Re: trn-4.0-test77

[Patrick V. <pat...@pe...>]

On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, N.M. Maclaren wrote:

> Sorry - I missed this when you made it.

No problem at all and no apologies necessary.

> On Oct 19 2015, Patrick Vervoorn wrote:
>
>> Did you compile trn yourself, or did you install a default package from 
>> your Unix/Linux distribution? Or more generic, what are you running trn on?
>
> Compiled it myself.  I have found the causes, and they aren't a system
> issue.

Nice, was just checking for possible causes, since I've been running with 
a self-compiled (and self-patched) version of trn around(-ish) version 
test75. This had mainly to do with the inability of trn to handle (very) 
lage newsgroups. I switched to the regular builds when they fixed this 
around test76/test77. These added their own flavour of issues though. 
Anyway, all of this is (somewhat) ancient history.

>> Finally, something you more or less excluded above, but I cannnot help 
>> hinting towards it: it is worth considering using trn in trn-mode; it adds 
>> a lot of extra features which provide more control over how you read your 
>> news.
>
> As I said, I utterly abominate Unix raw mode, curses and everything to do
> with them, because of their appalling misdesign and ergonomics, and loathe
> threads!  If I can't get it to run in rn mode, I will go to a proper WIMP
> interface (possibly thunderbird, though it's pretty ghastly, too).

There's little point argueing taste; I've tried some of the graphical 
newsreaders but none allowed me to 'process' newsgroups as fast and 
efficient as trn could. Of course, nowadays, newsgroups aren't that large 
anymore, but still... I still prefer to navigate news using the keyboard, 
without having to handle a mouse.

> I have located those problems in the source, and trodden on them in the
> code.  Most seem to be the result of adding trn features without bypassing
> them in rn mode.  My hacks are not worth turning into fixes.

Nice this has been solved and working for you. Luckily trn doesn't see 
many new releases so you won't be very busy moving your patches to new 
releases. :)

>> Good luck, regards, Patrick.
>
> Thanks.  I have (largely) hacked around them now, but followup isn't
> working (probaably due to password issues).  Curiously, Pnews is.  I have
> some straces and will check what is different and see if I can find the
> offending code.

Weird indeed, because most of the actual posting is done by Pnews based 
upon the contents of the textfile it is fed.

> Regards,
> Nick Maclaren.

Regards, Patrick.