Re: [Tsheetx-developers] Testing and target releases

[Peter L. <pal...@gm...>]

Dave,
I haven't looked at Mantis before. Is this it:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=33621&atid=408909

You mention it may it not be as agile as other tools, but I don;t think that
matters. Something simple, easy to use, and which provides some planning and
direction will be fine.

Why didn't I want to publish the list? Just so us developers won't be under
any pressure. And you answered that issue with the "politely ignore".

peter

On 10 May 2011 20:10, David Thompson <tom...@us...>wrote:

>  Peter
> Just to take up one of the points you make - feature lists and versions:
>
> We have used Mantis in the past, and I think it covers your wish very well.
> You can allocate any issue to a proposed version and manage the roadmap
> well. It may not be as "agile" as other tools, but I can live with that. And
> it demands a discipline from the developers => make sure you know on which
> issue you are working, and update it too.
>
> The other thing is, is that it is open and transparent. Anyone who
> registers can see the development status. This, I believe, is crucial to
> open source development. Why do you not want to publicise what we are doing?
>
> If you look through the Mantis database, there is at least one example
> where users have raised problems and pushed to get them resolved. How did we
> handle the pressure? Polite ignoring. We can handle the pressure.
> Everyone should accept that this is, as you say, an amateur effort, and if
> you need mission-critical professional support then TSNG is not the app for
> you.
>
> Saying that, I am a professional developer and I can send my contact
> details to anyone willing to pay my hourly rate :-) Mind you, if anyone
> needs help with 2.0, I'm not the man to hire - I haven't looked at the code
> in quite a while!
>
> > Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 13:28:48 +1000
> > From: pal...@gm...
> > To: tsh...@li...
> > Subject: [Tsheetx-developers] Testing and target releases
> >
> > The PHP support issue suggests we consider a couple of other issues.
> > These issues are a) some form of testing b) some feature lists and
> versions.
> >
> > If we are going to write and release software versions then some test
> > process and check-off process is needed.
> >
> > We are all working away to change things, but it is about time I think
> > to set some goals which we can focus on. A set of goals also allows some
> > software features to be released. Otherwise I feel we will be coding
> > until next year. If we agree on some feature based goals, without target
> > dates, then that gives us a way forward. The reason I said no target
> > dates is we are all volunteers with our lives to lead, so working toward
> > date targets will be difficult.
> >
> > So I suggest we compile a list of features we are working on, along with
> > their state of achievement. From that list we can aim to complete our
> > features and get them out there. I would suggest we keep our feature
> > list and release targets on the developer list only, and not publish it.
> > Then there is no pressure to get things released.
> >
> > Here is a short paper discussing some of the issues in software release
> > related to SubVersion 1.5.
> >
> http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDEQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fciteseerx.ist.psu.edu%2Fviewdoc%2Fdownload%3Fdoi%3D10.1.1.143.4757%26rep%3Drep1%26type%3Dpdf&ei=-azITeq1BoTsuAP-ncjcBQ&usg=AFQjCNFzQFzKlcwgp24ouyLd8wl3jAiA7w
> >
> > For testing, we could use some open source web testing tools. However
> > these tools would require a fair bit of work to set up. Here is an
> > article on three of them:
> >
> http://www.infoworld.com/d/architecture/three-open-source-web-service-testing-tools-get-high-marks-995?page=0,0
> >
> > And here are comments on even more tools:
> >
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/79733/best-automated-testing-tool-for-web-applications
> >
> > Alternatively, we could create a simple one page list of tests that a
> > release needs to achieve before its release.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
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