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Hi,
may (and HOW) I submit track for revision and possibly incorporation into
the project?

BR,
mr_3d

Am Freitag, den 19.06.2015, 14:46 +0200 schrieb Ons...@ri...:
> On 2015-06-19 14:20, Tobias Frost wrote:
> > Can you please also add the icons to the
> > trigger-rally-($VER)-src.tar.bz2 for the next release? With that, any
> > changes on the icon from your side would be automatically used.
> > (It is sufficient to just add the svg, as in Debian we try to build
> > everything from source, so we would regenerate the icon anyway at build
> > time)
> 
> I think that has benn done already, but maybe it was in the wrong 
> folder.

Nope, it is not in the tarball:
$ sha256sum trigger-rally-0.6.2-src.tar.bz2 
0e554cbb362e41019f2495657dec8378126d4d21128774daecd6d2f7632ceb55
trigger-rally-0.6.2-src.tar.bz2

trigger-rally-0.6.2$ find . -name '*.svg'
trigger-rally-0.6.2$ find . -name '*.png'
trigger-rally-0.6.2$ find . -name '*icon*'

> Thank you for your help.
> 
> Best,
> Onsemeliot
> 
> P.S.:
> For future communication please use my gmail address since the riseup 
> address is causing problems lately: ons...@gm...

--
tobi

On 2015-06-19 14:20, Tobias Frost wrote:
> Can you please also add the icons to the
> trigger-rally-($VER)-src.tar.bz2 for the next release? With that, any
> changes on the icon from your side would be automatically used.
> (It is sufficient to just add the svg, as in Debian we try to build
> everything from source, so we would regenerate the icon anyway at build
> time)

I think that has benn done already, but maybe it was in the wrong 
folder.

Thank you for your help.

Best,
Onsemeliot

P.S.:
For future communication please use my gmail address since the riseup 
address is causing problems lately: ons...@gm...

Source: trigger-rally
Severity: Wishlist

Am Samstag, den 27.12.2014, 14:13 +0100 schrieb Onsemeliot:
> Hi Tobias, Stefan and the rest of the team,
> 
> I'm so happy Trigger Rally will be in the next Debain release. You gave
> me a huge motivation boost.
> 
> I just wanted to point out we have added a neat new game Icon under
> "data/icos": A little red racing car. It's available in various sizes as
> png and as an svg file with layers for the different sizes. I'm not sure
> if it is implemented yet since I only work with a source compiled
> version so far which doesn't use the install routine in order to being
> able to add new maps. (I'm not much of a technician.)
> 
> My colleague seems to think the icon doesn't load. Please see the last
> post in this thread for reference:
> http://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/discussion/527953/thread/43310392/?limit=25#a588
> 
> Could someone of you check if the icon actually gets used?
> 
> Cheers,
> Onsemeliot
> 
> 

Hi Onsemeliot,

Thanks for the information... Yes, it seems that Debian is still using
the old icon. (Filling a bug with that mail; please note when you file
it as a Debian bug, it cannot be forgotten so easily -- I almost did as
you can see from my response time) 

However, I have one request: Can you please also add the icons to the
trigger-rally-($VER)-src.tar.bz2 for the next release? With that, any
changes on the icon from your side would be automatically used.
(It is sufficient to just add the svg, as in Debian we try to build
everything from source, so we would regenerate the icon anyway at build
time)

Thanks and many thanks for the enjoyable game!

--
tobi 

Hi Trigger Rally developers!

Liviu and Ivan where quite active in late October 2014 and made our
0.6.1 release for the Debain freeze possible. But since months I have
been adding new maps and events to Trigger Rally without any feedback at
all. In the discussion board on Sourceforge nobody of the most recent
team has been around for ages.

Since nobody left a notice about leaving the project I am wondering if I
really am the last one left.

I think I do not even have the privileges to update the repository.
Therefore even if I was able to master the technical necessities I
wouldn't be able to do anything with the repository myself.

Because of that I'm under the impression the project has died a very
silent death leaving me as a zombie on the graveyard. I am willing to do
my best to carry on, but under the given circumstances I might not be
able to.

I get that the game is a decade old and wasn't really developed any
further since then, but I still own a computer where playing newer games
wouldn't be possible since I lack a 3D-acceleration card.

It's as well a shame since now there are 118 races already, which is
much more than ever before. I made an overview of all the races in an
html menu-mockup:

http://trigger-rally.sourceforge.net/plugins/races.php

My grasp of the technical reality concerning Trigger Rally's code is
very limited, but I think it could be further developed and still be
interesting for new people.

What are your thoughts on how to proceed?

Best
Onsemeliot

On Mon, 2014-12-29 at 09:58 +0100, Stefan Potyra wrote:
> The Debian package still uses the old icon present there. I hope to find some
> time to fix this soon.

Thank you for your feedback, Stefan. It would be great if Jessie had the
new icon...

Cheers
Onsemeliot

Hi Onsemeliot,

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:58:16PM +0100, Onsemeliot wrote:
> Hi Tobias, Stefan and the rest of the team,
> 
> I'm so happy Trigger Rally will be in the next Debain release. You gave
> me a huge motivation boost.
> 
> I just wanted to point out we have added a neat new game Icon under
> "data/icos": A little red racing car. It's available in various sizes as
> png and as an svg file with layers for the different sizes. I'm not sure
> if it is implemented yet since I only work with a source compiled
> version so far which doesn't use the install routine in order to being
> able to add new maps. (I'm not much of a technician.)
> 
> My colleague seems to think the icon doesn't load. Please see the last
> post in this thread for reference:
> http://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/discussion/527953/thread/43310392/?limit=25#a588
> 
> Could someone of you check if the icon actually gets used?

The Debian package still uses the old icon present there. I hope to find some
time to fix this soon.

Cheers,
  Stefan.

Hi Tobias, Stefan and the rest of the team,

I'm so happy Trigger Rally will be in the next Debain release. You gave
me a huge motivation boost.

I just wanted to point out we have added a neat new game Icon under
"data/icos": A little red racing car. It's available in various sizes as
png and as an svg file with layers for the different sizes. I'm not sure
if it is implemented yet since I only work with a source compiled
version so far which doesn't use the install routine in order to being
able to add new maps. (I'm not much of a technician.)

My colleague seems to think the icon doesn't load. Please see the last
post in this thread for reference:
http://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/discussion/527953/thread/43310392/?limit=25#a588

Could someone of you check if the icon actually gets used?

Cheers,
Onsemeliot

Hi,

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 07:14:32PM +0200, Onsemeliot wrote:
> Great, thank you very much, Tobi.

Dito! And thanks a lot to everyone involved in making this possible!

> 
> Thanks to you there is light in the tunnel. :)
> 
> Cheers
> Onsemeliot
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 18:25 +0200, Tobias Frost wrote:
> > Dear all, 
> > 
> > Ok, its now uploading... (Will take several minutes due to the size,
> > bandwith limitation)
> > 
> > Some remarks: 
> > - I did the upload as an NMU, but directly without using DELAYED -- (I
> > see Stefan's mail as authorization)

Definitely! trigger-rally is team-maintained after all, so you could have just
made a regular team-upload ;).

> > - Stefan, the package needs some severe overhaul. (you probably know)
> > But thats something for the long evenings during freeze to work on :)

Yes.

> > - I will later scp the orig.tar.bz2 later to
> > alioth.debian.org:/home/groups/pkg-games/htdocs/tarballs/
> > - The upload was in a rush, please do some tests and if something goes
> > havoc remember to avoid that the transistion to testing will suceed
> > (because then also the old version will not be in Jessie)
> > - I will NOT push the changes to SVN -- I'm likely to break things here,
> > so I will keep my fingers away (I'm a git guy and I don't like those
> > sparse repositories). So please get the changes from the archives when
> > they hit it and puah them yourself.

Ok, I'll try to find some time to get the changes in svn. (btw. would a switch
to git for the packageing seem reasonable? Unfortunately, I don't have
experience with git-maintained packages myself, so I'd be happy for some support
on that matter).

Oh, and on a side note: The reason I'm busy is that I'm building a house, so I
fear that I won't have too much time for the next half year :(.

Cheers, and once again thanks for all of your work!
  Stefan.

Great, thank you very much, Tobi.

Thanks to you there is light in the tunnel. :)

Cheers
Onsemeliot

On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 18:25 +0200, Tobias Frost wrote:
> Dear all, 
> 
> Ok, its now uploading... (Will take several minutes due to the size,
> bandwith limitation)
> 
> Some remarks: 
> - I did the upload as an NMU, but directly without using DELAYED -- (I
> see Stefan's mail as authorization)
> - Stefan, the package needs some severe overhaul. (you probably know)
> But thats something for the long evenings during freeze to work on :)
> - I will later scp the orig.tar.bz2 later to
> alioth.debian.org:/home/groups/pkg-games/htdocs/tarballs/
> - The upload was in a rush, please do some tests and if something goes
> havoc remember to avoid that the transistion to testing will suceed
> (because then also the old version will not be in Jessie)
> - I will NOT push the changes to SVN -- I'm likely to break things here,
> so I will keep my fingers away (I'm a git guy and I don't like those
> sparse repositories). So please get the changes from the archives when
> they hit it and puah them yourself.
> 
> Thanks!
> 

Dear all, 

Ok, its now uploading... (Will take several minutes due to the size,
bandwith limitation)

Some remarks: 
- I did the upload as an NMU, but directly without using DELAYED -- (I
see Stefan's mail as authorization)
- Stefan, the package needs some severe overhaul. (you probably know)
But thats something for the long evenings during freeze to work on :)
- I will later scp the orig.tar.bz2 later to
alioth.debian.org:/home/groups/pkg-games/htdocs/tarballs/
- The upload was in a rush, please do some tests and if something goes
havoc remember to avoid that the transistion to testing will suceed
(because then also the old version will not be in Jessie)
- I will NOT push the changes to SVN -- I'm likely to break things here,
so I will keep my fingers away (I'm a git guy and I don't like those
sparse repositories). So please get the changes from the archives when
they hit it and puah them yourself.

Thanks!

-- 
tobi

Am Donnerstag, den 23.10.2014, 19:31 +0200 schrieb Stefan Potyra:
> Hi Onsemeliot,
> 
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:17:28PM +0200, Onsemeliot wrote:
> > Hi Stefan, hi developers list people,
> > 
> > I hope we are ńot moving to slowly.
> > 
> > We decided to postpone our argument about car textures and names for the
> > moment and go for a new release just with all the new maps and events
> > using the same car textures and names we had last time:
> > 
> > https://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/discussion/527953/thread/1d0f3cb6/
> > 
> > Stefan, do you still think you will be able to do a Debian package in
> > time for the Jessie freeze?
> 
> I fear, that we won't hit the deadline, see
> <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/09/msg00002.html>
> 
> To reach the 10-day testing migration interval, we'd need to have a package
> ready by this Saturday. Since I'm busy tomorrow and on Saturday, I fear that I
> can't upload an updated package.
> 
> Do you think you can make a new upstream release by that time? That's a
> precondition to get an updated Debian package in.
> 
> CC'ing debian-devel-games: Anyone of you who has the time to jump in?
> 
> Cheers,
>   Stefan.

Yes, there is a question:
Is there a version requirment on the data?
So must the data be of the same version?

Am Samstag, den 25.10.2014, 17:37 +0200 schrieb Onsemeliot:
> On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 17:15 +0200, Tobias Frost wrote:
> > I'll take a look!
> 
> Wow, thank you so much. I hope everything works out.
> 
> Let me know if you need any additional (non-technical) information or
> assistance!
> 
> The link to the most recent version again:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/trigger-rally/files/trigger-rally/trigger-0.6.1/
> 
> Cheers
> Onsemeliot
> 

I'll take a look!
If someone is already working on it, I recommend joining effort via IRC
#games-debian

Am Donnerstag, den 23.10.2014, 19:31 +0200 schrieb Stefan Potyra:
> Hi Onsemeliot,
> 
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:17:28PM +0200, Onsemeliot wrote:
> > Hi Stefan, hi developers list people,
> > 
> > I hope we are ńot moving to slowly.
> > 
> > We decided to postpone our argument about car textures and names for the
> > moment and go for a new release just with all the new maps and events
> > using the same car textures and names we had last time:
> > 
> > https://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/discussion/527953/thread/1d0f3cb6/
> > 
> > Stefan, do you still think you will be able to do a Debian package in
> > time for the Jessie freeze?
> 
> I fear, that we won't hit the deadline, see
> <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/09/msg00002.html>
> 
> To reach the 10-day testing migration interval, we'd need to have a package
> ready by this Saturday. Since I'm busy tomorrow and on Saturday, I fear that I
> can't upload an updated package.
> 
> Do you think you can make a new upstream release by that time? That's a
> precondition to get an updated Debian package in.
> 
> CC'ing debian-devel-games: Anyone of you who has the time to jump in?
> 
> Cheers,
>   Stefan.

On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 17:15 +0200, Tobias Frost wrote:
> I'll take a look!

Wow, thank you so much. I hope everything works out.

Let me know if you need any additional (non-technical) information or
assistance!

The link to the most recent version again:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/trigger-rally/files/trigger-rally/trigger-0.6.1/

Cheers
Onsemeliot

Hi again,

Liviu thankfully finished the new upsteam version 0.6.1 in the SVN of
the Trigger Rally Sourceforge page:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/trigger-rally/files/trigger-rally/trigger-0.6.1/

Unfortunately we didn't find anyone able and willing to help us with
packaging this new version for Debian Jessie in time (today).

Normally Stefan Potyra would be so kind to do that, but he already told
us he is buzy on something else.

Liviu thinks this shouldn't be much work for an experienced packager and
should take less than 15 minutes since there was no real code change,
but new textures and maps.

Please help us out if you can! It would be a shame to wait an other 24
to 36 months to get our work from the last years available for Debian
gamers.

If you accept some kind of bribe for helping out, please let me know! ;)

Cheers
Onsemeliot

Hi there,

Liviu was quite buzy yesterday. I asked him to reply to this discussion
here as soon as he thinks the SVN is in a fitting state for a new
upstream version.

There shouldn't be anything new to test since the came code is still the
same. We just added maps and textures. And those are well tested already
independently - at least on my Debain system. :)

Please help us if anyone is reading this who could possibly do a Debain
package in time!

Today seems to be really the last day to do this since 25th of October
is just 10 days from the final freeze date of 5th of November. And since
10 days are the minimum time a package needs to be in testing before the
freeze a new version of Trigger Rally in Debian Jessie depends on
meeting this deadline.

Sorry for this last minute call, but I didn't know how close the freeze
for Debian really was until Stefan mentioned it.

Cheers
Onsemeliot

On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 19:31 +0200, Stefan Potyra wrote:
> Hi Onsemeliot,
> 
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:17:28PM +0200, Onsemeliot wrote:
> > Hi Stefan, hi developers list people,
> > 
> > I hope we are ńot moving to slowly.
> > 
> > We decided to postpone our argument about car textures and names for the
> > moment and go for a new release just with all the new maps and events
> > using the same car textures and names we had last time:
> > 
> > https://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/discussion/527953/thread/1d0f3cb6/
> > 
> > Stefan, do you still think you will be able to do a Debian package in
> > time for the Jessie freeze?
> 
> I fear, that we won't hit the deadline, see
> <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/09/msg00002.html>
> 
> To reach the 10-day testing migration interval, we'd need to have a package
> ready by this Saturday. Since I'm busy tomorrow and on Saturday, I fear that I
> can't upload an updated package.
> 
> Do you think you can make a new upstream release by that time? That's a
> precondition to get an updated Debian package in.
> 
> CC'ing debian-devel-games: Anyone of you who has the time to jump in?
> 
> Cheers,
>   Stefan.

On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 19:31 +0200, Stefan Potyra wrote:
> I fear, that we won't hit the deadline, see
> <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/09/msg00002.html>

Unfortunately Liviu seems to be the only person right now who could do a
new upstream version. I don't know if he can do this that fast. All the
uptdates are available, but I have no idea what exactly needs to be
done.

It's a shame I had so many other urgent things to do in the past weeks.

Basically there hasn't been much change. One or two minor fixes and a
lot of new maps and events without any influence on the coding.

Liviu, do you see any chance to still meet the deadline?

Onsemeliot

Hi Onsemeliot,

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:17:28PM +0200, Onsemeliot wrote:
> Hi Stefan, hi developers list people,
> 
> I hope we are ńot moving to slowly.
> 
> We decided to postpone our argument about car textures and names for the
> moment and go for a new release just with all the new maps and events
> using the same car textures and names we had last time:
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/discussion/527953/thread/1d0f3cb6/
> 
> Stefan, do you still think you will be able to do a Debian package in
> time for the Jessie freeze?

I fear, that we won't hit the deadline, see
<https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/09/msg00002.html>

To reach the 10-day testing migration interval, we'd need to have a package
ready by this Saturday. Since I'm busy tomorrow and on Saturday, I fear that I
can't upload an updated package.

Do you think you can make a new upstream release by that time? That's a
precondition to get an updated Debian package in.

CC'ing debian-devel-games: Anyone of you who has the time to jump in?

Cheers,
  Stefan.

Hi Stefan, hi developers list people,

I hope we are ńot moving to slowly.

We decided to postpone our argument about car textures and names for the
moment and go for a new release just with all the new maps and events
using the same car textures and names we had last time:

https://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/discussion/527953/thread/1d0f3cb6/

Stefan, do you still think you will be able to do a Debian package in
time for the Jessie freeze?

Best,
Onsemeliot

Sorry, for bothering you. The login didn't work. So there is nothing
wrong with the discussion board on Sourceforge ...

On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 12:22 +0200, Onsemeliot wrote:
> Do you know of any reason why the Trigger Rally Sourceforge discussion
> is down right now? Is this related to issues on Sourceforge or did
> anyone of us take it down for some reason?
> 
> We tried to put together a new version for the next Debian release, but
> the discussion for organising it is cut off at the moment ...
> 
> Best
> Franz
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2014-05-13 at 22:38 +0200, Onsemeliot wrote:
> > Hi, friends of Trigger Rally!
> > 
> > Today a C++ programmer indicated some interest in helping out with the
> > further development of Trigger Rally:
> > 
> > https://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/discussion/527953/thread/1b76052c/#086f
> > 
> > Please let me know your thoughts on his questions!
> > 
> > Best
> > Onsemeliot
> > 
> > 
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Do you know of any reason why the Trigger Rally Sourceforge discussion
is down right now? Is this related to issues on Sourceforge or did
anyone of us take it down for some reason?

We tried to put together a new version for the next Debian release, but
the discussion for organising it is cut off at the moment ...

Best
Franz

On Tue, 2014-05-13 at 22:38 +0200, Onsemeliot wrote:
> Hi, friends of Trigger Rally!
> 
> Today a C++ programmer indicated some interest in helping out with the
> further development of Trigger Rally:
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/discussion/527953/thread/1b76052c/#086f
> 
> Please let me know your thoughts on his questions!
> 
> Best
> Onsemeliot
> 
> 
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Hi, friends of Trigger Rally!

Today a C++ programmer indicated some interest in helping out with the
further development of Trigger Rally:

https://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/discussion/527953/thread/1b76052c/#086f

Please let me know your thoughts on his questions!

Best
Onsemeliot

Hi, friends of Trigger Rally!

Today a C++ programmer indicated some interest in helping out with the
further development of Trigger Rally:

https://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/discussion/527953/thread/1b76052c/#086f

Please let me know your thoughts on his questions!

Best
Onsemeliot

Liviu Andronic wrote on the Trigger Rally SouceForge discussion board:

> Unfortunately we're as far from a new release as we were about a year
ago. The sticky point is r88: New car textures, including noise texture
for .svg tire pattern. As it stands, there is no consensus in our small
community on the name and texture changes (and I'm not the only one who
is not quite happy with some of the changes). If some compromise were
reached on this (e.g. choose better name replacements and provide a
user-configurable option to revert to old names and textures), then I
could fairly easily organize a new release and request for a version
bump in Debian.

https://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/code/88/

Since I really would like to see the new Trigger Rally additions into
common repositories I want to solve this disagreement fast. As far as I
got it the main concern is the realism of the new names and textures
(brand logos). I hope nobody insists on keeping explicitly protected
brand names and logos if we can get something similar enough. Do I get
that right?

This can't be very hard to resolve since for sure qubodub doesn't insist
on specific logos or names. In my view our disagreement should be easily
solvable with some new name suggestions and some altered textures which
might get closer to what some company brands actually look like.

Liviu, is there something in particular you would want a close proximity
to? I could easily do fake brand logos looking quite similar to real
ones without getting close enough to any specific brand to cause actual
legal problems.

Do you have any suggestions for car names?

* Mitsubishi Evo (Tex Evaluate Pi)
* Seat Cordoba (Rotor Cordon TRI)
* Ford Focus (Iron Fox Mark II)

Please try to help me solving this little detail. It would be a shame to
get completely stuck with this - especially because we are just so few
people...

Best
Onsemeliot

Hi,

On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 05:33:06PM +0200, Onsemeliot wrote:
> Hi friends of Trigger Rally,
> 
> the discussion board on sourceforge seems to be dead finally. About two
> weeks ago I posted my most recent events and single race maps, but I
> didn't get any feedback yet:
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/p/trigger-rally/discussion/527953/thread/4e4d5b62/
> 
> I'm not sure if all of you are on holidays, but I would love to see a
> new version of Trigger Rally at least in Debain Jessie. For this purpose
> I contacted Stefan Potyra already. He confirmed to be willing to prepare
> a new version for Debain if everyone on this mailing list is happy with
> that.

Just to clarify:

I still think that I have upstream svn commit rights, and I'm happy to
commit stuff there if there's consensus about the things to commit
on this ML (and there's nobody else to do it).

Of course I'm also happy to prepare a new Debian version if requested.
However I'd really love to have a new upstream release instead of taking a
svn snapshot. I cannot help with that though.

Btw.: I have heard back from Liviu last but one week... so... ;)

Cheers,
  Stefan.

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