Thread: [Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus"
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From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2008-12-14 02:15:10
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I discovered something called "Tux Paint Plus" today. I ran anti-virus scanning software (clamav's "clamscan" tool) against it, and it didn't find anything, so I launched the program. (I used "Wine" under Linux.) It appears that this software installs not just Tux Paint (it's very likely that it's just regular Tux Paint, and nothing special -- I haven't tried yet, though), but also some kind of 'search toolbar' in ones web browser. Doing a quick search on Google for "open source plus toolbar," I came across an EULA (end user license agreement) for something called "InfraRecorder Plus" that has the same wording as the one I saw in "Tux Paint Plus." InfraRecorder is a CD/DVD writing tool for Windows that, like Tux Paint, is released under the GNU GPL. So it looks like someone (whomever is responsible for this toolbar) is grabbing open source software, wrapping this 'toolbar' software around it, and re-releasing it. Does anyone out here have any additional comments or info about this? It's not clear whether they are breaking the rules of the GPL (it seems unlikely, as the EULA I read states: "These TOOLBAR TERMS OF USE govern your use of the Toolbar only. Other terms of use govern any other software that you may choose to install on your computer.") However, I'm worried about people becoming confused about "Tux Paint" versus "Tux Paint Plus." It want it to be clear that the 'official' versions of Tux Paint are the ones released by us, the current set of developer volunteers, and that we cannot be held responsible for any problems that come up by using this "plus" version. (During the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October, it was recommended that we trademark the name "Tux Paint" to help avoid these kinds of issues. How do people feel about that?) Thanks in advance, -- -bill! "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux! Download it today! http://www.tuxpaint.org/ |
From: Schrijvers L. <Be...@sk...> - 2008-12-14 08:02:19
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On za, 2008-12-13 at 18:15 -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote: <snip> > So it looks like someone (whomever is responsible for this toolbar) is > grabbing open source software, wrapping this 'toolbar' software around it, > and re-releasing it. > I've seen it with quit a lot of the ports I made and released on BeBits (I've informed the developers of the port where possible and some are even hosted on their site). Even when contacting the guy who did it he said I hadn't anything to say about it as all the stuff is released as GPL. Although he has a point I found it te be bad manners to not inform before you do things like that. So for what it's worth ... I'm all against it. ;) > However, I'm worried about people becoming confused about "Tux Paint" > versus "Tux Paint Plus." It want it to be clear that the 'official' > versions of Tux Paint are the ones released by us, the current set of > developer volunteers, and that we cannot be held responsible for any > problems that come up by using this "plus" version. > > (During the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October, it was > recommended that we trademark the name "Tux Paint" to help avoid these kinds > of issues. How do people feel about that?) > +1 Luc aka Begasus http://www.zeta-games.com http://begasus.blogspot.com |
From: <mal...@po...> - 2008-12-14 14:13:19
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Agree with you on this Bill - it could be a a wise step to trademark asap. Regards Maldwyn Maldwyn E Pryse Swyddog Gwella Ysgolion / School Improvement Officer Tel: 01597 826194 Mobile: 07887 633024 http://itteam.powys.gov.uk Fax: 01597 826263 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008 2:16 Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus" To: Tux Paint <tux...@li...>, Tux Paint Users <tux...@li...> > > I discovered something called "Tux Paint Plus" today. I ran anti- > virusscanning software (clamav's "clamscan" tool) against it, and > it didn't > find anything, so I launched the program. (I used "Wine" under > Linux.) > It appears that this software installs not just Tux Paint (it's > very likely > that it's just regular Tux Paint, and nothing special -- I haven't > triedyet, though), but also some kind of 'search toolbar' in ones > web browser. > > Doing a quick search on Google for "open source plus toolbar," I > came across > an EULA (end user license agreement) for something called > "InfraRecorder Plus" > that has the same wording as the one I saw in "Tux Paint Plus." > > InfraRecorder is a CD/DVD writing tool for Windows that, like Tux > Paint,is released under the GNU GPL. > > So it looks like someone (whomever is responsible for this toolbar) is > grabbing open source software, wrapping this 'toolbar' software > around it, > and re-releasing it. > > > Does anyone out here have any additional comments or info about this? > It's not clear whether they are breaking the rules of the GPL (it > seems unlikely, as the EULA I read states: "These TOOLBAR TERMS OF USE > govern your use of the Toolbar only. Other terms of use govern any > other software that you may choose to install on your computer.") > > However, I'm worried about people becoming confused about "Tux Paint" > versus "Tux Paint Plus." It want it to be clear that the 'official' > versions of Tux Paint are the ones released by us, the current set of > developer volunteers, and that we cannot be held responsible for any > problems that come up by using this "plus" version. > > (During the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October, it was > recommended that we trademark the name "Tux Paint" to help avoid > these kinds > of issues. How do people feel about that?) > > Thanks in advance, > > -- > -bill! > "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS > X / Linux! > Download it today! http://www.tuxpaint.org/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, > Nevada.The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at > MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Tuxpaint-users mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users > ----------------------------------------- Cyngor Sir Powys County Council www.powys.gov.uk Mae'r e bost hwn ac unrhyw atodiad iddo yn gyfrinachol ac fe'i bwriedir ar gyfer y sawl a enwir arno yn unig. Gall gynnwys gwybodaeth freintiedig. Os yw wedi eich cyrraedd trwy gamgymeriad ni ellwch ei gopio, ei ddosbarthu na'i ddangos i unrhyw un arall a dylech gysylltu gyda Cyngor Sir Powys ar unwaith. Mae unrhyw gynnwys nad yw'n ymwneud gyda busnes swyddogol Cyngor Sir Powys yn bersonol i'r awdur ac nid yw'n awdurdodedig gan y Cyngor. This e mail and any attachments are confidential and intended for the named recipient only. The content may contain privileged information. If it has reached you by mistake, you should not copy, distribute or show the content to anyone but should contact Powys County Council at once. Any content that is not pertinent to Powys County Council business is personal to the author, and is not necessarily the view of the Council. |
From: Caroline F. <car...@go...> - 2008-12-14 20:45:53
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These toolbars are normally spyware, aren't they? What does this one do? Caroline |
From: Arnaud C. <arn...@la...> - 2008-12-14 20:48:06
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Caroline Ford a écrit : > These toolbars are normally spyware, aren't they? If they are, it should be possible to know it with the source code. If the source code is not available, we can say that they don't respect the GPL. Arnaud -- Arnaud Champollion 110 route de Trévans 04270 ESTOUBLON 04.92.35.57.03 06.66.45.80.95 Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org Rejoignez maintenant plus de 2 500 personnes, associations, entreprises et collectivités qui soutiennent notre action |
From: Mara M. <mar...@gm...> - 2008-12-14 22:18:03
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Dear Bill, I had a look, a lot of web pages offer the "Tux Paint Plus" to download. I am worried too, probably people can suppose it is something better than "normal" tuxpaint, because it is described as "an enhanced version of Tux Paint". I think it is better to understand if it is really an enhanced version of tuxpaint, and if not ... I can understand you, if you think to register the name "tuxpaint" as a registered tradename. Best regards, Mara (Italy) 2008/12/14, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>: > > I discovered something called "Tux Paint Plus" today. I ran anti-virus > scanning software (clamav's "clamscan" tool) against it, and it didn't > find anything, so I launched the program. (I used "Wine" under Linux.) |
From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2008-12-15 02:48:11
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On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:31:08PM +0100, Mara Morosini wrote: > I think it is better to understand if it is really an enhanced version > of tuxpaint, and if not ... > I can understand you, if you think to register the name "tuxpaint" as > a registered tradename. This is precisely what I'm thinking. -bill! |
From: Bruno D. <bru...@gm...> - 2008-12-14 23:14:08
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On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote: > > I discovered something called "Tux Paint Plus" today. I ran anti-virus > scanning software (clamav's "clamscan" tool) against it, and it didn't > find anything, so I launched the program. (I used "Wine" under Linux.) > > It appears that this software installs not just Tux Paint (it's very likely > that it's just regular Tux Paint, and nothing special -- I haven't tried > yet, though), but also some kind of 'search toolbar' in ones web browser. > > Doing a quick search on Google for "open source plus toolbar," I came across > an EULA (end user license agreement) for something called "InfraRecorder Plus" > that has the same wording as the one I saw in "Tux Paint Plus." > > InfraRecorder is a CD/DVD writing tool for Windows that, like Tux Paint, > is released under the GNU GPL. > > So it looks like someone (whomever is responsible for this toolbar) is > grabbing open source software, wrapping this 'toolbar' software around it, > and re-releasing it. > > > Does anyone out here have any additional comments or info about this? > It's not clear whether they are breaking the rules of the GPL (it > seems unlikely, as the EULA I read states: "These TOOLBAR TERMS OF USE > govern your use of the Toolbar only. Other terms of use govern any > other software that you may choose to install on your computer.") > > However, I'm worried about people becoming confused about "Tux Paint" > versus "Tux Paint Plus." It want it to be clear that the 'official' > versions of Tux Paint are the ones released by us, the current set of > developer volunteers, and that we cannot be held responsible for any > problems that come up by using this "plus" version. > > (During the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October, it was > recommended that we trademark the name "Tux Paint" to help avoid these kinds > of issues. How do people feel about that?) It's a good ideia. I think you should do it. > > Thanks in advance, > > -- > -bill! > "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux! > Download it today! http://www.tuxpaint.org/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Tuxpaint-users mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users > |
From: Caroline F. <car...@go...> - 2008-12-14 23:31:36
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I think we should trademark tuxpaint. I have a box with an xp partition here and I can install and test with various anti-spyware apps tomorrow. Caroline Sent from my iPod On 14 Dec 2008, at 02:15, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote: > > I discovered something called "Tux Paint Plus" today. I ran anti- > virus > scanning software (clamav's "clamscan" tool) against it, and it didn't > find anything, so I launched the program. (I used "Wine" under > Linux.) > > It appears that this software installs not just Tux Paint (it's very > likely > that it's just regular Tux Paint, and nothing special -- I haven't > tried > yet, though), but also some kind of 'search toolbar' in ones web > browser. > > Doing a quick search on Google for "open source plus toolbar," I > came across > an EULA (end user license agreement) for something called > "InfraRecorder Plus" > that has the same wording as the one I saw in "Tux Paint Plus." > > InfraRecorder is a CD/DVD writing tool for Windows that, like Tux > Paint, > is released under the GNU GPL. > > So it looks like someone (whomever is responsible for this toolbar) is > grabbing open source software, wrapping this 'toolbar' software > around it, > and re-releasing it. > > > Does anyone out here have any additional comments or info about this? > It's not clear whether they are breaking the rules of the GPL (it > seems unlikely, as the EULA I read states: "These TOOLBAR TERMS OF USE > govern your use of the Toolbar only. Other terms of use govern any > other software that you may choose to install on your computer.") > > However, I'm worried about people becoming confused about "Tux Paint" > versus "Tux Paint Plus." It want it to be clear that the 'official' > versions of Tux Paint are the ones released by us, the current set of > developer volunteers, and that we cannot be held responsible for any > problems that come up by using this "plus" version. > > (During the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October, it was > recommended that we trademark the name "Tux Paint" to help avoid > these kinds > of issues. How do people feel about that?) > > Thanks in advance, > > -- > -bill! > "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS > X / Linux! > Download it today! http://www.tuxpaint.org/ > > --- > --- > --- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, > Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to > help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Tuxpaint-users mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users |