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From: Mark W. <ma...@rw...> - 2011-04-12 17:19:03
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There are lots of inherent problems with using the simple timesheet
in conjunction with other forms of time entry that I have always
just disabled the simple view.<br>
<br>
I think for the daily view, more than one clock on/off isn't really
required. The more elongated layout could cause issues as there
won't be much room for the drop down menus if there is long strings,
and the description being so small i don't think would work.<br>
<br>
A hybrid could work however? - Maybe:<br>
<br>
<table border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2" width="100%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Client:<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">[drop down]<br>
</td>
<td colspan="1" rowspan="3" valign="top">Message:<br>
</td>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="3" valign="top">[Message Box]<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Project:</td>
<td valign="top">[drop down]<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Task:</td>
<td valign="top">[drop down]<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Clock On:<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">[12-4-2011 ] [8.00 AM]<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">Clock off:<br>
</td>
<td rowspan="1" colspan="2" valign="top">[12-4-2011 ]
[5.00 PM]</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><br>
</td>
<td valign="top">[Clock on and/or off]<br>
</td>
<td valign="top"><br>
</td>
<td valign="top"><br>
</td>
<td valign="top"><br>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
<br>
Then rather than have the clocking box always visible at the top we
could use a bit of javascript to make it appear - slide in from
behind the menu for instance?<br>
One of the most annoying things i found was it took much longer to
enter times than spanned a day boundary. If the dates are already
in this form but preset to today's date, that would give users the
opportunity to clock over day boundaries. The other thing that I
found is that there should be validation on the message box to
restrict it to 255 chars or change the db so this limit is removed
as I sometimes entered rather long messages only to find that it was
truncated at a later date.<br>
<br>
If you wanted to add lots of times could you do it as follows:<br>
Use my form as the entry method then have a button that you could
click to add another clocking. The form above is then cleared and
the data you previously entered is summarised as per Scott's image
above it. the cross could be used to delete the time and another
icon next to the cross could be added to edit the stored info. You
would then need a final save btn:<br>
<br>
Maybe:<br>
<br>
<table border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2" width="100%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Client1<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">Project1<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">Task 1<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">Description<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">Times<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">edit/delete<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Client 2<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">Project2<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">Task 2<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">Description 2<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">Times<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">edit/delete<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><br>
</td>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="1" valign="top"><br>
</td>
<td valign="top"><br>
</td>
<td valign="top"><br>
</td>
<td valign="top"><br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Client:<br>
</td>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="1" valign="top">[drop down]<br>
</td>
<td colspan="1" rowspan="4" valign="top">Message:<br>
<br>
</td>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="4" valign="top">[Message Box]<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Project:</td>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="1" valign="top">[drop down]<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Task:</td>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="1" valign="top">[drop down]<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Clock On:<br>
</td>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="1" valign="top">[12-4-2011 ]
[8.00 AM]<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">Clock off: </td>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="1" valign="top">[12-4-2011 ]
[5.00 PM] </td>
<td valign="top"><br>
</td>
<td valign="top">Add another clock <br>
</td>
<td valign="top">Submit All!<br>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
<br>
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On 12/04/2011 17:11, Scott Miller wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:BAN...@ma..."
type="cite">Ok, so, I'm thinking about redesigning the daily time
entry form(s). Several months ago someone (may have been you,
Mark) asked about changing the simple form to have people record
starting and ending times, and I vehemently disagree with doing
that, but, remembering that got me thinking that perhaps the daily
form should look more like the simple form.<br>
<br>
The vision I currently have is something like the attached image,
where you have the client/project/task description, then some
radio buttons to clock on and off now, as well as time start/stop
entry areas. We could then remove the whole "pop up" dialog thing
currently at the top of the page.<br>
<br>
How does this sound? can we improve this form even more?<br>
<br>
-Scott<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Scott
Miller <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sco...@gm...">sco...@gm...</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">Hey Mark,<br>
<br>
I'm going to add my answers to the middle of your text below:<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div class="im">On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Mark
Wrightson <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ma...@rw..." target="_blank">ma...@rw...</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Ah ok fair
enough. Just wondering - do you think it would be a
good idea to get all the forms working again and get
to a point where we know the core functionality works
again before we do much more redesigning??<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div><font color="#339999"><br>
</font>
<div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">I
think it depends on the situation. If we want to
redesign something, now's the time to do it, so why
waste time fixing some area that you're planning to
completely redo? If you're not planning to redo an
area, then, yes, getting those forms to work again would
be working toward the end goal :-)<br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="im">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <br>
I'm not going to be able to do very much atall over
the next couple of months as it is "all hands on deck"
to get my disertation done. On another note I have
pretty much completed a upgrade system. It does the
following interactively:<br>
<br>
1. backup of db<br>
2.checks for any prerequisites<br>
3. performs db updates<br>
4. complete<br>
<br>
The only problem I currently have is that it works
fantastically when moving from version v1.5.3 to
v1.5.4 or even v1.5.3 to v1.6.0 as long as it is a
single jump. I can't currently handle: v1.5.3 to
v1.5.4 to v1.6.0.<br>
<br>
an upgrade basically consists of a new class file
called for example:<br>
upgradev1_5_3_to_v1_5_4.class.php<br>
so another file could be created i.e.<br>
upgradev1_5_3_to_v1_6_0.class.php in which case only a
single upgrade step<br>
is required and that will work fine (but starts to get
labour intensive creating files for every
permutation).<br>
<br>
I've written a script that can work out the necessary
upgrade path i.e. <br>
going from v1.5.3 to v1.6.0<br>
run the following upgrades:<br>
upgradev1_5_3_to_v1_5_4.class.php<br>
upgradev1_5_4_to_v1_6_0.class.php<br>
<br>
But this is the point where I stopped as I was
slightly concerned that if the database version is
1.5.3 and the code version is 1.6.0 and the code base
had changed significantly in 1.6.0 there is then a
possibility some of the code in the class file
"upgradev1_5_3_to_v1_5_4.class.php" would no longer
work correctly. <br>
<br>
Have you got any thoughts on this problem? <br>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div><br>
<div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(51, 102, 102);"><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"> Running each step is
the way to go. Modifying the database, since we
shouldn't be looking to the databases for much more
than the version number during the upgrade, it
shouldn't ever matter what information is in the
database while moving from one version through however
many upgrade files as needed to get to what the
current database schema should look like. As long as
each step is valid, you should be able to go through
all the steps. This is how the upgrade process has
worked in the past.</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0,
153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">Although it is
tempting to write upgrade scripts that are able to
jump from a past version directly to the new version,
this is not recommended because, as you've discovered
it makes loads more work for future upgrades.</span><br
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">The upgrade should
not attempt to figure out what code files need to be
changed/added/deleted. The upgrade process should
look like this:</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0,
153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">1. Old installation
with old database</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0,
153);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">2. download new
version</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">3. unpack the new
version</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">4. rename the old
version's directory something different: tsx ->
tsx.old or use version numbers or whatever</span><br
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">5. move the new
unpacked version to the original directory's name</span><br
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">6. optionally copy
a configuration file or two from the old system to the
new system to assist with the upgrade</span><br
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">6. open a web
browser to the site</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0,
153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">In this way, the
new version should be a completely clean upgrade, so
the only work that needs to be accomplished is the
upgrading of the database.</span><br>
</div>
<br>
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<div class="h5">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Cheers
<div><br>
Mark<br>
<br>
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<div> On 11/04/2011 23:33, Scott Miller wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">I had managed to wrap my
brain around most of it last Friday, but I
didn't get a chance to mess with it today. <br>
<br>
I'm actually toying with totally redesigning
the daily form, I'll try to email you tomorrow
detailing some ideas I had to redesign it, and
we can bat it back and forth.<br>
<br>
-Scott<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 11, 2011
at 10:30 PM, Mark Wrightson <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ma...@rw..."
target="_blank">ma...@rw...</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi
Scott, <br>
<br>
The "quite broken" aspect is probably to
do with the OO updates. Can i help
atall??<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
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<div> <br>
On 11/04/2011 21:05, Scott Miller
wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Hey
Isabelle, I am also attempting to
work on the clockOnOff stuff, as
it appears to be quite broken...<br>
<br>
Yes the "change the date" stuff is
in Javascript, but that doesn't
mean we can't embed PHP within the
java stuff, but I would also like
to enhance, or even replace that
whole area of the new system, so,
internationalizing that would
probably be premature at this
point.<br>
<br>
The submit times and supervisors
stuff are the "not ready for prime
time" attempts at a submission
& approval system for the
timesheet system. Again,
internationalization of this area
is probably premature...<br>
<br>
I would love to see the excel
system name changes you've made,
go ahead and submit that.<br>
<br>
-Scott<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon,
Apr 11, 2011 at 7:43 PM,
Isabelle Vergely <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ver...@fr..."
target="_blank">ver...@fr...</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid
rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">Hello,<br>
<br>
My today commit on Directory
branches/txsheet-2.0-demo/(=>
Revision 293)<br>
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- Modifications for
internationalization:<br>
* en-GB.ini, fr-FR.ini<br>
* clockOnOff.inc,
clockOnOff_core_new.inc,
clock_popup.php, stopwatch.php<br>
* template.php,
common.class.php, footer.inc<br>
* absences.php, monthly.php,
simple.php, weekly.php<br>
- Small modification in
timesheet.css<br>
<br>
Questions on txsheet-2.0-demo:<br>
------------------------------<br>
- I have also made changes for
excel filenames more
representative than<br>
"Timesheet_" .
date("Y-m").".xls"; I can also
commit these changes.<br>
- I would like to "translate
calendar" when displayed for
"Change the date"<br>
but it seems to be in js file;
it is right?<br>
- What are the goals of the
pages "submit times" and
"supervisors"?<br>
<br>
Isabelle.<br>
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