[Themis-dev] from Kevin throug Fredrik

[Fredrik <fr...@mo...>]

Hey, I wonder if you might be willing to copy the email below and repost
it on the
mailing list?  The mailing list is rejecting my messages for some reason.
Kevin
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To Fredrik (who has been doing some work on the UI), to Michael who wants to
work on the UI soon??, and to the rest of the Themis devs who have a lot
of work
put into the project....

I contacted Remi Grumeau about some help with the UI.

In case you were not aware, Remi did some mockups for a possible UI for a
Haiku
browser project called Net++ that was supposed to just focus on a better UI,
while using Gecko for the core stuff.  According to a post he made, the
project
never really got started apart from his mockups.

You can see his Net++ mockups here:
http://beosfrance.com/muckups/Net++/
you can also check out his flash demo in the flash subfolder
He has also done mockups for other stuff:
http://beosfrance.com/muckups/

Anyways, I noticed that there was a little uncertainty about what to do
with the
UI.  What design/layout to use... do we just end up copying code from
NetPositive.  Although Remi cannot code C++, perhaps you all might be
interested
in working with him on the UI design?  I'm not saying his ideas are the
best (they
may be too complicated?),
but I think he
might be able to help.
If Fredrik and Michael and any others working on the UI feel like working
with
Remi... maybe you all can come up with a design that isn't just a copy of
other
browsers (like Firefox) and maybe it means you wouldn't have to worry as much
about copying code from NetPositive.

If Remi can ideed help, maybe it would take a little pressure off of the
coding
of the UI...
* perhaps Remi can add additional creativity to the UI design...
* maybe it would mean no longer copying Firefox's design/layout ... instead
maybe we can think about new things and a more Haiku-like design (this is a
Haiku native app for a completely new browser system after all :) )

Either, I just wanted to run things by you.  Although Remi is not a coder, I
wonder if you would like him to come in and help out with the UI design
(meaning
work together with him on the design)?

As a side note, I kinda realize that finalizing a UI may or may not be kinda
premature at this point... as
the major issues are getting coding
done on the core parsing and rendering and other aspects of the browser. 
Then
again, maybe this would just mean having a great UI once the underlying
stuff is
nearly ready (which is nice :) ), so what do you all think?

I'll probably tell him I posted this message and let him decide if he
wants to
go ahead and post here or wait for a response. :)

Fredriks responce :) :
I'm more of an C++/C# coder than an UI designer so if there was a UI plan
that would be good to have am follow. About copy code it's only function
and not how it's looks :).
So yes but I think that all of us need to work with him :).

By the way could we have a branch or some thing I have some stuff that are
not in svn so I would be glad if I had access to commit. In a week I have
abut (2*30)*5  = 5 hours to work on themis as I have a small Dell x300 and
do moste of this work to and from work.