where to install VL. >> I've been able to reproduce this issue with installer >> version 700, here's how: >> >> -Created three new partitions (/, >> /home, swap) with ext3 filesystem. >> -Get to 'Select which partitions >> to use for installation' >> -Click back, back (to the finding >> installation CD step) >> -Click 'Search Again' >> -Get back to 'Select which >> partitions to use for installation' >> -Should show duplicates at this >> point. For me, it shows a set of my non-swap >> partitions for each time I clicked >> 'Search Again'. For example, if I went back and >> clicked 'Search Again' 5 times I will >> see 11 partitions (/ and /home duplicated 5 >> times each, and then my swap. >> >> I'm guessing that it may just be related to an array key or >> variable not being >> cleared properly. Basically it acts as though each time I >> 'Search Again' it adds >> another set of available partitions to an array(?), rather >> than simply reassigning >> the existing keys with the new information. Something like >> that, maybe. >> >> >> Next: >> User accounts are not created successfully during >> installation. I went with ext3 >> filesystems this time; 3 partitions (/, /home, swap). You >> can check the gui logs ( >> I removed package installation text to save message size). >> I did notice the >> password creation error again that I mentioned a while >> back: >> >> ------ ERROR >> SAVING ROOT PASSWORD (Error details below) ------- >> spawn passwd root >> >> ------- END OF ROOT >> PASSWORD ERROR ------- >> >> Couple items I see when creating passwords and users: >> spawn passwd root >> spawn passwd kparty >> spawn passwd kparty2 >> >> Also: >> Even though it was not logged (not sure why) I remember >> always seeing a >> messages to the effect of "group __username__ does not >> exist" after adding each >> new user. I've always thought it odd that the procedure >> tries to do _something_ >> with a group using the username as the group name; perhaps >> this is normal, but I >> thought I'd mention it. >> >> >> Last, just a couple notes regarding the first boot after >> installation: >> -Services that fail: vmware, >> wifi-radar; route/network on same line (is normal?) >> -Akonadi control/server fail to start >> in KDE, first boot. >> >> >> Cheers, newt >> >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> >> Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 8:12:00 AM, you wrote: >> >> ML> I need something better than that though. >> ML> see if you can catch the error. >> ML> Watch the terminal output when running trhough the >> password steps. >> >> ML> I can't reproduce this. I want to see what your >> terminals say >> >> ML> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> ML> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free >> Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day >> ML> trial. 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From: Robert L. <vec...@ya...> - 2009-08-05 21:39:20
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Newtor and M0E.......... Check the /etc/shadow file on your new install see if the users you created show up there. I checked mine as I am having a similar problem as you. The new account is there but the password is in plain text and not encrypted as it should be. There is no password for root however in that same file.........hope this helps debugging this some.......:) Cheers, Robert Robert Lange vec...@ya... http://www.vectorlinux.com --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Newtor <gen...@gm...> wrote: > From: Newtor <gen...@gm...> > Subject: Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] VL6.0-SOHO-A1.9.21 > To: "Vector Linux developer's list" <vec...@li...> > Received: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 1:38 PM > Hello, > > First: > I've come across a strange issue I mentioned a while back > but was unable to > reproduce. The issue is duplicity of partitions when > choosing where to install VL. > I've been able to reproduce this issue with installer > version 700, here's how: > > -Created three new partitions (/, > /home, swap) with ext3 filesystem. > -Get to 'Select which partitions > to use for installation' > -Click back, back (to the finding > installation CD step) > -Click 'Search Again' > -Get back to 'Select which > partitions to use for installation' > -Should show duplicates at this > point. For me, it shows a set of my non-swap > partitions for each time I clicked > 'Search Again'. For example, if I went back and > clicked 'Search Again' 5 times I will > see 11 partitions (/ and /home duplicated 5 > times each, and then my swap. > > I'm guessing that it may just be related to an array key or > variable not being > cleared properly. Basically it acts as though each time I > 'Search Again' it adds > another set of available partitions to an array(?), rather > than simply reassigning > the existing keys with the new information. Something like > that, maybe. > > > Next: > User accounts are not created successfully during > installation. I went with ext3 > filesystems this time; 3 partitions (/, /home, swap). You > can check the gui logs ( > I removed package installation text to save message size). > I did notice the > password creation error again that I mentioned a while > back: > > ------ ERROR > SAVING ROOT PASSWORD (Error details below) ------- > spawn passwd root > > ------- END OF ROOT > PASSWORD ERROR ------- > > Couple items I see when creating passwords and users: > spawn passwd root > spawn passwd kparty > spawn passwd kparty2 > > Also: > Even though it was not logged (not sure why) I remember > always seeing a > messages to the effect of "group __username__ does not > exist" after adding each > new user. I've always thought it odd that the procedure > tries to do _something_ > with a group using the username as the group name; perhaps > this is normal, but I > thought I'd mention it. > > > Last, just a couple notes regarding the first boot after > installation: > -Services that fail: vmware, > wifi-radar; route/network on same line (is normal?) > -Akonadi control/server fail to start > in KDE, first boot. > > > Cheers, newt > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 8:12:00 AM, you wrote: > > ML> I need something better than that though. > ML> see if you can catch the error. > ML> Watch the terminal output when running trhough the > password steps. > > ML> I can't reproduce this. I want to see what your > terminals say > > ML> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ML> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free > Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > ML> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and > deployment - and focus on > ML> what you do best, core application coding. Discover > what's new with > ML> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ML> _______________________________________________ > ML> Vectorlinux-devel mailing list > ML> Vec...@li... > ML> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vectorlinux-devel > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal > Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and > deployment - and focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's > new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Vectorlinux-devel mailing list > Vec...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vectorlinux-devel > __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ |
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From: Newtor <gen...@gm...> - 2009-08-05 17:38:29
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Hello,
First:
I've come across a strange issue I mentioned a while back but was unable to
reproduce. The issue is duplicity of partitions when choosing where to install VL.
I've been able to reproduce this issue with installer version 700, here's how:
-Created three new partitions (/, /home, swap) with ext3 filesystem.
-Get to 'Select which partitions to use for installation'
-Click back, back (to the finding installation CD step)
-Click 'Search Again'
-Get back to 'Select which partitions to use for installation'
-Should show duplicates at this point. For me, it shows a set of my non-swap
partitions for each time I clicked 'Search Again'. For example, if I went back and
clicked 'Search Again' 5 times I will see 11 partitions (/ and /home duplicated 5
times each, and then my swap.
I'm guessing that it may just be related to an array key or variable not being
cleared properly. Basically it acts as though each time I 'Search Again' it adds
another set of available partitions to an array(?), rather than simply reassigning
the existing keys with the new information. Something like that, maybe.
Next:
User accounts are not created successfully during installation. I went with ext3
filesystems this time; 3 partitions (/, /home, swap). You can check the gui logs (
I removed package installation text to save message size). I did notice the
password creation error again that I mentioned a while back:
------ ERROR SAVING ROOT PASSWORD (Error details below) -------
spawn passwd root
------- END OF ROOT PASSWORD ERROR -------
Couple items I see when creating passwords and users:
spawn passwd root
spawn passwd kparty
spawn passwd kparty2
Also:
Even though it was not logged (not sure why) I remember always seeing a
messages to the effect of "group __username__ does not exist" after adding each
new user. I've always thought it odd that the procedure tries to do _something_
with a group using the username as the group name; perhaps this is normal, but I
thought I'd mention it.
Last, just a couple notes regarding the first boot after installation:
-Services that fail: vmware, wifi-radar; route/network on same line (is normal?)
-Akonadi control/server fail to start in KDE, first boot.
Cheers, newt
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 8:12:00 AM, you wrote:
ML> I need something better than that though.
ML> see if you can catch the error.
ML> Watch the terminal output when running trhough the password steps.
ML> I can't reproduce this. I want to see what your terminals say
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-08-04 17:18:42
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I just ran yet another test, and I dont get this error here is my setup PARTITIONS: / and /home are 2 different partitions, both formatted as ext3 Install Type: Custom Added 3 user accounts All 3 + root can log in with their correct passwords. The only glitch I have here is KDE not starting up unless i install vbox additions, other than that, installation is as smooth as can be. |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-08-04 14:12:12
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I need something better than that though. see if you can catch the error. Watch the terminal output when running trhough the password steps. I can't reproduce this. I want to see what your terminals say |
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From: Robert L. <vec...@ya...> - 2009-08-04 07:56:26
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M0E Newt.......... I just tried a new install and although this problem went away for awhile it seems to be back. There is no root passwaord and the password for new user seems invalid. This is with latest installer ...............theres a bug somewhere.........:( Cheers, R Robert Lange vec...@ya... http://www.vectorlinux.com --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Newtor <gen...@gm...> wrote: > From: Newtor <gen...@gm...> > Subject: Re: [Vectorlinux-devel] VL6.0-SOHO-A1.9.21 > To: "M0E Lnx" <m0...@gm...> > Cc: "Vector Linux developer's list" <vec...@li...> > Received: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 10:36 PM > M0E, > > I tried the install again with fresh, new partitions. The > user accounts still have > the same password issues: user account 'kparty' cannot > login using password or no > password, root can login with no password. Below are the > username/password > combinations I've played with: > > root:root > kparty:kparty > > Attached is the new gui.log, however it seems about as > useless as the previous > one. Do you know if anyone else experienced the same > account password issues I > have? > > Aside from this issue, the installer seems to be working > the best so far! At least > I'm able to login to root and set user account passwords > that way. I guess my next > test should be to reinstall using better passwords. I'm > also going to see if the > partition formatting issue re-occurs. > > Cheers, newt > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Thursday, July 30, 2009, 3:16:49 PM, you wrote: > > ML> Ok... > ML> This is weird. It has been working 100% for me for a > long time on > ML> both, root and user passwords. > > ML> Can you do another run and this time, execute the > installer, and > ML> redirect the output to a log file and paste the log > so I can see what > ML> its doing? > > ML> I think it throws it to /root/gui.log by default > ML> if you must update the binary, you can run it again > like this > ML> from the /root directory > ML> ./speedy/vinstall-ng.gambas > gui.log > > ML> When you're done, save that file to another > partition (maybe the > ML> target partition is a good option) > ML> Boot the newly isntalled VL and post the log (or a > link to a pastie > ML> containing the log) > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal > Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and > deployment - and focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's > new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Vectorlinux-devel mailing list > Vec...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vectorlinux-devel > __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. |
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From: Newtor <gen...@gm...> - 2009-07-31 02:32:35
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M0E, I tried the install again with fresh, new partitions. The user accounts still have the same password issues: user account 'kparty' cannot login using password or no password, root can login with no password. Below are the username/password combinations I've played with: root:root kparty:kparty Attached is the new gui.log, however it seems about as useless as the previous one. Do you know if anyone else experienced the same account password issues I have? Aside from this issue, the installer seems to be working the best so far! At least I'm able to login to root and set user account passwords that way. I guess my next test should be to reinstall using better passwords. I'm also going to see if the partition formatting issue re-occurs. Cheers, newt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thursday, July 30, 2009, 3:16:49 PM, you wrote: ML> Ok... ML> This is weird. It has been working 100% for me for a long time on ML> both, root and user passwords. ML> Can you do another run and this time, execute the installer, and ML> redirect the output to a log file and paste the log so I can see what ML> its doing? ML> I think it throws it to /root/gui.log by default ML> if you must update the binary, you can run it again like this ML> from the /root directory ML> ./speedy/vinstall-ng.gambas > gui.log ML> When you're done, save that file to another partition (maybe the ML> target partition is a good option) ML> Boot the newly isntalled VL and post the log (or a link to a pastie ML> containing the log) |
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From: Newtor <gen...@gm...> - 2009-07-30 23:12:00
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Hello, I'm not overly familiar with the proper procedure for installing newer kernels and modules, so perhaps this issue is simply user error. My method was to install VL6Soho 1.21 complete. Login into recovery mode via grub. Using 'wget' I downloaded both packages. Using 'installpkg' I installed both packages. Kernel installed without any abnormal message, however modules gave this message: mv: cannot stat 'etc/rc.d/rc.modules-2.6.30.3.new': No such file or directory At this I'm at a stand still trying to figure out how to manipulate the grub2 bootloader to boot the newer kernel and yet still provide me an option for the older kernel. I noticed that the symlinks were updated to the newer kernel, however the actual grub menu still boots the older kernel. It seems grub2 has done away with menu.lst so I'm searching to discover the new method of adding additional boot options. If I can determine the proper method and successfully boot the newer kernel I'll report back on my virtual testing. Cheers, newt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thursday, July 30, 2009, 1:51:04 AM, you wrote: RL> There was a request for this kernel with ext4 support. I have made packages RL> both kernel and modules. The kernel package has the necessary .config in /boot RL> if you need to do any modifications. So far has run well for me and the RL> proprietary nvidia driver compiles against it. Give it a go the latest from Linus and his crew. RL> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/Uelsk8s/test/kernel/ RL> cheers, RL> vec RL> Robert Lange RL> vec...@ya... RL> http://www.vectorlinux.com RL> __________________________________________________________________ RL> Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now RL> http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. RL> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RL> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day RL> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on RL> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with RL> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july RL> _______________________________________________ RL> Vectorlinux-devel mailing list RL> Vec...@li... RL> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vectorlinux-devel |
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From: Newtor <gen...@gm...> - 2009-07-30 21:09:51
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Hello, Quick update: It seems that the root and user password setting phase of the graphical installer is not working 100%. For my root password I simply used 'root' and the installer indicated success - though I did note a console message indicating the contrary. When creating the user account I simply used the username as the password (kparty) and the account is inaccessible via kdm - i.e. it does not accept the password I set. Granted, these are not robust passwords by any means however I would have expected a message to this affect, or a denial of acceptance of passwords. I had noted the user account creation problem a couple days ago in my testing notes, but I just realized the root pass was never set correctly. I discovered this when using the 'Recovery Mode' option via grub, and then logging in as username 'root' - it logged straight in without prompting for a password. Cheers, newt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:04:17 PM, you wrote: ML> Ok... I think I've fixed the visual problem with the booloader setup. ML> Test it out and let me know. ML> @vector ML> I think we are ready for testing on the mult-cd install. ML> The VL6.0-SOHO-A1.9.21 ISO's have the new updated vinstall.conf needed ML> for a multiple media install. |
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From: uel a. <ue...@gm...> - 2009-07-30 13:54:59
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what patches are done on this kernel? On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Robert Lange <vec...@ya...> wrote: > > There was a request for this kernel with ext4 support. I have made packages > both kernel and modules. The kernel package has the necessary .config in > /boot if you need to do any modifications. So far has run well for me and > the proprietary nvidia driver compiles against it. Give it a go the latest > from Linus and his crew. > http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/Uelsk8s/test/kernel/ > > cheers, > vec > > Robert Lange > vec...@ya... > http://www.vectorlinux.com > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your > favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Vectorlinux-devel mailing list > Vec...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vectorlinux-devel > |
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From: Robert L. <vec...@ya...> - 2009-07-30 07:51:20
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There was a request for this kernel with ext4 support. I have made packages both kernel and modules. The kernel package has the necessary .config in /boot if you need to do any modifications. So far has run well for me and the proprietary nvidia driver compiles against it. Give it a go the latest from Linus and his crew. http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/vectorlinux/Uelsk8s/test/kernel/ cheers, vec Robert Lange vec...@ya... http://www.vectorlinux.com __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. |
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From: Newtor <gen...@gm...> - 2009-07-29 02:54:01
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Hello, Just did another custom (full) install test and below are my notes: >>> updated to revision 697 >>> custom install with all packages >>> >>> System Bootloader Configuration: doesn't use the 'vector linux' labels like >>> the Light Installation does. The custom uses the 'Slackware Linux' labels for lilo and grub. Strange I think. >>> >>> ERROR SAVING ROOT PASSWORD >>> spawn passwd password >>> END OF ROOT PASSWORD ERROR >>> (but root password is saved correctly) >>> >>> Confirmation that user account was created successfully >>> group user does not exist >>> spawn passwd password >>> cp: cannot stat '/etc/skel/*': No such file or directory >>> chown: cannot access '/home/user/*': No such file or directory >>> chroot: cannot run command 'cd': No such file or directory >>> (but looks like default user account /home/user was created successfully) >>> >>> services failed: avahi, vmware, wifi-radar, route/network on same line again (strange) >>> >>> KDM: user account password not set correctly (2nd time this happens; typed >>> very slowly this time). root account works fine. >>> >>> KDE first boot: I meant to comment that 1.21 KDE is MUCH faster than 1.17 at loading; akonadi server/control fail >>> >>> KDM/KDE second boot: did not see any route/network on same line, wifi-radar >>> still fails, vmware still fails; akonadi still fails server/control >>> >>> KDE: shutdown/logout screen - icon overlaps words (cosmetic) Hope this helps. Cheers, newt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:04:17 PM, you wrote: ML> Ok... I think I've fixed the visual problem with the booloader setup. ML> Test it out and let me know. ML> @vector ML> I think we are ready for testing on the mult-cd install. ML> The VL6.0-SOHO-A1.9.21 ISO's have the new updated vinstall.conf needed ML> for a multiple media install. |
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From: Newtor <gen...@gm...> - 2009-07-28 22:18:49
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Hello, Preamble: updated to revision 697; minimal install with light-desktop option That's great news about the back/next errors I was receiving. I just tested it and cannot reproduce them. Great job!! I also checked the bootloader setup page on a smaller resolution than your and it also looks to be fixed. I resized the window and the drop-downs scaled accordingly as well. Fantastic! Good to know about the grub issue. I wonder if you could simply deactivate/disable the label field (i.e. gray it out). Kind of an 'out of sight out of mind thing'. Not a big deal at all, just a thought. I DO like how the label indicates vector now, and the 'Saving configuration' blue bar looks good too! 2 minor things: When I first reached the manual partition selection screen (reusing existing partitions) there were 9 partitions listed, but I only have 3 created. The 3 were duplicated 3 times = 9 partitions. I clicked back and next, everything showed correctly this time. I'll try to reproduce this to see if 1) I can, and 2) I can capture what's in the terminal log when this happens. Spelling: When clicking the checkmark next to 'X11' the warning message has 'conponent' misspelled. The warning message when clicking the 'Un-Select All' button is different and spelled correctly. Services failed: avahi (2), vmware, wifi-radar Could not start light-desktop gui. X failed to start properly. Could be a vmware issue though because I see "(WW) VMWARE(0): Failed to set up write-combining range" I'll try this install again later with full KDE installation to check the user account situation and X, but I suspect X will work fine with full install. Cheers, newt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:04:17 PM, you wrote: ML> Ok... I think I've fixed the visual problem with the booloader setup. ML> Test it out and let me know. ML> @vector ML> I think we are ready for testing on the mult-cd install. ML> The VL6.0-SOHO-A1.9.21 ISO's have the new updated vinstall.conf needed ML> for a multiple media install. |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-07-28 21:04:29
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Ok... I think I've fixed the visual problem with the booloader setup. Test it out and let me know. @vector I think we are ready for testing on the mult-cd install. The VL6.0-SOHO-A1.9.21 ISO's have the new updated vinstall.conf needed for a multiple media install. |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-07-28 20:06:06
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WoW... cool I have not even had a chance to test this extensively... but I'm impressed! Thanks for the reports.. I have fixed the [-1] erros you are getting when clicking back/next/back/next. This was due to my bad habit of not clearing up arrays and stuff... but it's fixed. I still have to try to fix the lilo step on a smaller resolution. (I normally develop this thing @ 1440x900, so I got no visual problems ever ) The keyboard problem when you click on the grub booloader is actually intentional. I know this seems ackward, but grub2 does not really offer a whole lot of flexibility.. It depends completely on what the system tells it to do. Sort of a self-contained thing. The OS labels are merely for visual purposes when you choose GRUB. Nothing I can do there. Even if I were to go against the devs and manually override the labels, it would change back to default in no time when you run grub. Thanks for testing. Keep them coming. |
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From: Newtor <gen...@gm...> - 2009-07-28 19:15:28
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Hello, Been out of town for a couple weeks, but am back now. Here's my latest run with 1.9.21. It's looking very nice as usual. The installer is coming along very nicely - keep up the good work M0E. The kde theme looks very nice as well - better than the default kde4 look. I'm still able to reproduce the fatal errors during package selection, and there were a few other (mostly) minor issues. The summary is below: >>> Preamble: vmware virtual install; reused virtual machine; new partitions; >>> custom/manual package selection but defaulted to full install; all services >>> selected: updated installer before beginning using following steps (for static network): >>> kill 3864 (dhcpcd pid) >>> ifconfig eth0 down >>> create /etc/resolv.conf >>> add 'nameserver 192.168.100.1' and save >>> ifconfig eth0 192.168.100.252 netmask 255.255.255.0 up >>> route add default gw 192.168.100.1 >>> cd speedy >>> svn up >>> received 'updated to revision 691' >>> gbr2 /root/speedy/vinstall-ng.gambas >>> >>> Initial installer lag time was significantly reduced in my virtual >>> environment. Previously (1.17 and before) it was somewhere around 60-70 >>> seconds. It was only about 20 seconds this time. I'm sure on real hardware it would be a bit quicker still. >>> >>> Fatal Error: I can still receive fatal errors by clicking 'next'/'back' and >>> selectall/unselectall a few times through the package selection screens and >>> when finally getting to the Installation Summary the fatal error happens. The >>> fatal error is: [-1] Key already used: 'X11'. Step8.?.0 >>> >>> More fatal errors below. Starting from first package selection screen, this is the sequence: >>> next, next, next - works fine >>> next, next, next, back, back, back, next, next, next - fatal error ([-1] Key already used: 'X11'. Step8.?.0) >>> next, next, next, back, next - fatal error ([-1] Key already used: 'FUN'. Step8.?.0) >>> >>> Seems like a variable/key is set during the first pass through and then when >>> the user backs up and moves forward the variable/key attempts to be added >>> again causing a conflict (duplicity). Something like that. >>> >>> I moved ahead with the 'Full Installation' at this point. >>> >>> I gotta ask, does the scrolling developer marquee slow down the installation >>> process at all? If it does then perhaps a static text box would be better to >>> decrease installation time, but if not then the scrolling would be preferred. >>> >>> Also, I'm flattered by the addition of my name to the scrolling marquee but >>> don't feel like I'm any kind of a developer. Stretchedthin on the other hand >>> has done a tremendous service with his/her video tutorials amonst other things >>> - an amazing job and (I bet) quite time consuming. >>> >>> I was asked twice to insert my 2nd cd. The second time it worked - perhaps >>> just an artifact of the virtual environment or I clicked 'Okay' too quick. >>> >>> System Bootloader Config: The video resolution dropdown is cut off about half way. >>> The target dropdown is slightly cut off at the end. >>> The default name is 'slackware'. >>> >>> After clicking on 'Grub' bootloader, I lose the ability to use my keyboard to >>> type a new label. I think it's related to a maximum characters in the 'Label' field being exceeded. >>> >>> Ifplugd still has 'vmware modules' as it's description. >>> >>> First boot: >>> even though the grub boot loader has a very long label starting with >>> 'slackware.....' the labels that actually showed up were 'vector linuc ()' and >>> 'vector linux (fail safe)' (the labels may not be exact) >>> >>> During post-installation configuration it ask about my keyboard settings, and >>> they are different than what I selected during the gui installer. Is there a >>> way to carry over the setting from the gui installer? >>> >>> Services failed during boot: >>> vmware, wicd or wifi-radar >>> >>> KDM: my user login failed. The user was shown as an option but my password >>> was not accepted - did I mistype it? Root account did work, on the other hand. >>> >>> akondadi control and server processes fail on first boot. >>> >>> After resetting my user account password I was able to login. I guess I'll >>> have to try another install and see if I just mistyped my password. >>> >>> The theme look much nicer than the default KDE4 theme. Cheers, newt |
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From: Paul M. <pa...@wa...> - 2009-07-27 19:56:32
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M0E Lnx wrote: > That error sounds like a bug in the code. I will try to reproduce that in a bit. > Text install will fail for a while... the text installer needs to be > re-writen to accomodate new ISO format Just retried the install. This time, I did a selective install and left everything selected. Went through without problems, so it looks as though the error is being pulled up by the complete install. Info boxes towards the end of the install are very slow to populate. In a couple of instances, I got a box, but no text. Takes 10 - 20 seconds before the text appears. That really needs fixing... I'll be interested to see how fast those are on the test box, which is a good deal less snappy than this machine. Paul. |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-07-27 18:42:27
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That error sounds like a bug in the code. I will try to reproduce that in a bit. Text install will fail for a while... the text installer needs to be re-writen to accomodate new ISO format |
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From: Paul M. <pa...@wa...> - 2009-07-27 18:29:21
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M0E Lnx wrote: > I do most of the development in a virtual environment using a VM with > 512mb of RAM > Emulating a single core CPU @ 2ghz and the installer is really not > bad... Unless others who have tested it find it differently. Just tried the svn version. Behaviour is pretty much the same. Part of it is not lag, more strange screen refresh, at least in the partition selection area. The cursor moves very slowly when attempting to select a mount point, and the boxes don't update until the mouse cursor is moved again after making the selection. Can't comment on the later problems. This time, the selected / partition was formatted (xfs is my normal preference), and the install fails before it reaches the end. Error is as below: [45] File or Directory does not exist MdlMain.?.0 Attempting to use the text install also fails - it can't find the cd media and fails at that point. I'm going to try the same CD on my old test machine - PIII 1.2 with 512 MB of RAM and an Elsa Synergy AGP card. Be interesting to see what its like in that environment. Paul. |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-07-27 16:04:32
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No doubt, The credits list could use an update. And what happens is the ISO gets created, but the installer bytecode does not always get updated. I do most of the development in a virtual environment using a VM with 512mb of RAM Emulating a single core CPU @ 2ghz and the installer is really not bad... Unless others who have tested it find it differently. |
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From: paul m. <pa...@wa...> - 2009-07-27 15:55:28
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M0E Lnx wrote: > Paul, > Are you running this on real hardware or in a virtual environment? > I'm curious because I've ran it in both and dont have the lag problem > you report. Real (and usually more than adequately fast hardware...). I had the same lag problems with the installer in .18 as well. > I do get a minor lag between the time X loads and the time the > installer launches, but I can live with that... it's not too bad. Well, the lag on start is confusing, but liveable. I'm much more concerned with the lag during the install. I couldn't live with that, and if its as bad as I'm seeing on a fast machine, I dread to imagine what it would be like on a slow machine or in a VM environment. > It is very possible that you are running old installer code too. If > network is not working when X loads, you are using old installer code, > so if you dont have a working wired connection that is supported when > X loads, I suggest the following procedure to make sure you get the > latest installer code before you run your test. > > 1) Boot a working OS > 2) check out a fresh copy of the installer svn branch (svn co > http://vlcore.vectorlinux.com/svn/vinstall/branches/speedy) > 3) Boot your new VL ISO > 4) Close the installer when it comes up > 5) Delete the "speedy" directory from /root > 6) Mount the partition containing the new installer code and copy the > "speedy" dir to the /root/ directory on the running system. > > You can execute the installer again by running " > ./speedy/vinstall-ng.gambas > gui.log " from the /root/ directory > For best results, run the gambas IDE (Command: "gambas2"), Click on > "Open project" -> select the speedy directory -> OK > Once it loads, click the play button on the toolbar. > > Hope this helps :) I'm running whatever comes with the .19 iso. I'm going to reburn the iso, just in case and then I'll try your suggestions.. Thanks. Oh, while I think of it, the developer crew stuff is badly out of date as well. Could do with some updating. Paul. |
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From: M0E L. <m0...@gm...> - 2009-07-27 15:21:16
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Paul, Are you running this on real hardware or in a virtual environment? I'm curious because I've ran it in both and dont have the lag problem you report. I do get a minor lag between the time X loads and the time the installer launches, but I can live with that... it's not too bad. It is very possible that you are running old installer code too. If network is not working when X loads, you are using old installer code, so if you dont have a working wired connection that is supported when X loads, I suggest the following procedure to make sure you get the latest installer code before you run your test. 1) Boot a working OS 2) check out a fresh copy of the installer svn branch (svn co http://vlcore.vectorlinux.com/svn/vinstall/branches/speedy) 3) Boot your new VL ISO 4) Close the installer when it comes up 5) Delete the "speedy" directory from /root 6) Mount the partition containing the new installer code and copy the "speedy" dir to the /root/ directory on the running system. You can execute the installer again by running " ./speedy/vinstall-ng.gambas > gui.log " from the /root/ directory For best results, run the gambas IDE (Command: "gambas2"), Click on "Open project" -> select the speedy directory -> OK Once it loads, click the play button on the toolbar. Hope this helps |
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From: paul m. <pa...@wa...> - 2009-07-27 15:04:17
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Finally got a bit of time to try this. Quite a few items.... Installer. This time round, selecting 1280x800 works reasonably well. There are a few places where the screen fails to scale properly - the install review screen goes off to the right, and the System Administrator Account information drops off the bottom of the box. Lag. I would have to say that it is completely unacceptable. Installing to a 2GHz Core2Duo laptop with 1.5 GB of RAM, the lag is dreadful. It takes almost 15 seconds for the installer to come up after the install desktop is started. Lag during some phases of the install is even worse. Especially when selecting partitions for the install, it is all too easy to make false selections because the screen lags so far behind mouse or keyboard input. The same applies to some of the information box updates - especially noticeable on errors during user creation. I hope this is temporary, because I would never use it in its current form. Other problems. I selected to format my newly selected / partition. However, at the end of the install, the original contents (Zenwalk 6.2 alpha) was still there - I found both the Vector kernel and the Zenwalk kernel, plus lots of other signs of the original contents. Obviously, the install failed to format the partition as instructed. User creation. This may have been my problem initially. I got distracted at the critical moment and clicked next instead of 'create user'. When the error box came up, I clicked 'back' and re-entered the user details. When I clicked on 'create user', it still came up with an error - unable to create user. :) I guess I'll go back and try again, though this time I'm going to blank the / partition before I start the install..... paul. |
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