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From: Mrtin J. G. <mar...@ar...> - 2005-10-07 13:52:40
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Sorry I=B4m no TkDesk coder, but a user. After update from Suse 9.0 (where TkDesk 2.0 worked 99.9%) to Suse 9.3 I built TkDesk 2.0 again. The compile worked after telling the ld about libitcl3.3.so But ./testdrive gives a segmentation fault after/while the splash screen shows up. Help! I don=B4t want to play with that bloated BS named Konqueror or Nautilus etc. (I need to do work with my box!) - Resist Linux microsoftification! |
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From: Sean W. <yo...@et...> - 2005-07-01 21:08:00
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Good to know someone is still out there. I'm thinking that just about any direction is a good one at this point. -Sean On Jun 30, 2005, at 11:14 PM, tkd...@li... wrote: > Send TkDesk-code mailing list submissions to > tkd...@li... > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tkdesk-code > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tkd...@li... > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tkd...@li... > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of TkDesk-code digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. tkdesk on cygwin/X and a small patch (Doug VanLeuven) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:05:22 -0700 > From: Doug VanLeuven <ro...@so...> > To: tkd...@li... > Subject: tkdesk on cygwin/X and a small patch > > Hi, > Been a year since any posts. Ping. > > My goal is to offer tkdesk for cygwin/X as a static package that > includes > X based tcl/tk libs. I've been using this on my machine for a couple > weeks now > without any issues. > > I've got tcl/tk 8.4.11, itcl 3.3, and BLT 2.4z compiled as pure unix > static > libs. This is because no on maintains the X tcl/tk for cygwin/X > because of > issues with the cygwin maintainer and his maintenence of a windows > tcl/tk > for use with gdb insight. I don't want to step into that. > > I'll need to re-add the static code from the older tkdesk. I tried to > use > the supplied tcl/tk, but the windows based tcl/tk implements the > registry > differently and tkdesk usage of the registry for default look & feel > didn't > quite work right. For instance, setting a default scrollbar width in > the > registry didn't work. Each scollbar would need to be set using > "pathname > command". There are other complications as well. > > It's not on your wish list, but tkdesk really needs extended acl > capability to > be useful on most modern file systems, including cygwin on ntfs. I'll > be > adding that capability for myself and would like to contribute it > upstream. > My thinking now is that will be another itcl class. Or maybe someone > already did this? > > It always bothered me that the vertical scrollbars sometimes wouldn't > disappear > when in dynamic scrollbar mode. Here's a simple patch that fixes that. > > Regards, Doug > > --- dsk_Listbox.tcl.orig 2005-06-30 16:13:16.784000000 -0700 > +++ dsk_Listbox.tcl 2005-06-30 16:24:27.862125000 -0700 > @@ -724,8 +724,7 @@ > if !$sb_packed { > pack forget $frame.rframe > pack $frame.sb -side left -padx $pad -fill y > - pack $frame.corner -in $frame.bframe -side $sbside > -fill y \ > - -before $frame.hsb > + pack $frame.corner -in $frame.bframe -side $sbside > -fill y > raise $frame.corner > set sb_packed 1 > } > @@ -737,8 +736,7 @@ > if !$sb_packed { > pack forget $frame.rframe > pack $frame.sb -side left -padx $pad -fill y > - pack $frame.corner -in $frame.bframe -side $sbside > -fill y \ > - -before $frame.hsb > + pack $frame.corner -in $frame.bframe -side $sbside > -fill y > raise $frame.corner > set sb_packed 1 > } > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > TkDesk-code mailing list > TkD...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tkdesk-code > > > End of TkDesk-code Digest > |
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From: Doug V. <ro...@so...> - 2005-07-01 00:05:43
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Hi,
Been a year since any posts. Ping.
My goal is to offer tkdesk for cygwin/X as a static package that includes
X based tcl/tk libs. I've been using this on my machine for a couple weeks now
without any issues.
I've got tcl/tk 8.4.11, itcl 3.3, and BLT 2.4z compiled as pure unix static
libs. This is because no on maintains the X tcl/tk for cygwin/X because of
issues with the cygwin maintainer and his maintenence of a windows tcl/tk
for use with gdb insight. I don't want to step into that.
I'll need to re-add the static code from the older tkdesk. I tried to use
the supplied tcl/tk, but the windows based tcl/tk implements the registry
differently and tkdesk usage of the registry for default look & feel didn't
quite work right. For instance, setting a default scrollbar width in the
registry didn't work. Each scollbar would need to be set using "pathname
command". There are other complications as well.
It's not on your wish list, but tkdesk really needs extended acl capability to
be useful on most modern file systems, including cygwin on ntfs. I'll be
adding that capability for myself and would like to contribute it upstream.
My thinking now is that will be another itcl class. Or maybe someone
already did this?
It always bothered me that the vertical scrollbars sometimes wouldn't disappear
when in dynamic scrollbar mode. Here's a simple patch that fixes that.
Regards, Doug
--- dsk_Listbox.tcl.orig 2005-06-30 16:13:16.784000000 -0700
+++ dsk_Listbox.tcl 2005-06-30 16:24:27.862125000 -0700
@@ -724,8 +724,7 @@
if !$sb_packed {
pack forget $frame.rframe
pack $frame.sb -side left -padx $pad -fill y
- pack $frame.corner -in $frame.bframe -side $sbside -fill y \
- -before $frame.hsb
+ pack $frame.corner -in $frame.bframe -side $sbside -fill y
raise $frame.corner
set sb_packed 1
}
@@ -737,8 +736,7 @@
if !$sb_packed {
pack forget $frame.rframe
pack $frame.sb -side left -padx $pad -fill y
- pack $frame.corner -in $frame.bframe -side $sbside -fill y \
- -before $frame.hsb
+ pack $frame.corner -in $frame.bframe -side $sbside -fill y
raise $frame.corner
set sb_packed 1
}
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From: <aku...@sh...> - 2004-08-20 06:06:20
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From: Gavin H. <gh...@su...> - 2004-05-11 07:36:53
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=2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 11 May 2004 07:30, you wrote: > Gavin Henry wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > I have had a request to build an RPM for tkdesk by one of my kind reade= rs > > at http://FedoraNEWS.org > > > > I am http://FedoraNEWS.ORG/ghenry > > > > I have an initial RPM spec file ready, that will be complete as soon as= I > > can sort out this build error. > > Cool! No problems. Would you like the final RPM? > > > Can you help? > > Hope so. > > > I get: > > > > gcc -o tkdesksh \ > > tkAppInit.o libdesk/libdesk.a netscape-remote/libnetscape.a \ > > blt/libBLT.a -L/usr/lib -ltk8.4 -L/usr/lib -ltcl8.4 > > -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -ldl -lieee -lm > > > > blt/libBLT.a(bltUnixPipe.o)(.text+0x87): In function `CreateTempFile': > > : warning: the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp' > > > > tkAppInit.o(.text+0xe7): In function `Tcl_AppInit': > > : undefined reference to `Itcl_Init' > > > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > > make: *** [shell] Error 1 > > > > This is after running a standard ./configure with no options, then make. > > > > Thanks. > > > > P.S. This is Fedora Test3, with a 2.6.6 kernel, Athlon 2000XP and tk > > 8.4.5 > > First of all, if you are using Tcl/Tk 8.4, you must have BLT 2.4z and > you must use the --with-blt configure option: > > ./configure --with-blt=3D/usr/lib > > The next release of TkDesk will do a better job of finding BLT. OK, will try. > > More specific to your error, you do not appear to be linking against > any Itcl library. Not sure how you managed to get it configured like > that. That's odd. TkDesk requires Itcl. Is Itcl 3.2 available on > Fedora? What did the summary at the end of the ./configure look like? > > Chris I will post this later today. =2D --=20 Kind Regards, Gavin Henry. Managing Director. T +44 (0) 1224 587369 M +44 (0) 7930 323266 =46 +44 (0) 1224 742001 E gh...@su... Open Source. Open Solutions. http://www.suretecsystems.com/ =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAoIKweWseh9tzvqgRAm1hAKCFgzJ4nIv7bil6lKKozSc5ppuoaQCgoZ6p d26CN8cJqjhFh1KrfTLd56o=3D =3DWdKb =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: J. C. C. <jc...@zn...> - 2004-05-11 06:30:20
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Gavin Henry wrote: > Dear all, > > I have had a request to build an RPM for tkdesk by one of my kind readers at > http://FedoraNEWS.org > > I am http://FedoraNEWS.ORG/ghenry > > I have an initial RPM spec file ready, that will be complete as soon as I can > sort out this build error. Cool! > > Can you help? Hope so. > > I get: > > gcc -o tkdesksh \ > tkAppInit.o libdesk/libdesk.a netscape-remote/libnetscape.a \ > blt/libBLT.a -L/usr/lib -ltk8.4 -L/usr/lib -ltcl8.4 -L/usr/X11R6/lib > -lX11 -ldl -lieee -lm > blt/libBLT.a(bltUnixPipe.o)(.text+0x87): In function `CreateTempFile': > : warning: the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp' > tkAppInit.o(.text+0xe7): In function `Tcl_AppInit': > : undefined reference to `Itcl_Init' > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make: *** [shell] Error 1 > > This is after running a standard ./configure with no options, then make. > > Thanks. > > P.S. This is Fedora Test3, with a 2.6.6 kernel, Athlon 2000XP and tk 8.4.5 > First of all, if you are using Tcl/Tk 8.4, you must have BLT 2.4z and you must use the --with-blt configure option: ./configure --with-blt=/usr/lib The next release of TkDesk will do a better job of finding BLT. More specific to your error, you do not appear to be linking against any Itcl library. Not sure how you managed to get it configured like that. That's odd. TkDesk requires Itcl. Is Itcl 3.2 available on Fedora? What did the summary at the end of the ./configure look like? Chris |
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From: Gavin H. <gh...@su...> - 2004-05-10 21:46:09
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=2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, I have had a request to build an RPM for tkdesk by one of my kind readers a= t=20 http://FedoraNEWS.org I am http://FedoraNEWS.ORG/ghenry I have an initial RPM spec file ready, that will be complete as soon as I c= an=20 sort out this build error. Can you help? I get: gcc -o tkdesksh \ tkAppInit.o libdesk/libdesk.a netscape-remote/libnetscape.a \ blt/libBLT.a -L/usr/lib -ltk8.4 -L/usr/lib -ltcl8.4 -L/usr/X11R6/l= ib=20 =2D -lX11 -ldl -lieee -lm blt/libBLT.a(bltUnixPipe.o)(.text+0x87): In function `CreateTempFile': : warning: the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp' tkAppInit.o(.text+0xe7): In function `Tcl_AppInit': : undefined reference to `Itcl_Init' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [shell] Error 1 This is after running a standard ./configure with no options, then make. Thanks. P.S. This is Fedora Test3, with a 2.6.6 kernel, Athlon 2000XP and tk 8.4.5 =2D --=20 Kind Regards, Gavin Henry. Managing Director. T +44 (0) 1224 587369 M +44 (0) 7930 323266 =46 +44 (0) 1224 742001 E gh...@su... Open Source. Open Solutions. http://www.suretecsystems.com/ =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAn/f2eWseh9tzvqgRArh2AKCRnEAhy2L9PGRVtI4cbAU0Gf7zGgCfV7tE XPSBHjo9cxsTHKPZrV60l+0=3D =3DTn87 =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Sean W. <yo...@et...> - 2004-04-21 17:05:34
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One trick I use to get around that sort of thing for my Odie library is to only call Itcl through a wrapper function. I use odie::class and odie::body, which only call itcl after performing some sanity checks. (Like not re-creating an existing class.) My wrappers also do neat things like auto-document the classes and methods. I'm not sure how useful that would be at this stage in the game, but you never know. Sean Woods tkd...@li... wrote: >Send TkDesk-code mailing list submissions to > tkd...@li... > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tkdesk-code >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tkd...@li... > >You can reach the person managing the list at > tkd...@li... > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of TkDesk-code digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. TkDesk 2.0 patch 2 (J. Chris Coppick) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:07:47 -0700 >From: "J. Chris Coppick" <jc...@zn...> >To: TkDesk-Users <tkd...@li...>, > TkDesk-Code <tkd...@li...> >Subject: TkDesk 2.0 patch 2 > > >I'm releasing patch 2 for version 2.0. Here's the patch description: > > Some Linux distributions are using newer "unofficial" versions of > Incr Tcl (Itcl). Though TkDesk 2.0 works with the official Itcl 3.2.1 > release, these newer Itcl installations disable backwards > compatibility for some older Itcl syntax that TkDesk still requires. > The typical symptom of this problem is this error message when TkDesk > is started: > > Error in startup script: can't rename "itcl_class": command > doesn't exist... > > >The patch is available at: http://tkdesk.sf.net/patches.html > >It turns out that there was a lot of Itcl 3 compatibility work still >needed in TkDesk. Hopefully most, though probably not all, of those >issues are addressed in patch 2. It's a large patch. Large enough >that I was tempted to wait until TkDesk 2.1 to include it, but I know >many of you are getting burned by Itcl 3.3 "phantom" installations. > >I have tested patch 2 with Itcl 3.2.1 and it seems to work. > >I have tested patch 2 with Itcl "3.3" and I did get one segmentation fault, >but I could not replicate it. > >I have NOT tested patch 2 with any other Itcl versions. I think some of >you are using Itcl 3.0.1, for example. In theory, this patch is compatible >with any Itcl 3 release. That's the theory anyway... > >Anyone not using Itcl "3.3" doesn't necessarily have to install this patch, >but future patches will depend on it, not to mention future releases, so >you might as well start testing it now. :-) > > Chris > > > > > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >TkDesk-code mailing list >TkD...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tkdesk-code > > >End of TkDesk-code Digest > > |
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From: J. C. C. <jc...@zn...> - 2004-04-20 20:07:42
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I'm releasing patch 2 for version 2.0. Here's the patch description:
Some Linux distributions are using newer "unofficial" versions of
Incr Tcl (Itcl). Though TkDesk 2.0 works with the official Itcl 3.2.1
release, these newer Itcl installations disable backwards
compatibility for some older Itcl syntax that TkDesk still requires.
The typical symptom of this problem is this error message when TkDesk
is started:
Error in startup script: can't rename "itcl_class": command
doesn't exist...
The patch is available at: http://tkdesk.sf.net/patches.html
It turns out that there was a lot of Itcl 3 compatibility work still
needed in TkDesk. Hopefully most, though probably not all, of those
issues are addressed in patch 2. It's a large patch. Large enough
that I was tempted to wait until TkDesk 2.1 to include it, but I know
many of you are getting burned by Itcl 3.3 "phantom" installations.
I have tested patch 2 with Itcl 3.2.1 and it seems to work.
I have tested patch 2 with Itcl "3.3" and I did get one segmentation fault,
but I could not replicate it.
I have NOT tested patch 2 with any other Itcl versions. I think some of
you are using Itcl 3.0.1, for example. In theory, this patch is compatible
with any Itcl 3 release. That's the theory anyway...
Anyone not using Itcl "3.3" doesn't necessarily have to install this patch,
but future patches will depend on it, not to mention future releases, so
you might as well start testing it now. :-)
Chris
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From: J. C. C. <jc...@zn...> - 2004-04-18 18:33:02
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For everyone whose having trouble with 2.0 on SuSE: It turns out that SuSE is using a version Itcl taken from the Itcl CVS repository, which is simultaneously cool and annoying. :-) I've downloaded the CVS version and managed to recreate the problem. No fix yet, but I'm working on it. Thank you for your patience. Chris |
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From: J. C. C. <jc...@zn...> - 2004-04-16 06:29:57
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TkDesk release 2.0, code name "Lazarus," is now available for download. http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/tkdesk/tkdesk-2.0.tar.gz?download Please keep in mind that the primary focus of this release was to provide Tcl/Tk 8.4 compatibility, as opposed to fixing bugs and adding features. If you have submitted bugs against release 1.2, do not be shocked if they have not been fixed. However, the overall goal of the 2.x set of releases will be to fix existing bugs, clean up the code, and generally prepare for major functionality improvements in later releases. That being said, there were some new features, fixes, etc., included with this release: Release 2.0 Highlights ~ * Tcl/Tk 8.4 compatibility ~ See the INSTALL file for detailed release requirements. ~ * Dropped support for Tcl/Tk 7.x. ~ * Mouse-wheel support ~ Most text boxes and the file listings are now mouse-wheel enabled. ~ The usage details haven't made it into the documentation yet, so ~ here's the quick summary: ~ o Your X11 server needs to be configured for mouse-wheel support. ~ o The mouse wheel scrolls 5 lines at a time by default ~ o Shift + the mouse wheel scrolls 1 line at a time ~ o Ctrl + the mouse wheel scrolls 1 page at a time ~ * Select two files, press a button, get a diff! ~ This works great in conjunction with tkDiff. The diff command used ~ can be configured in your .tkdesk/System file. The default "diff" ~ button (on the button bar) is a picture of two overlapped pages. ~ * Improved (hopefully) configure script ~ * New TkDesk logo There are no plans at this time to provide pre-compiled packages for this release. (Volunteers?) Please relate any problems (or successes!) installing this release to the tkdesk-users mailing list (tkd...@li...). It has been over three years since the last release of TkDesk. Rather than dwell on the reasons for the hiatus, suffice it to say that TkDesk has refused to die. This is evidenced not just from the almost continuous stream of emails reporting bugs and bitching about the lack of new releases... :-) but from the number of emails praising TkDesk as well. At a time when development of modern feature-full file managers is rampant, the fact that users continue to speak so highly of TkDesk is a credit to the original design and implementation, and a positive indicator of TkDesk's potential. We hope you find TkDesk useful, and should you be interesting in contributing to the project please visit the developers page for more information: http://tkdesk.sf.net/developers.html - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAf31lu35obsyuq1QRAvBcAKC2c3WUVeGwlbLW/aLm3S8pzB2HbwCguwZK HbsVToEFLaqFJQOuYBR9/dQ= =/amP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: J. C. C. <jc...@zn...> - 2004-04-13 01:45:16
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote: | g bevan-pritchard wrote: | |> seem to have successfully installed tcl8.0, tk8.0, and itcl3.0.1 but |> './testdrive' tells me, "interpreter does not support stubs-enabled |> extensions ..... seems tkdesk script is using an older version of |> tkdesksh' (1st time i've tried to put tkdesk on this system). | | | I thought I was the only person left using TkDesk. | | I've been able to keep it running up to version 1.1 here on my current | install of Slack 9.1, but have been looking for a replacement for the | inevitable time when it's totally outdated. | Hi Rinaldi, I replied to G. Bevan-Pritchard with some advice and a bit of news. I didn't copy the list though, because I planned an announcement for the very near future. Now I feel obligated to at least provide a teaser... J. Chris Coppick wrote: | | On a happier note, TkDesk 2.0 is hopefully only a few weeks away and it | will work with tcl/tk 8.4 and the latest version of Itcl. Patience is a | virtue, yes? :-) It's true. I am currently putting the finishing touches on TkDesk 2.0. It will likely go through a brief period of beta testing before I release it. Lest your heart leap from your chest in anticipation, please keep in mind that the changes are not major... yet. The changes more or less follow the roadmap included in the development section of the home page: http://tkdesk.sf.net. Still, better than nothing, I hope. I'll provide more details soon. Take care, Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAe0You35obsyuq1QRAjpAAKDW79C/Wn8m8sqzEv552C63lcps2QCfSGtA Dgm0r6wMJt3i7g78BJV7/wY= =Z1Ns -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Larry E. <lje...@co...> - 2003-07-29 23:31:51
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I've tried to look at the list archives, but they aren't available? What I'd like to do is to have the TkDesk editor display tab characters as 4 characters wide, instead of the default 8. I know how to change it so that it will use 4 spaces instead of a tab character, but tab characters in pre-existing files are still displayed as 8 wide. Is there a way to change this? I've read through the editor source, but I'm not familiar enough with Tcl, Tk, itcl, etc. to understand everything it's doing. Thanks, Larry |
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From: J. C. C. <jc...@zn...> - 2003-04-16 23:13:45
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sean Woods wrote: > Is anyone using this list. I've been subscribed for a month and I > haven't seen any traffic? > Unfortunately, I've been too busy to post the note that says I've been too busy to post the other notes I need to post. :-( Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+neOZu35obsyuq1QRApQ0AKC6M54ba9Cd0R5T7jyqoqdqTVjBYQCfSCPn 0xLj57HvBJnwhj7E1OS/+so= =/QU2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Sean W. <yo...@et...> - 2003-04-16 22:45:50
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Is anyone using this list. I've been subscribed for a month and I haven't seen any traffic? |
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From: Andy S. <sp...@be...> - 2002-02-17 06:47:58
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> Basically, N things suck, but since there's always N+1 things that > could suck, I'm trying to make the best of it. I hear that. It's bad all over :( > > In case you don't happen to remember me (no reason you should, really), I'm > > maintaining the FreeBSD port of TkDesk, and there were a couple of things I > > thought I'd run past you FYI. > > I not only remember you, but I've still got copies of our last > correspondence. Still using Exmh? :-) Sure, it still sucks less than anything else I've found for my particular set of criteria, prejudices & preferences :) > > Firstly, I snaffled a few ideas from people on the TkDesk list, and I thought > > that you might like to know that I successfully got TkDesk to compile & work > > in conjunction with Tcl/Tk 8.3, itcl 3.2 etc. (since Feb 2001). > > > > Secondly, I note that you're still at version 1.2 with additional patches, if > > you'd thinking of releasing 1.3 anytime soon I'd be happy to provide the > > necessary patches to make TkDesk run with an up-to-date Tcl/Tk, itcl & BLT. > > > > Perhaps rolling all the patches in would be a good excuse for a point release? > > > > There's people running TkDesk, judging by the fact that they email me when it > > breaks on FreeBSD for some reason :-) > > > > -- End of excerpt from Andy Sparrow > > I'm always interested in patches. Most people just send me bugs. My > TkDesk maintenance has, in a word, sucked. I had hoped to have a point > release out before the end of 2000, but here it is 2002 already... > I have done some work on it... CVS, new web site, etc., but nothing > you'd call immediately useful. Having recently been given the opportunity > to pursue other employment opportunities (cough, cough) I've had some more > time on my hands and I'm trying to get into a bug-fixing mode. Your patches > sound like they should go into any new release, so please send them. Sure, see below. > There's a nasty segv bug that has to be fixed before the next release, and > some install problems (perhaps your patches address those?). No, actually I've never noticed an install problem AFAIK... Perhaps that and the SEGV only happen with the CVS version? > Mostly, I'd > just like to get a new dist. out with the updated web-site, maintainer info, > and segv bugfix in it. Hopefully, that'll help build some momentum. > > In case you haven't seen the new site, it's tkdesk.sourceforge.net. Yup, I updated that in the ports information when I patched for itcl 3.2 (although not in 'pkg-descr', as someone just recently pointed out to me in private email). > There's new user and developer mailing lists has well. Perhaps you'd > like to subscribe to the developer's list? Actually, I think I will. I like TkDesk, but haven't used it much of late. However, I've just about had it up to here with the whole GNOME bloat-ware thing, and TkDesk is pretty functional, without being heavy. There are, however, a few things I'd like to see in it, and certainly a few local FreeBSD customisations I always meant to look at to make it sit more comfortably on that OS (like the PPP control thing etc.) > There's a whopping two of us > on there now. You can find the subscription info on the "Developers" page. > Matter of fact, I think I'll cc: this to the list... (Hi, Lester) > > By the way, I'm currently running TkDesk with tcl 8.3 and itcl 3.1, so > I'm curious to see what fixes you've had to make. Well, I can't claim any credit for them, although it's a while ago I'm pretty sure I lifted them directly from the TkDesk mailing list and frobbed them in... I'd credit the original author if I could find who they were... The patches for FreeBSD are contained in the /usr/ports/x11-fm/tkdesk/files directory, if you can't browse these locally you can use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-fm/tkdesk/files/ Here's a quick description of what they seem to be: patch-aa: Fixes to configure to add tcl 8.3/itcl 3.2 patch-ab: Fixes to Makefile (wish 8.3 shell specification) patch-ac: Fixes to update URLs in AppBar, use 'vipw' to edit passwd patch-ad: Fixes to Be-ish AppBar_Be patch-ae: Fixes to System for FreeBSD (du -k) patch-af: Fix to appbar.tcl patch-ag: Fix to delete.tcl patch-ah: Fix to tkdesk.main (D&D patch?) patch-ai: Fix to find.tcl (file selection patch?) patch-aj: Fxi to tixImgXpm.c So, only patch-aa, patch-ab, patch-ac & patch-aj aren't the "standard" patches, and patch-aa, patch-ab & 50% of patch-ac probably aren't of interest on non-BSD systems... I'm pretty sure that the tixImgXpm.c file is the interesting one from your perpective (e.g. for the itcl mods). > Anyway, thanks for the interest. Don't take two years to reply. :-) I won't :) I'll be out of touch for a while probably - I'm flying to upstate Nooo York tomorrow, and I'm not sure that they have internet there ;) Cheers, AS |
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From: J. C. C. <jc...@zn...> - 2002-02-17 05:55:10
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On Feb 15, at 23:15, Andy Sparrow mused about the following: > > Hey Chris, > > Haven't sent you an email for a few years, how you doing? :) Basically, N things suck, but since there's always N+1 things that could suck, I'm trying to make the best of it. > > In case you don't happen to remember me (no reason you should, really), I'm > maintaining the FreeBSD port of TkDesk, and there were a couple of things I > thought I'd run past you FYI. I not only remember you, but I've still got copies of our last correspondence. Still using Exmh? :-) > > Firstly, I snaffled a few ideas from people on the TkDesk list, and I thought > > that you might like to know that I successfully got TkDesk to compile & work > in conjunction with Tcl/Tk 8.3, itcl 3.2 etc. (since Feb 2001). > > Secondly, I note that you're still at version 1.2 with additional patches, if > > you'd thinking of releasing 1.3 anytime soon I'd be happy to provide the > necessary patches to make TkDesk run with an up-to-date Tcl/Tk, itcl & BLT. > > Perhaps rolling all the patches in would be a good excuse for a point release >? > > There's people running TkDesk, judging by the fact that they email me when it > > breaks on FreeBSD for some reason :-) > > > -- End of excerpt from Andy Sparrow I'm always interested in patches. Most people just send me bugs. My TkDesk maintenance has, in a word, sucked. I had hoped to have a point release out before the end of 2000, but here it is 2002 already... I have done some work on it... CVS, new web site, etc., but nothing you'd call immediately useful. Having recently been given the opportunity to pursue other employment opportunities (cough, cough) I've had some more time on my hands and I'm trying to get into a bug-fixing mode. Your patches sound like they should go into any new release, so please send them. There's a nasty segv bug that has to be fixed before the next release, and some install problems (perhaps your patches address those?). Mostly, I'd just like to get a new dist. out with the updated web-site, maintainer info, and segv bugfix in it. Hopefully, that'll help build some momentum. In case you haven't seen the new site, it's tkdesk.sourceforge.net. There's new user and developer mailing lists has well. Perhaps you'd like to subscribe to the developer's list? There's a whopping two of us on there now. You can find the subscription info on the "Developers" page. Matter of fact, I think I'll cc: this to the list... (Hi, Lester) By the way, I'm currently running TkDesk with tcl 8.3 and itcl 3.1, so I'm curious to see what fixes you've had to make. Anyway, thanks for the interest. Don't take two years to reply. :-) Chris -- "Are you a philosopher? Where's your sponge?" -- (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods) |
