tuxpaint-devel

[Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint issues on Windows

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

So I'm at my inlaws', and they have a Windows 2000 Professional system
with Tux Paint 0.9.19 installed on it.

I let my ~19 month old son bang around on it in fullscreen mode and
I noticed two very troublesome issues.

(1) Hitting the Windows or Menu key on the keyboard (I'm not sure which,
or if both do it) causes Tux Paint to disappear and the desktop to reappear.
We've discussed this previously, but now that I've seen it in action,
I'd _really_ like to see it fixed soon! :^)

(2) Hitting the Quit key sequence in Tux Paint (for when --noquit is set)
actually brings up the Windows task manager.  (Ctrl+Shift+Escape)
Oops!  Noone ever mentioned this conflict before!

I'll make sure both of these issues are bugged, and will assign them to
John (I hope that's ok!)

Thanks,

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint issues on Windows

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

Hi Bill,

yep, it's fine. I forgot about the Windows key suppression thing, damn!
The notifications are sat in my inbox, I'll take a look at them when I
get a chance,

cheers,
John.

On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 11:31:47PM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> 
> So I'm at my inlaws', and they have a Windows 2000 Professional system
> with Tux Paint 0.9.19 installed on it.
> 
> I let my ~19 month old son bang around on it in fullscreen mode and
> I noticed two very troublesome issues.
> 
> (1) Hitting the Windows or Menu key on the keyboard (I'm not sure which,
> or if both do it) causes Tux Paint to disappear and the desktop to reappear.
> We've discussed this previously, but now that I've seen it in action,
> I'd _really_ like to see it fixed soon! :^)
> 
> (2) Hitting the Quit key sequence in Tux Paint (for when --noquit is set)
> actually brings up the Windows task manager.  (Ctrl+Shift+Escape)
> Oops!  Noone ever mentioned this conflict before!
> 
> I'll make sure both of these issues are bugged, and will assign them to
> John (I hope that's ok!)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> -bill!
> "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
> Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/
> 
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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint issues on Windows

[Albert C. <aca...@gm...>]

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote:

> (2) Hitting the Quit key sequence in Tux Paint (for when --noquit is set)
> actually brings up the Windows task manager.  (Ctrl+Shift+Escape)
> Oops!  Noone ever mentioned this conflict before!

I figure that was the intent. The key sequence is built-in
on the Windows platform, already supplied by Microsoft.
Since Linux doesn't have a task manager key sequence
you can rely on, Tux Paint provides a compatible one.

(task manager being how you quit a program that won't
respond to normal quit events)

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint issues on Windows

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:52:06AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote:
> 
> > (2) Hitting the Quit key sequence in Tux Paint (for when --noquit is set)
> > actually brings up the Windows task manager.  (Ctrl+Shift+Escape)
> > Oops!  Noone ever mentioned this conflict before!
> 
> I figure that was the intent. The key sequence is built-in
> on the Windows platform, already supplied by Microsoft.
> Since Linux doesn't have a task manager key sequence
> you can rely on, Tux Paint provides a compatible one.
> 
> (task manager being how you quit a program that won't
> respond to normal quit events)

Well, I think it's unfriendly (and dangerous) to instruct people to
bring up the Windows task manager, since they can (1) lose their work in
Tux Paint if they don't realize that they need to click "End Task", then
click the Tux Paint task to bring it back up, so they can click "Yes"
to Tux Paint's "Quit, are you sure?" prompt, and (2) they can murder all
sorts of other processes.

What's a safe combination on Windows?  Ctrl+Alt+Esc?

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint issues on Windows

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 12:23:13AM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> <snip!>
> What's a safe combination on Windows?  Ctrl+Alt+Esc?

On my XP box, Ctrl+Alt+Esc gets interpreted as Alt+Esc and toggles
between windows. There is a 'List of the keyboard shortcuts that are
available in Windows XP' here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/301583

cheers,
John.