RE: [Tikiwiki-devel] the tikiwiki site

[Marc L. <ti...@ma...>]

Hi Nick,

A) DONE (great idea. Thanks!)

B) and C) I think it's too late for this time. Tikiwiki.org will be =
stable
again before we'd have time to implement this properly. Mose and Redflo =
are
working around the clock on this.

For the next time, we need to decide if we want this. Moving to ADOdb is
major and it's expected to have a bumpy road.

The road between previous versions was much smoother because mostly only =
new
features were buggy. Basically, we don't know yet if the transition =
between
1.8 and 1.9 will justify B and C. We'll see at that time.

I dunno what happened to xref

Thanks!!!!!

M ;-)

--
Marc Laporte
http://tikiwiki.org/UserPagemarclaporte


-----Original Message-----
From: tik...@li...
[mailto:tik...@li...] On Behalf Of Nick
Woolley
Sent: October 16, 2003 7:21 PM
To: tik...@li...
Subject: Re: [Tikiwiki-devel] the tikiwiki site

On Thursday 16 Oct 2003 19:11, Marc Laporte wrote:
> Hi Nick!
>
> The answer is to have PDF documentation.

It is an answer if you are looking for a simple explanation of how to do =
X,=20
and don't mind downloading and hunting through 5MB of PDF.

It is not if you want to know if anyone has noticed a problem with Y.  =
Nor
is=20
it an answer if the documentaion doesn't skims over what you want to =
know=20
without going into much detail (which it does in quite a few places).  =
At=20
this point, I normally search the relevant forums and the wiki.  =
(Admittedly

this is doable with the site at the moment.)

It also doesn't tackle the case where a customer has not have the =
patience
to=20
understand why the tikiwiki site plus documentation looks like dogfood, =
who=20
may take it to mean that tikiwiki really is a load of old dogfood.  Thus =
I=20
may end up with egg on my face.

Myself, I can be patient, and I'm sure it will be back and working again
soon,=20
but my point is that this confusion is easily avoidable.  What I suggest =
is:

a) make it clear on the tikiwiki site that "THIS IS UNDER TEST, YOU MAY=20
EXPERIENCE PROBLEMS - PLEASE INFORM US OF ERRORS - NORMAL SERVICE WILL =
BE=20
RESUMED ASAP"

b) as was suggested already, keep a copy of the stable tiki version =
around
for=20
those of us wanting to do research into solving tiki niggles.  Don't =
force
us=20
to test 1.8 when we just want a quick answer.

c) Have tiki installations link to the stable version of the docs.

Thanks,

Nick

ps what happened to the browsable API docs at http://tikiwiki.org/xref?  =
If=20
you provide this you may get better quality contributions from your
community=20
of users/hackers.




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