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From: windham l. <mst...@ho...> - 2002-10-11 03:28:40
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I booted up my slackware 2.4.19 kernel and untared the trinux-uml pkg and ran trinux-uml. everything boots fine but i get an error printed to the screen repeaditly while trying to do anything inside trinux-uml? the error is trinux# execlp of xterm failed - errno = 2execlp of xterm failed - errno = 2execlp of xterm failed - errno = 2 is the trinux-uml kernel in debug mode or am I missing something? thank you mstrhelix _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com |
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From: William S. <ws...@xs...> - 2002-10-10 09:51:52
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I have DL'd the latest iso image of 5sept02, but
before using it I went in and made a few changes
to remove dhcp and use a static connection.
In directory: trinux/tux/config
1. In file eth0 I deleted dhcp and added ip and netmask info.
2. Created 2 additional files "gateway" and "dns" and inserted
appropriate info in each.
On booting the cdrom,everything seemed to have loaded
up OK except networking. My rtl8139 based cardbus card
appears to be connected and recognized, but no
eth0 is generated (ifconfig eth0 shows nothing).
Is there a way to manually bring it up?
("ifconfig etho ... up")
Some questions:
Have I setup the files in trinux/tux/config correctly
to use a static connection?
Are the realtek cardbus cards supported?
Other than using dmesg output what are other
ways to get meaningful output to diagnose how
the system is loading/installing?
Can I remove modules and packages that I do not
need. I am thinking in terms of those that
relate to networ cards I do not use (3com, etc)
Thank you,
--
Bill
Amsterdam, NL
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From: windham l. <mst...@ho...> - 2002-10-09 02:59:56
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I dug up some info on the wierdness and it seems that prior to kernel release v2.4.19-pre6 that rootfs made an alias of ramfs. But kernel v2.4.19-pre6 fixes this. mstrhelix _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx |
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From: Matthew F. <mf...@ci...> - 2002-10-07 03:50:20
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> Matt I added rw to every instance of initrd in the syslinux.cfg file and it > booted fine with no errors, no problem... but when I check df for mounts it > shows > rootfs > /dev/ram0 > > both mounted on root and with the same stats. does this pose a problem? and > or could we just unmount rootfs and keep /dev/ram0? They are the same thing -- I'm not exactly sure how it works, but this was definitely a change from 2.4.18 to 2.4.19. I've been running these on multiple systems (and the ISOs I released last month) and I haven't encountered any problems. - mdf |
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From: windham l. <mst...@ho...> - 2002-10-07 03:30:10
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Matt I added rw to every instance of initrd in the syslinux.cfg file and it booted fine with no errors, no problem... but when I check df for mounts it shows rootfs /dev/ram0 both mounted on root and with the same stats. does this pose a problem? and or could we just unmount rootfs and keep /dev/ram0? thank you mstrhelix _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com |
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From: Matthew F. <mf...@ci...> - 2002-10-06 17:30:50
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Yes, this stumped me, too. Something changed in 2.4.19 with the initrd. Modify the syslinux.cfg on the floppy -- add "rw" like this: append initrd=initrd.gz root=/dev/ram0 rw - mdf > > When I attempt to boot trinux after replacing kernel image 2.4.5 with > 2.4.19 IDE it seems to mount something called rootfs and /dev/ram0 but then > stops and says that linuxrc cannot create dirs because / is a read only > file system? i've tried using the new and old initrd with different linuxrc > files and it seems maybe it has something to do with the new kernel or > something... i'm out of ideas... any help please? > thanks mstrhelix > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Trinux-talk mailing list > Tri...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk -- Matthew Franz mf...@ci... Critical Infrastructure Assurance Group (CIAG) Cisco Systems, Inc. Austin, TX |
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From: windham l. <mst...@ho...> - 2002-10-06 17:05:33
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When I attempt to boot trinux after replacing kernel image 2.4.5 with 2.4.19 IDE it seems to mount something called rootfs and /dev/ram0 but then stops and says that linuxrc cannot create dirs because / is a read only file system? i've tried using the new and old initrd with different linuxrc files and it seems maybe it has something to do with the new kernel or something... i'm out of ideas... any help please? thanks mstrhelix _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com |
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From: Matthew F. <mf...@ci...> - 2002-10-05 23:00:28
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They are VFAT (MS-DOS). Just replace the bzimage file. within Trinux # fmount (or mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /floppy) # cd /floppy # fumount I attached a 2.4.19 ide kernel (copy this to the boot floppy and rename it to bzimage) I'll also put one in http://devel.trinux.org/kernel/2.4.19/ Regarding a previous post asking for EXT3 support. The ext3 packages should be in the kernel package http://trinux.sf.net/pkg/2.4.19/linux-fs.tgz #getkpkg linux-fs > How would one remove an old kernel say 2.4.5 from an existing bootdisk and > replace it with a newer (2.4.19) kernel? i've tried using > dd if=/newkernel of=/dev/fd0 > and such but it seems to wipe my entire bootdisk... > also how would i go about creating my own trinux.img file? > |
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From: windham l. <mst...@ho...> - 2002-10-05 22:48:04
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How would one remove an old kernel say 2.4.5 from an existing bootdisk and replace it with a newer (2.4.19) kernel? i've tried using dd if=/newkernel of=/dev/fd0 and such but it seems to wipe my entire bootdisk... also how would i go about creating my own trinux.img file? _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com |
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From: <HHu...@t-...> - 2002-10-05 17:33:00
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Hallo, Timothy, Du meintest am 05.10.02 zum Thema [Trinux-talk] RH 8.0 downloads available: > Also, there is the latest KNOPPIX, which is great! KNOPPIX is a > fully functional Desktop Linux that boots entirely from the CD. It's really fine. But I am working with many computers who have no CD ROM drive - I need the Trinux disks too. And configuring the needed packets via net is also a nice feature of Trinux. I need both solutions ... Viele Gruesse! Helmut |
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From: Timothy B. <tb...@ar...> - 2002-10-05 15:51:21
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Again, off topic, but as I promised.... The RedHat 8.0 downloads can be gotten from my ftp servers... ftp.aaa-servers.com Also, there is the latest KNOPPIX, which is great! KNOPPIX is a fully functional Desktop Linux that boots entirely from the CD. Please do not repost, as I only have a T1, and I will have to throttle it if the traffic gets too heavy. Enjoy. -- -------------------- Timothy Burt General Manager Arbor Group LLC Los Angeles, Calif. USA |
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From: Jeremy L. <je...@ga...> - 2002-10-05 00:12:54
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On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Timothy Burt wrote: > Does anyone have the iso's for the new Redhat 8.0 release? > > The download is really slow (about 3 to 5 days) and I need them sooner > than that. > > Sorry for the off topic post.... > > When I get them I will post them on my server for download, for anyone who > asks. > > Thanks in advance.. I have the ISOs, but I'm on a cable modem connection with 15 KBps upload, so it would be impractical to send them. I had the same problem as you until I realized that the best thing to do is to connect to the international mirrors and download from there. Try downloading from a country where it's 3 in the morning there. I downloaded the whole thing from a mirror in Ireland in a couple hours, maxing out my cable line. Jeremy -- "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy |
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From: Riaan L. <ri...@ra...> - 2002-10-04 14:30:18
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Before I thank everyone especially Stephen Blake, Mathew Franz and Mr. P60 for the help, I would like to know how can I upgrade my kernel from 2.4.5 to 2.4.18 ( I need ext3 support). I tried to copy the bzImage file of 2.4.18 to the 2.4.5 Ide boot floppy but the bootup process hangs just after the kerle was unzipped. Thanks Riaan Labuschagne e-mail: ri...@ra... +27 83 4444148 +27 21 982 2223 +27 21 982 2225 (fax) Visit http://www.radioretail.co.za |
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From: Blake, S. <sb...@re...> - 2002-10-03 17:20:41
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Riaan, If you have the "master image" on a single partition somewhere, you could always just use dd to copy it and to master it onto the boxes from the cd. Something like this (assuming your master image is on partition /dev/hda3, and from what I read below, it seems like the target will be /dev/hda3, too.) $ dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/home/riaan/master-image.img (replace /home/riaan/ with wherever you want to store the image temporarily) Then you put master-image.img on a data CD with the CD software of your choice. Then in your script, to put the image onto your other boxes: # dd if=/mnt/cdrom/master-image.img of=/dev/hda3 Voila! Should be a perfect bit-for-bit copy of your master image. The only problem I can see with this scheme is if your /dev/hda3 partition is too big to fit on one CD. If so, if you have a spare disk around, make a partition on that disk exactly big enough to hold the files, make your master image on that partition, and then use that as the "if" parameter to the first dd command above. I may have missed something, so let me know if you have any questions about this approach. That's how I'd do it if I were tackling this problem. Stephen > -----Original Message----- > From: Riaan Labuschagne [mailto:ri...@ra...] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 6:14 PM > To: Trinux-Talk (E-mail) > Subject: RE: [Trinux-talk] Q - Timothy Burt - Backup or clone > hard drive > > > Exactly what I am busy with. The stores where our software (winNT) > is curently running in are distributed all over South Africa, > which is quit a > vast space. > > The staff at the stores where these machines are in operation > are also as > technically inclined as my cat, (ZERO). So I am busy building > a script that > will autoexecute in Trinux (once the store manager has put > the cd and floppy > in the machine and rebooted.). Then through the script > 1.)delete one of the NTFS partitions on the Disk. (It > currently has two > partitions, one 2GB and one 6GB) I have to preserve the 6Gb > partition due to > the data contained on it. (Here I am still OK thanks to > Timothy's cloning > article) > 2.) reformat the /dev/hda so that Debian will run on it. --> > 50Mb /boot, > 120Mb swap, 1200Mb / (Still no problems.) > 3.) copy the root filesystem from a cd (due to the fact that > I cannot use > the wan due to bandwidth constraints) onto the newly > formatted disk. (Here I > am a bit out of my league with the, I folloed Timothy's > cloning article but > the instead of sending it to a disk sent the data to a NFS > share. The data > seems to cpio fine. It is only when I run chroot that I get > the applet error > (I tried to reinstall the baselib.tgz but got; > > "trinux> getpkg baselib > Retrieving http://172.30.166.8/riaan/baselib.tgz > Initializing baselib > -- Rebuilding ld.so.cache > Segmentation fault > trinux> chroot > chroot: applet not found" > > 4.) If I use the command "lilo -r /new" as per the cloning > article I get " a > segment to large error" > > once I go and use the lilo on the mounted filesystem /mnt/sbin/lilo > -r /mnt -C etc/lilo.conf -v -v -v it seems as though MBR is written > to 5.) phone the store manager ask them to reboot the machines and > have a stable env. from where to run our system. > > The above mentioned are just for those "listening to this > thread to know > what I am trying to do. My questions however are: > 1. Can I tar the filesystem that I have made a copy of put it > on cd, untar > the tar onto the machine once the cd is in the machine at the > store without > losing files or permissions. (I got very cool reply from > Timothy and will > try it once I am back at work tomorrow morning (00:09 now) > P.S. Timothy I am > not sure what other file system I can use other than ISO? > Will the fact that > I tar the filesystem not solve my file permissions problems> > > 2.Is the whole Linux (Debian ) file system actually just a > bunch of files in > a bunch of directories that will, once they are copied to > another machine > act as it was cloned (varying sizes of the disk obviously > excluded) or is > there underlying detail that stops me from just copying teh > files over to a > new harddrive and expecting the machine to just boot up and > act like the > master machine. > > 3. If the baselib package is installed at boot time but I > still get chroot > applet errors after I reinstalled it: should I uninstall the > baselibs (How?) > and try ad reinstall it romm scratch. > > 4. Once I get all this mess sorted out will everyone that > helped me come for > a meal at my place (Cape Town SA --> sunny beaches nice girls > and a lot of > sun? > > Thanks. > > Riaan Labuschagne > e-mail: ri...@ra... > +27 83 4444148 > +27 21 982 2223 > +27 21 982 2225 (fax) > Visit http://www.radioretail.co.za > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy Burt [mailto:tb...@ar... > Sent: 02 October 2002 10:54 > To: P60 > Cc: ri...@ra...; Trinux-Talk (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Q - Timothy Burt - Backup or clone > hard drive > > > > Better to mail them the floppy, with an ssh login configured. > Then you > can make adjustments, monitor progress and fix problems during the > upgrade. > > And never leave your office. :-) > > Always good for the outer offices to have, in case their machine > won't boot. You can ssh into Trinux, and look at your disk, or > what is left of > it. Even fdisk and reformat it from the command line. And > overnight them > a new disk drive, if all else fails. With Trinux, you can do > the setup > from your chair. > > Of course, with a script in /tux/last, it can become a > brutally efficient > Windows exterminator. > > On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, P60 wrote: > > > > > > > > I will definitely look at it but the problem is that I > doing the restore > > > over a wan i.e. very low bandwidth. > > > > > Thinking about 430 machines, walking around with a CD, will > be more a > > problem I guess. If you're handy on writing scripts, you > could have each > > machine that already has the Debian-stuff on it serving (with > > netcat > again) > > to the NT ones who you'll have to boot from the trinux > netfloppy with a > nice > > little script in /tux/last. That way you'll only have to > walk around once > > with a single floppy. Then have a nap :-). The lower the > bandwidth, the > > longer the nap. > > > > Arne > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Trinux-talk mailing list > > Tri...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk > > > > -- > -------------------- > Timothy Burt > General Manager > Arbor Group LLC > Los Angeles, Calif. 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From: Riaan L. <ri...@ra...> - 2002-10-02 22:14:53
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Exactly what I am busy with. The stores where our software (winNT) is curently running in are distributed all over South Africa, which is quit a vast space. The staff at the stores where these machines are in operation are also as technically inclined as my cat, (ZERO). So I am busy building a script that will autoexecute in Trinux (once the store manager has put the cd and floppy in the machine and rebooted.). Then through the script 1.)delete one of the NTFS partitions on the Disk. (It currently has two partitions, one 2GB and one 6GB) I have to preserve the 6Gb partition due to the data contained on it. (Here I am still OK thanks to Timothy's cloning article) 2.) reformat the /dev/hda so that Debian will run on it. --> 50Mb /boot, 120Mb swap, 1200Mb / (Still no problems.) 3.) copy the root filesystem from a cd (due to the fact that I cannot use the wan due to bandwidth constraints) onto the newly formatted disk. (Here I am a bit out of my league with the, I folloed Timothy's cloning article but the instead of sending it to a disk sent the data to a NFS share. The data seems to cpio fine. It is only when I run chroot that I get the applet error (I tried to reinstall the baselib.tgz but got; "trinux> getpkg baselib Retrieving http://172.30.166.8/riaan/baselib.tgz Initializing baselib -- Rebuilding ld.so.cache Segmentation fault trinux> chroot chroot: applet not found" 4.) If I use the command "lilo -r /new" as per the cloning article I get " a segment to large error" once I go and use the lilo on the mounted filesystem /mnt/sbin/lilo -r /mnt -C etc/lilo.conf -v -v -v it seems as though MBR is written to 5.) phone the store manager ask them to reboot the machines and have a stable env. from where to run our system. The above mentioned are just for those "listening to this thread to know what I am trying to do. My questions however are: 1. Can I tar the filesystem that I have made a copy of put it on cd, untar the tar onto the machine once the cd is in the machine at the store without losing files or permissions. (I got very cool reply from Timothy and will try it once I am back at work tomorrow morning (00:09 now) P.S. Timothy I am not sure what other file system I can use other than ISO? Will the fact that I tar the filesystem not solve my file permissions problems> 2.Is the whole Linux (Debian ) file system actually just a bunch of files in a bunch of directories that will, once they are copied to another machine act as it was cloned (varying sizes of the disk obviously excluded) or is there underlying detail that stops me from just copying teh files over to a new harddrive and expecting the machine to just boot up and act like the master machine. 3. If the baselib package is installed at boot time but I still get chroot applet errors after I reinstalled it: should I uninstall the baselibs (How?) and try ad reinstall it romm scratch. 4. Once I get all this mess sorted out will everyone that helped me come for a meal at my place (Cape Town SA --> sunny beaches nice girls and a lot of sun? Thanks. Riaan Labuschagne e-mail: ri...@ra... +27 83 4444148 +27 21 982 2223 +27 21 982 2225 (fax) Visit http://www.radioretail.co.za -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Burt [mailto:tb...@ar... Sent: 02 October 2002 10:54 To: P60 Cc: ri...@ra...; Trinux-Talk (E-mail) Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Q - Timothy Burt - Backup or clone hard drive Better to mail them the floppy, with an ssh login configured. Then you can make adjustments, monitor progress and fix problems during the upgrade. And never leave your office. :-) Always good for the outer offices to have, in case their machine won't boot. You can ssh into Trinux, and look at your disk, or what is left of it. Even fdisk and reformat it from the command line. And overnight them a new disk drive, if all else fails. With Trinux, you can do the setup from your chair. Of course, with a script in /tux/last, it can become a brutally efficient Windows exterminator. On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, P60 wrote: > > > > I will definitely look at it but the problem is that I doing the restore > > over a wan i.e. very low bandwidth. > > > Thinking about 430 machines, walking around with a CD, will be more a > problem I guess. If you're handy on writing scripts, you could have each > machine that already has the Debian-stuff on it serving (with netcat again) > to the NT ones who you'll have to boot from the trinux netfloppy with a nice > little script in /tux/last. That way you'll only have to walk around once > with a single floppy. Then have a nap :-). The lower the bandwidth, the > longer the nap. > > Arne > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Trinux-talk mailing list > Tri...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk > -- -------------------- Timothy Burt General Manager Arbor Group LLC Los Angeles, Calif. USA |
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From: Timothy B. <tb...@ar...> - 2002-10-02 20:54:26
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Better to mail them the floppy, with an ssh login configured. Then you can make adjustments, monitor progress and fix problems during the upgrade. And never leave your office. :-) Always good for the outer offices to have, in case their machine won't boot. You can ssh into Trinux, and look at your disk, or what is left of it. Even fdisk and reformat it from the command line. And overnight them a new disk drive, if all else fails. With Trinux, you can do the setup from your chair. Of course, with a script in /tux/last, it can become a brutally efficient Windows exterminator. On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, P60 wrote: > > > > I will definitely look at it but the problem is that I doing the restore > > over a wan i.e. very low bandwidth. > > > Thinking about 430 machines, walking around with a CD, will be more a > problem I guess. If you're handy on writing scripts, you could have each > machine that already has the Debian-stuff on it serving (with netcat again) > to the NT ones who you'll have to boot from the trinux netfloppy with a nice > little script in /tux/last. That way you'll only have to walk around once > with a single floppy. Then have a nap :-). The lower the bandwidth, the > longer the nap. > > Arne > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Trinux-talk mailing list > Tri...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk > -- -------------------- Timothy Burt General Manager Arbor Group LLC Los Angeles, Calif. USA |
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From: P60 <akd...@ka...> - 2002-10-02 19:36:31
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> I will definitely look at it but the problem is that I doing the restore > over a wan i.e. very low bandwidth. > Thinking about 430 machines, walking around with a CD, will be more a problem I guess. If you're handy on writing scripts, you could have each machine that already has the Debian-stuff on it serving (with netcat again) to the NT ones who you'll have to boot from the trinux netfloppy with a nice little script in /tux/last. That way you'll only have to walk around once with a single floppy. Then have a nap :-). The lower the bandwidth, the longer the nap. Arne |
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From: Matthew F. <mf...@ci...> - 2002-10-02 18:13:05
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Ok. Sorry. Somebody asked about this a while back. I added /bin/chroot to the baselib.tgz. It should be available at: http://trinux.sf.net/pkg/baselib.tgz http://devel.trinux.org/pkg/baselib.tgz The latest floppy snapshots (and the ISOs) shouldn't even give you that error? The next time I rebuild the initrd I'll either add the busybox applet or the chroot binary, but baselib.tgz should get you by for now. - mdf > Could someone please tell me in which package "chroot" is. > > When I run chroot I get --> an applet error. > > Riaan Labuschagne > e-mail: ri...@ra... > +27 83 4444148 > +27 21 982 2223 > +27 21 982 2225 (fax) > Visit http://www.radioretail.co.za > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy Burt [mailto:tb...@ar...] > Sent: 02 October 2002 06:20 > To: Riaan Labuschagne > Cc: Trinux-Talk (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Q - Timothy Burt - Backup or clone hard drive > > > > The CD creation process currently separates the "building of the iso > filesystem" from the "burning of the cd". This is because the > building of the iso usually impacts the burn, and the burn can fail due to > the pipeline becoming empty, or because of cpu/disk load gets too high. > > So, you need to perform your backup to cd in two phases. The creation of > the iso filesystem from the current disk (creating an image), and then > burn the image to CD. You can burn the image to CD with any OS, including > windows. The task is to create the image. > > Ideally, you want the image created from a quiet filesystem, not one that > is the root of a running multi-user mode UNIX. I have accomplished this > by running in single user mode, but this failed for some reason on some > recent RH releases, so I now mount the filesystem to be backed up on the > /mnt of a running OS. And I use Trinux as the running OS, on which to > mount my filesystem. > > With the hard disk mounted on /mnt, the challange now becomes where to put > the data that gets dumped into the image file. Ideally, this should be on > a filesystem other than the filesystem that is being backed up. Although > with some effort, you might be able to create your image and skip the > image file itself. See below. > > In my previous description, this problem was solved by physically mounting > the new disk onto the controller. Mount them both, and copy from one to > the other. But in this scenario, we do not have a new disk to use, > because we are building an ISO that we can later burn to a CD. > > Some options you may have available include: > > 1) attach a spare hard disk, and build your iso on it. > 2) use an nfs mounted filesystem, but could be really slow. > 3) use a modified buildiso command (find |grep -v isofilename.iso | > mkisofs) that strips out the iso filename. > > Which choice may depend on your resources and the speed with which you > need to accomplish the task... > > If the machine is an internet server, then you want this to happen fast, > so I would suggest option 1 (or 3). A permanently mounted extra > filesystem would be ideal. You may need to go single user, while the > backup happens, but this could be for as little as a minute or two. Or up > to 30 YMMV. > > If it is an internal office server that is totally quiet and unused at > times of the day, then you could easily use option 2, as often as you > like. > > Of Course.... Once you have a copy of your root filesystem imaged onto > the CD, then it is a simple task to boot from Trinux, mount the hard disk, > and mount the cd and do a find . -print | cpio -pmduv /mnt/harddisk.. > Sometimes you need a quick lilo to make it boot. > > This is an excellent mechanism for preserving the state of a known good > running machine. It can be done on a regular basis, and efficiently > stored off site. It might also be accomplished nightly. I highly > recommend it. > > FINAL HINT -- I haven't ever done what is described, so I don't have the > exact commands, but it should work. Also, you might also consider burning > an image to the CD that is NOT ISO, but a more Unix friendly FS. This may > help preserve ownership and perms issues, if you encounter any. ISO, as a > standard, does not preserve UNIX perms. (correct me if I am wrong, please) > > On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Riaan Labuschagne wrote: > > > > > Timothy, > > I refer to your "clone hard drive" howto you wrote. > > > > Is there a way that I can tar the contents of a backed up disc, copy it to > > cd, untar it on a partition on the new hard drive and restore the disc, > > whilts keeping the permissions etc? > > > > I AM NOT LOOKING for a howto, just some pointers please. > > > > Thanks > > Riaan Labuschagne > > > > P.S. Trinux is helping my business www.radioretail.co.za a hell of allot. > I > > am in the process of upgrading 430 WinNT machines to Debian without any > > human intervention. (no keyboard , mouse or screens on the machines.) > > > > ri...@ra... > > |
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