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From: David B. <dav...@gm...> - 2011-03-18 13:28:51
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Hi, In case anyone is interested, there is an article on Aviral Dasgupta, who contributed a ton of code to tux4kids for GCI and has remained an active member of the project. It isn't quite technically precise, but it is interesting, and it gives us a bit of nice publicity: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110318/jsp/jharkhand/story_13731856.jsp Cheers, David |
From: David B. <dav...@gm...> - 2011-03-18 13:25:46
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Hi, We are planning to participate on a limited basis - probably one student project each for tuxmath, tuxtype, and tuxmath - maybe less. We have lots of partially completed aspects to the programs at this time, so we don't want to do anything that is going to result in more unfinished business. So for GSoC, projects should either: 1. Wrap up partially completed work (migrate tuxtype to use t4kcommon, for example, or get tux4kids-admin into a releasable state). 2. Be completely self-contained projects, like a new minigame for tuxmath or tuxtype. Factoroids was added in this fashion a couple of years ago. The link for our ideas page is below, but be advised that it was copied from last year and hasn't been fully revised for 2011. http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/user/david_bruce/tux4kids Best, David |
From: Brendan L. <che...@gm...> - 2011-03-18 13:13:01
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Hey Deepak, The consensus is that TuxMath and -Type (I'm not sure about -Paint) are in a very unstable state due to past SoC projects. I believe this year's focus will be on TLC (tender, loving care) for the codebase. In particular, this means: Working out a cleaner separation between game code and libt4k_common (in many places, the line is rather unclear--my fault) Identifying "dead" code as well as code that has become fragile due to all the changes Integrating Tux4Kids-admin (I'm not sure on the priority of this--is the command-line admin tool still working properly?) Bug hunting Documentation The latter two are important, but I believe they're discouraged (if allowed at all) as SoC projects on their own. In general, though, I believe we'll be looking for well-reasoned proposals to improve the current state of affairs more than new features. Did I miss anything? Best, Brendan On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:18 AM, deepak aggarwal < dee...@gm...> wrote: > Hi David > Are we participating in gsoc this year. > If yes then what are the initial ideas suggested by you. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > A question and answer guide to determining the best fit > for your organization - today and in the future. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d > > _______________________________________________ > Tuxmath-devel mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxmath-devel > > |
From: deepak a. <dee...@gm...> - 2011-03-18 05:18:41
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Hi David Are we participating in gsoc this year. If yes then what are the initial ideas suggested by you. |
From: <vic...@gm...> - 2011-03-17 15:12:35
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Nobody ? I should work in other stuff then... On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:24 AM, vic...@gm... <vic...@gm...>wrote: > Hi > > I'm working on my GSoC project from last year and I would like some > feedback before I continue. > I edited only two files, src/editor.c and src/editor.h , so, if you copy > and paste it should work but I also have cloned my tuxtype.git at: > > http://www.students.ic.unicamp.br/~ra073811/tuxtype.git > > The goal of the changes was to improve the interface of library's editor. > > I still have some things to implement and a lot of code cleanup to do... > > Thanks, > > -- > ---------------- > Victor Toso > -- ---------------- Victor Toso |
From: Holger L. <ho...@la...> - 2011-03-17 10:47:32
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Hi, On Mittwoch, 16. März 2011, David Bruce wrote: > Anyone else on this list having issues with git? I assume it was just a temporary issue with alioth. Sometimes the machine is under very high load. If this happens, usually after 10-30min everything works normal again. cheers, Holger |
From: David B. <dav...@gm...> - 2011-03-16 20:35:26
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Hi, > Anyone else on this list having issues with git? Git's working fine AFAICT from my machines. David |
From: David B. <dav...@gm...> - 2011-03-16 18:28:59
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Hi, > In-fact i am not able to access tuxkids website > Is this a problem with our repositories or is there a connection > problem existing in my system. > > Looking for your reply. I'm at a windows machine at work so I can't test git right now, but http://alioth.debian.org and http://git.debian.org work fine from a web browser. Anyone else on this list having issues with git? David |
From: deepak a. <dee...@gm...> - 2011-03-16 16:14:12
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Hi David Today when i am committing in repositories then i get this weird error deep@ubuntu:~/tuxmath$ git pull ssh: connect to host git.debian.org port 22: Connection timed out fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly and when i try ssh command to connect to server then deep@ubuntu:~/tuxmath$ ssh -v git.debian.org OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-4ubuntu4, OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug1: Connecting to git.debian.org [217.196.43.134] port 22. debug1: connect to address 217.196.43.134 port 22: Connection timed out ssh: connect to host git.debian.org port 22: Connection timed out In-fact i am not able to access tuxkids website Is this a problem with our repositories or is there a connection problem existing in my system. Looking for your reply. |
From: David B. <dav...@gm...> - 2011-03-16 02:15:15
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Hi, Alioth uses self-signed security certificates, so you get these scary-sounding warnings. The Alioth admins have been aware of the situation for some time, and eventually it may get fixed, but Alioth is a completely unpaid volunteer operation. I can assure you that these really are our authentic packages (which is most of what the SSL certs would tell you - the browser warnings don't involve a check for viruses or malware). In the meantime, you can either: 1. Trust us and download from Alioth despite the warnings (you would have to trust in any event that we are honest folks who haven't put anything evil into our official packages). or 2. Go to SourceForge (http://sourceforge.net) where the identical packages are available for download. Unlike Alioth, SourceForge is run by a real company that has a budget for things like paid-for third-party SSL certificates, so you won't get these warnings there. Just search for "tuxmath" or "tuxtype" on the SourceForge site. Note that sometimes I don't get the SF.net sites updated for a while after a new release, but at the moment both tuxmath and tuxtype are current. I really wish this problem would go away. This is probably the 20th "tuxmath is infected!!!!!!" mail I have gotten due to this ssl thing. Hope that helps, David Bruce |
From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2011-03-15 22:01:25
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Peter tried to post this to tuxpaint-devel, but is not subscribed. Since Tux Paint isn't hosted at Alioth, and he's asking about TuxMath and TuxTyping, I'm fwd'ing it to these lists. No idea if he's subscribed to either, so Cc'ing him. Take care, -bill! ----- Forwarded message from tux...@li... ----- Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:22:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Enns <won...@ya...> Subject: download site (alioth.debian.org) is untrusted To: tux...@li... The download site for Tux of Mathe and Tux typing is flagged (by Firefox) as untrusted. Full warning message: This Connection is Untrusted You have asked Firefox to connect securely to alioth.debian.org, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure. Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified. What Should I Do? If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue. Technical Details alioth.debian.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is not trusted. (Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) I Understand the Risks ----- End forwarded message ----- -- -bill! Sent from my computer |
From: David B. <dav...@gm...> - 2011-03-12 23:50:52
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Hi Siddarth, On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Siddharth Kothari <sid...@gm...> wrote: > Hi everyone, > I need help to understand the functionality of tux4kids-admin, and the > difference between tuxmath-admin and tux4kids-admin. Is tux4kids-admin a > replacement for tuxmath-admin? tuxmath-admin is a command-line utility Tim Holy wrote a few years ago to manage high scores, summary files, and so forth. It works with the login system Tim wrote at the same time. tux4kids-admin is supposed to be an end-user- (i.e. teacher-) friendly GUI program to handle all aspects of using Tux4Kids apps in a classroom setting. It uses Qt4 for GUI elements. The problem is that it has never really been finished to the point of being ready to package for distribution. There is no documentation of what the program actually does, and only a tiny README saying how to build and run it. You really just need to clone the git repository and start looking around: git clone git+ssh://use...@gi.../git/tux4kids/tux4kids-admin.git HTH, David |
From: Siddharth K. <sid...@gm...> - 2011-03-12 19:03:25
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Hi everyone, I need help to understand the functionality of tux4kids-admin, and the difference between tuxmath-admin and tux4kids-admin. Is tux4kids-admin a replacement for tuxmath-admin? >From what I understand after using them is that Tuxmath-admin allows for configuring settings when there are multiple users, where as tux4kids-admin allows to do a similar thing using a GUI front end, but is applicable to both tuxmath and tuxtype. I believe there is more to it, but I do not know. I am also not able to find documentations related to this. I came across this article: http://en.opensuse.org/Tuxmath, which was a great help in using tuxmath-admin. I also read the gsoc proposal<http://vikassingh008.blogspot.com/>from the last year's accepted student on "enhancement and integration of tux4kids-admin with tuxmath and tuxtype". Can someone help me by either pointing to related documentation or explain briefly how else is tux4kids-admin supposed to be used? Thanks, Siddharth |
From: David B. <dav...@gm...> - 2011-03-12 18:38:40
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Hi, On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:54 AM, deepak aggarwal <dee...@gm...> wrote: > Hi David > When i am working on new server systemthen i encounter a serious problen in > my program that > whenever i run server then either core of my cpu core have 100% usage. > I know this is happening because there is a infinite loop in a thread. Any infinite loop needs to have throttling, which generally is done in SDL programs with SDL_Delay() so that the loop executes no more than once every e.g. 10 msec. t4k_common has a convenience function called T4K_Throttle() for this purpose, simply because we were writing identical throttling code in loops throughout the programs. hth, David |
From: deepak a. <dee...@gm...> - 2011-03-12 10:54:45
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Hi David When i am working on new server systemthen i encounter a serious problen in my program that whenever i run server then either core of my cpu core have 100% usage. I know this is happening because there is a infinite loop in a thread. void * main_thread(void * data) { int flag=1,choice,n; int temp; TCPsocket client_socket,server_socket; if(!child_intialize_thread()) { printf("\n There is some error while initializing thread"); return 0; } printf("\n Value of active ports is:%d",child_active_ports); // first server receive request from client to connect and open master server socket. To be created only once.-permanent if(common_connect_server(&host_ipaddress,&server_socket,2000,(const char *)NULL)==0) return (void *)1; while(quit) { //from here main problem starts i have to keep it in while loop so that it can accept if((client_socket=SDLNet_TCP_Accept(server_socket))) { // connect to different clients so that it can work as concurrent server. Is there any way pthread_mutex_lock(&child_mutex_variable); // is there any other way to do it and avoid high cpu usage. printf("\n Value of active ports:%d",child_active_ports); if(child_active_ports==0) { int temp=0; SDLNet_TCP_Send(client_socket,&(temp),2); SDLNet_TCP_Close(client_socket); pthread_mutex_unlock(&child_mutex_variable); } else { pthread_mutex_unlock(&child_mutex_variable); printf("\n Activating thread"); activate_thread(client_socket); } } } printf("\nEverything is OK now exiting"); SDLNet_TCP_Close(server_socket); cleanup_thread(); return NULL; } |
From: David B. <dav...@gm...> - 2011-03-11 03:09:43
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Hi Tim (and everyone), I just submitted the Tux4Kids organization application to participate in GSoC 2010. It was largely copied from last year's application. We need to update our ideas page fairly quickly: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/user/david_bruce/tux4kids I think it is editable by all members of our project on Melange, but I'm not really sure. Right now it just has last years ideas, many of which are still applicable. I'm planning to update it when I get up tomorrow, but feel free to edit it as you see fit with current ideas. Also - Brendan - I deputized you as our "backup admin", at least for the purposes of getting the form submitted. You shouldn't have to do anything unless I come down with a serious illness or something like that. Best, David |
From: <vic...@gm...> - 2011-03-10 04:32:20
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Hi, I was planning to apply as student because it's my last year at my university too. My goal was apply as student this year and as mentor next year... And also I think i did not participate enough to be a mentor... regards, -- ---------------- Victor Toso |
From: <vic...@gm...> - 2011-03-10 04:25:13
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Hi I'm working on my GSoC project from last year and I would like some feedback before I continue. I edited only two files, src/editor.c and src/editor.h , so, if you copy and paste it should work but I also have cloned my tuxtype.git at: http://www.students.ic.unicamp.br/~ra073811/tuxtype.git The goal of the changes was to improve the interface of library's editor. I still have some things to implement and a lot of code cleanup to do... Thanks, -- ---------------- Victor Toso |
From: Tim H. <ho...@wu...> - 2011-03-09 19:26:29
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On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:25:35 am David Bruce wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Brendan Luchen <bm...@ri...> wrote: > > So, though I > > think Aviral or Siddharth could do a fine job mentoring (especially for > > tasks with a wide scope such as cleanup or fixes), I'll give it a go if > > it really is necessary to keep us in the game. > > -Brendan > > OK, it looks like if everyone chips in we can do a "GSoC lite" with > maybe 1-2 slots. I will do what I can, but as I'm sure you can guess from my absence it will not be much! --Tim > > David > > _______________________________________________ > Tux4kids-discuss mailing list > Tux...@li... > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/tux4kids-discuss |
From: Pere P. i C. <per...@gm...> - 2011-03-09 18:59:39
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El dc 09 de 03 de 2011 a les 17:25 +0000, en/na David Bruce va escriure: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Brendan Luchen <bm...@ri...> wrote: > > So, though I > > think Aviral or Siddharth could do a fine job mentoring (especially for > > tasks with a wide scope such as cleanup or fixes), I'll give it a go if it > > really is necessary to keep us in the game. > > -Brendan > > OK, it looks like if everyone chips in we can do a "GSoC lite" with > maybe 1-2 slots. I can too help a little, specially if there is the possibility to co-mentor. Pere |
From: David B. <dav...@gm...> - 2011-03-09 17:25:54
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Hi, On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Brendan Luchen <bm...@ri...> wrote: > So, though I > think Aviral or Siddharth could do a fine job mentoring (especially for > tasks with a wide scope such as cleanup or fixes), I'll give it a go if it > really is necessary to keep us in the game. > -Brendan OK, it looks like if everyone chips in we can do a "GSoC lite" with maybe 1-2 slots. David |
From: Brendan L. <bm...@ri...> - 2011-03-09 13:42:54
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I'm in the same boat as Jesus--ready and willing to mentor, but probably not capable of giving it my full attention. IMHO, continued participation in SoC is very important for both the software and the org, even if it needs to be scaled back to one or two slots (unless that's not allowed). So, though I think Aviral or Siddharth could do a fine job mentoring (especially for tasks with a wide scope such as cleanup or fixes), I'll give it a go if it really is necessary to keep us in the game. -Brendan On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Aviral Dasgupta <avi...@gm...> wrote: > I could probably help, but then again, you're right about the "you wouldn't > want to be mentored by someone younger to you". > > > On 9 March 2011 09:17, Jesus Mager <fo...@gm...> wrote: > >> Hi David! >> >> It is hard the hear that no one have time this year! Sadly I am in my >> last year at the university, and I am very busy and I also don't want >> to leave a student with out attention. I got this experience the first >> time I was mentor. On the Admin question, it is hard for me because my >> nad English. >> But let me see, I can try to do an effort. My idea is continue the >> work on TuxHistory, but one of the biggest problems I have now is the >> lack of an integrated GUI TuxHistory. So I was thinking about the >> possibility of including a own (basic) GUI in TuxCommons. What do you >> think abut it? >> >> 2011/3/8 David Bruce <dav...@gm...>: >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > (sorry about the cross-post, I want to make sure this message gets out) >> > >> > As things stand now, no one has offered to be a mentor for this year's >> > GSoC for Tux4Kids. >> > >> > If you are too busy to make a commitment, I know how you feel, and >> > this year I sort of feel that way myself. I had hoped someone else >> > would offer to be the GSoC admin this year for our projects. I've >> > decided I'm willing to do that, as long as we have mentors for the >> > projects, but so far no one has agreed to be a mentor. >> > >> > If the consensus is to sit this year out, I'm more or less OK with >> > that. For sure on the tuxmath/tuxtype side, there are a ton of "loose >> > ends" that ought to be taken care of before we add major or invasive >> > new features, and I get the sense the same is true for Tux Paint. >> > Still, GSoC is our biggest opportunity to bring new developers into >> > the project, so I would like to participate if there is interest. But >> > if no one can mentor, it's a moot point. For the last two years, I >> > was both admin and mentor, and I felt like I didn't give my students >> > as much attention as they deserved. >> > >> > So, if you want to be a mentor, and it is news to you that we might >> > not participate this year due to lack of mentors, let me know right >> > away (as in by Thursday AM). The deadline for us to submit an >> > organization application is Friday. I don't want anyone feeling >> > shocked after the fact if we don't apply to participate this year. >> > >> > As always, thanks everyone for everything you have contributed. I >> > don't want anyone to get the idea that they should feel obligated to >> > volunteer. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > David Bruce >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Tux4kids-tuxtype-dev mailing list >> > Tux...@li... >> > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/tux4kids-tuxtype-dev >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Jesus Mager >> [www.h1n1-al.blogspot.com] >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Colocation vs. Managed Hosting >> A question and answer guide to determining the best fit >> for your organization - today and in the future. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d >> _______________________________________________ >> Tuxmath-devel mailing list >> Tux...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxmath-devel >> > > > > -- > Regards, > Aviral > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > A question and answer guide to determining the best fit > for your organization - today and in the future. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d > > _______________________________________________ > Tuxmath-devel mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxmath-devel > > |
From: Aviral D. <avi...@gm...> - 2011-03-09 06:52:07
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I could probably help, but then again, you're right about the "you wouldn't want to be mentored by someone younger to you". On 9 March 2011 09:17, Jesus Mager <fo...@gm...> wrote: > Hi David! > > It is hard the hear that no one have time this year! Sadly I am in my > last year at the university, and I am very busy and I also don't want > to leave a student with out attention. I got this experience the first > time I was mentor. On the Admin question, it is hard for me because my > nad English. > But let me see, I can try to do an effort. My idea is continue the > work on TuxHistory, but one of the biggest problems I have now is the > lack of an integrated GUI TuxHistory. So I was thinking about the > possibility of including a own (basic) GUI in TuxCommons. What do you > think abut it? > > 2011/3/8 David Bruce <dav...@gm...>: > > Hi everyone, > > > > (sorry about the cross-post, I want to make sure this message gets out) > > > > As things stand now, no one has offered to be a mentor for this year's > > GSoC for Tux4Kids. > > > > If you are too busy to make a commitment, I know how you feel, and > > this year I sort of feel that way myself. I had hoped someone else > > would offer to be the GSoC admin this year for our projects. I've > > decided I'm willing to do that, as long as we have mentors for the > > projects, but so far no one has agreed to be a mentor. > > > > If the consensus is to sit this year out, I'm more or less OK with > > that. For sure on the tuxmath/tuxtype side, there are a ton of "loose > > ends" that ought to be taken care of before we add major or invasive > > new features, and I get the sense the same is true for Tux Paint. > > Still, GSoC is our biggest opportunity to bring new developers into > > the project, so I would like to participate if there is interest. But > > if no one can mentor, it's a moot point. For the last two years, I > > was both admin and mentor, and I felt like I didn't give my students > > as much attention as they deserved. > > > > So, if you want to be a mentor, and it is news to you that we might > > not participate this year due to lack of mentors, let me know right > > away (as in by Thursday AM). The deadline for us to submit an > > organization application is Friday. I don't want anyone feeling > > shocked after the fact if we don't apply to participate this year. > > > > As always, thanks everyone for everything you have contributed. I > > don't want anyone to get the idea that they should feel obligated to > > volunteer. > > > > Best, > > > > David Bruce > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tux4kids-tuxtype-dev mailing list > > Tux...@li... > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/tux4kids-tuxtype-dev > > > > > > -- > Jesus Mager > [www.h1n1-al.blogspot.com] > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > A question and answer guide to determining the best fit > for your organization - today and in the future. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d > _______________________________________________ > Tuxmath-devel mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxmath-devel > -- Regards, Aviral |
From: Jesus M. <fo...@gm...> - 2011-03-09 03:47:41
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Hi David! It is hard the hear that no one have time this year! Sadly I am in my last year at the university, and I am very busy and I also don't want to leave a student with out attention. I got this experience the first time I was mentor. On the Admin question, it is hard for me because my nad English. But let me see, I can try to do an effort. My idea is continue the work on TuxHistory, but one of the biggest problems I have now is the lack of an integrated GUI TuxHistory. So I was thinking about the possibility of including a own (basic) GUI in TuxCommons. What do you think abut it? 2011/3/8 David Bruce <dav...@gm...>: > Hi everyone, > > (sorry about the cross-post, I want to make sure this message gets out) > > As things stand now, no one has offered to be a mentor for this year's > GSoC for Tux4Kids. > > If you are too busy to make a commitment, I know how you feel, and > this year I sort of feel that way myself. I had hoped someone else > would offer to be the GSoC admin this year for our projects. I've > decided I'm willing to do that, as long as we have mentors for the > projects, but so far no one has agreed to be a mentor. > > If the consensus is to sit this year out, I'm more or less OK with > that. For sure on the tuxmath/tuxtype side, there are a ton of "loose > ends" that ought to be taken care of before we add major or invasive > new features, and I get the sense the same is true for Tux Paint. > Still, GSoC is our biggest opportunity to bring new developers into > the project, so I would like to participate if there is interest. But > if no one can mentor, it's a moot point. For the last two years, I > was both admin and mentor, and I felt like I didn't give my students > as much attention as they deserved. > > So, if you want to be a mentor, and it is news to you that we might > not participate this year due to lack of mentors, let me know right > away (as in by Thursday AM). The deadline for us to submit an > organization application is Friday. I don't want anyone feeling > shocked after the fact if we don't apply to participate this year. > > As always, thanks everyone for everything you have contributed. I > don't want anyone to get the idea that they should feel obligated to > volunteer. > > Best, > > David Bruce > > _______________________________________________ > Tux4kids-tuxtype-dev mailing list > Tux...@li... > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/tux4kids-tuxtype-dev > -- Jesus Mager [www.h1n1-al.blogspot.com] |
From: David B. <dav...@gm...> - 2011-03-08 22:57:17
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Hi everyone, (sorry about the cross-post, I want to make sure this message gets out) As things stand now, no one has offered to be a mentor for this year's GSoC for Tux4Kids. If you are too busy to make a commitment, I know how you feel, and this year I sort of feel that way myself. I had hoped someone else would offer to be the GSoC admin this year for our projects. I've decided I'm willing to do that, as long as we have mentors for the projects, but so far no one has agreed to be a mentor. If the consensus is to sit this year out, I'm more or less OK with that. For sure on the tuxmath/tuxtype side, there are a ton of "loose ends" that ought to be taken care of before we add major or invasive new features, and I get the sense the same is true for Tux Paint. Still, GSoC is our biggest opportunity to bring new developers into the project, so I would like to participate if there is interest. But if no one can mentor, it's a moot point. For the last two years, I was both admin and mentor, and I felt like I didn't give my students as much attention as they deserved. So, if you want to be a mentor, and it is news to you that we might not participate this year due to lack of mentors, let me know right away (as in by Thursday AM). The deadline for us to submit an organization application is Friday. I don't want anyone feeling shocked after the fact if we don't apply to participate this year. As always, thanks everyone for everything you have contributed. I don't want anyone to get the idea that they should feel obligated to volunteer. Best, David Bruce |