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[MACTCL] Making python use updated Tk framework

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

Would anyone know how to make python use a new Tk framework that I just installed? I'm using Tkinter and Python 2.7. 

Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

My hope is to make Tk 8.6.5 run under Mac OS 10.4. I know it is old, but I really like this OS. Using the ./configure method did make this hope very close to coming true. An issue with sqllite is what stopped me. There is a patch online that fixes the problem but I haven't had time to test it out yet. 

On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Gerald W. Lester wrote:

> Building from source is an option if you want.
> 
> My first comment was why not use AS instead of going through the issues you 
> were having doing the build.
> 
> I just attempted to clarify what you can do under the various AS agreements.
> 
> On 6/14/16 10:21 AM, Programmingkid wrote:
>> I guess it would help if they defined "production use". Building from source code would allow someone to avoid Active's license.
>> 
>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Gerald W. Lester wrote:
>> 
>>> On 6/14/16 9:55 AM, Programmingkid wrote:
>>>> I don't like the fact that they state the Community Edition is "Not for production use".
>>>> 
>>>> See http://www.activestate.com/activetcl under "Community Edition".
>>>> 
>>>> As a programmer this means I can't use their software to develop more software.
>>> No, that means you can not install the ActiveState "Community Edition" in a
>>> company's production system or redistribute components from it to your
>>> customers.
>>> 
>>> You are free to use it to run your own personal applications or others. You
>>> are free to use it to develop any applications (e.g. Open Source that you
>>> point out that people need their own copy of Tcl/Tk to run).
>>> 
>>> If you are developer working on commercial software, either for sale or for
>>> use inside of your own company, then you likely should get the Tcl Dev Kit
>>> (TDK) (i.e. pop for the $345) -- then you can distribute your application as
>>> a single executable if you chose.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>> | Gerald W. Lester                                                       |
>>> |"The man who fights for his ideals is the man who is alive." - Cervantes|
>>> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Gerald W. L. <ger...@gm...>]

Building from source is an option if you want.

My first comment was why not use AS instead of going through the issues you 
were having doing the build.

I just attempted to clarify what you can do under the various AS agreements.

On 6/14/16 10:21 AM, Programmingkid wrote:
> I guess it would help if they defined "production use". Building from source code would allow someone to avoid Active's license.
>
> On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Gerald W. Lester wrote:
>
>> On 6/14/16 9:55 AM, Programmingkid wrote:
>>> I don't like the fact that they state the Community Edition is "Not for production use".
>>>
>>> See http://www.activestate.com/activetcl under "Community Edition".
>>>
>>> As a programmer this means I can't use their software to develop more software.
>> No, that means you can not install the ActiveState "Community Edition" in a
>> company's production system or redistribute components from it to your
>> customers.
>>
>> You are free to use it to run your own personal applications or others. You
>> are free to use it to develop any applications (e.g. Open Source that you
>> point out that people need their own copy of Tcl/Tk to run).
>>
>> If you are developer working on commercial software, either for sale or for
>> use inside of your own company, then you likely should get the Tcl Dev Kit
>> (TDK) (i.e. pop for the $345) -- then you can distribute your application as
>> a single executable if you chose.
>>
>> -- 
>> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>> | Gerald W. Lester                                                       |
>> |"The man who fights for his ideals is the man who is alive." - Cervantes|
>> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic
>> patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are
>> consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow,
>> J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity
>> planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e
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| Gerald W. Lester                                                       |
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Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Tim J. <ti...@to...>]

Nope - it just means that they want you to pay for the commercial edition if you're building commercial software.  Basically, if you make money, they should make money.

People have been using the "Community Edition" and building their own TCL/TK from the sources to create software for years and years.  Don't be frightened by their read me - which is designed to get you to buy their commercial package.

Tim

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> I don't like the fact that they state the Community Edition is "Not for production use". 
> 
> See http://www.activestate.com/activetcl under "Community Edition". 
> 
> As a programmer this means I can't use their software to develop more software. 
> 
> 
> On Jun 5, 2016, at 2:56 PM, gerald.lester wrote:
> 
>> In what way?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> 
>> Date: 6/5/16 12:34 (GMT-06:00) 
>> To: "gerald.lester" <ger...@gm...> 
>> Cc: tc...@li... 
>> Subject: Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8 
>> 
>> They seem kind of questionable to me.
>> 
>> On Jun 5, 2016, at 1:32 PM, gerald.lester wrote:
>> 
>>> Why not just download it from ActiveState
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> 
>>> Date: 6/5/16 12:07 (GMT-06:00) 
>>> To: tc...@li... 
>>> Subject: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8 
>>> 
>>> When I try to build Tk on Mac OS 10.6.8 using the xcodeproj file, I see these error messages:
>>> 
>>> Check dependencies
>>> 
>>> [WARN]The file “Tk-Release.xcconfig” couldn’t be opened because there is no such file. (/Users/john/Desktop/tk/macosx/Tk-Release.xcconfig)
>>> 
>>> The reason for this message is because the path is incorrect. The folder tk does not exist. There is a tk8.6.5 folder.
>>> 
>>> I also see this error message:
>>> 
>>> xcrun: error: no utility name specified
>>> 
>>> usage: 
>>> xcrun [-verbose] [-no-cache] [-kill-cache] [-sdk <sdkroot>] [-log] [-run] <utility> [utility argument(s) ...]
>>> xcrun [-verbose] [-no-cache] [-kill-cache] [-sdk <sdkroot>] -find <utility> 
>>> <tool> [tool arguments ...]
>>> gnumake: *** empty string invalid as file name.  Stop.
>>> Done
>>> Command /bin/sh failed with exit code 2
>>> 
>>> My version of the make command is 3.81. 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, 
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>> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MACTCL] Mac OS X building directions needs to be updated

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

If you get a chance, could you post your command-line arguments used to build Tk? I might be able to see what I am doing wrong when I use the README file's directions.

On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:

> I always target the current OS. 
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> wrote:
>> 
>> What version(s) of Mac OS X have you successfully built TK on?
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
>>> 
>>> These instructions work just fine and do not need to be changed, your issues notwithstanding. 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:02 AM, Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The current directions from the Mac OS X README file for TK 8.6.5 needs to be changed from using "make -C ..." to "configure && make && sudo make install". The make -C approach does not work. The configure way does successfully make the Tk framework and is much easier to use. My tests were conducted on Mac OS 10.6.8 using GCC 4.2.1.
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic
>>>> patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are 
>>>> consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, 
>>>> J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity 
>>>> planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e
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>> 
> 

Re: [MACTCL] Mac OS X building directions needs to be updated

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

I always target the current OS. 

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> What version(s) of Mac OS X have you successfully built TK on?
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
>> 
>> These instructions work just fine and do not need to be changed, your issues notwithstanding. 
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:02 AM, Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The current directions from the Mac OS X README file for TK 8.6.5 needs to be changed from using "make -C ..." to "configure && make && sudo make install". The make -C approach does not work. The configure way does successfully make the Tk framework and is much easier to use. My tests were conducted on Mac OS 10.6.8 using GCC 4.2.1.
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic
>>> patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are 
>>> consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, 
>>> J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity 
>>> planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Tcl-mac mailing list
>>> tc...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac
> 

Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

I guess it would help if they defined "production use". Building from source code would allow someone to avoid Active's license.

On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Gerald W. Lester wrote:

> On 6/14/16 9:55 AM, Programmingkid wrote:
>> I don't like the fact that they state the Community Edition is "Not for production use".
>> 
>> See http://www.activestate.com/activetcl under "Community Edition".
>> 
>> As a programmer this means I can't use their software to develop more software.
> No, that means you can not install the ActiveState "Community Edition" in a 
> company's production system or redistribute components from it to your 
> customers.
> 
> You are free to use it to run your own personal applications or others. You 
> are free to use it to develop any applications (e.g. Open Source that you 
> point out that people need their own copy of Tcl/Tk to run).
> 
> If you are developer working on commercial software, either for sale or for 
> use inside of your own company, then you likely should get the Tcl Dev Kit 
> (TDK) (i.e. pop for the $345) -- then you can distribute your application as 
> a single executable if you chose.
> 
> -- 
> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> | Gerald W. Lester                                                       |
> |"The man who fights for his ideals is the man who is alive." - Cervantes|
> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic
> patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are 
> consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, 
> J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity 
> planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [MACTCL] Mac OS X building directions needs to be updated

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

What version(s) of Mac OS X have you successfully built TK on?

On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:

> These instructions work just fine and do not need to be changed, your issues notwithstanding. 
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:02 AM, Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> wrote:
>> 
>> The current directions from the Mac OS X README file for TK 8.6.5 needs to be changed from using "make -C ..." to "configure && make && sudo make install". The make -C approach does not work. The configure way does successfully make the Tk framework and is much easier to use. My tests were conducted on Mac OS 10.6.8 using GCC 4.2.1.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic
>> patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are 
>> consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, 
>> J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity 
>> planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tcl-mac mailing list
>> tc...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac
> 

Re: [MACTCL] Mac OS X building directions needs to be updated

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

These instructions work just fine and do not need to be changed, your issues notwithstanding. 

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:02 AM, Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> The current directions from the Mac OS X README file for TK 8.6.5 needs to be changed from using "make -C ..." to "configure && make && sudo make install". The make -C approach does not work. The configure way does successfully make the Tk framework and is much easier to use. My tests were conducted on Mac OS 10.6.8 using GCC 4.2.1.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic
> patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are 
> consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, 
> J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity 
> planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e
> _______________________________________________
> Tcl-mac mailing list
> tc...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac

Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Gerald W. L. <ger...@gm...>]

On 6/14/16 9:55 AM, Programmingkid wrote:
> I don't like the fact that they state the Community Edition is "Not for production use".
>
> See http://www.activestate.com/activetcl under "Community Edition".
>
> As a programmer this means I can't use their software to develop more software.
No, that means you can not install the ActiveState "Community Edition" in a 
company's production system or redistribute components from it to your 
customers.

You are free to use it to run your own personal applications or others. You 
are free to use it to develop any applications (e.g. Open Source that you 
point out that people need their own copy of Tcl/Tk to run).

If you are developer working on commercial software, either for sale or for 
use inside of your own company, then you likely should get the Tcl Dev Kit 
(TDK) (i.e. pop for the $345) -- then you can distribute your application as 
a single executable if you chose.

-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Gerald W. Lester                                                       |
|"The man who fights for his ideals is the man who is alive." - Cervantes|
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+

[MACTCL] Mac OS X building directions needs to be updated

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

The current directions from the Mac OS X README file for TK 8.6.5 needs to be changed from using "make -C ..." to "configure && make && sudo make install". The make -C approach does not work. The configure way does successfully make the Tk framework and is much easier to use. My tests were conducted on Mac OS 10.6.8 using GCC 4.2.1.

Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

I don't like the fact that they state the Community Edition is "Not for production use". 

See http://www.activestate.com/activetcl under "Community Edition". 

As a programmer this means I can't use their software to develop more software. 


On Jun 5, 2016, at 2:56 PM, gerald.lester wrote:

> In what way?
> 
> 
> 
> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> 
> Date: 6/5/16 12:34 (GMT-06:00) 
> To: "gerald.lester" <ger...@gm...> 
> Cc: tc...@li... 
> Subject: Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8 
> 
> They seem kind of questionable to me.
> 
> On Jun 5, 2016, at 1:32 PM, gerald.lester wrote:
> 
> > Why not just download it from ActiveState
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
> > 
> > 
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> 
> > Date: 6/5/16 12:07 (GMT-06:00) 
> > To: tc...@li... 
> > Subject: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8 
> > 
> > When I try to build Tk on Mac OS 10.6.8 using the xcodeproj file, I see these error messages:
> > 
> > Check dependencies
> > 
> > [WARN]The file “Tk-Release.xcconfig” couldn’t be opened because there is no such file. (/Users/john/Desktop/tk/macosx/Tk-Release.xcconfig)
> > 
> > The reason for this message is because the path is incorrect. The folder tk does not exist. There is a tk8.6.5 folder.
> > 
> > I also see this error message:
> > 
> > xcrun: error: no utility name specified
> > 
> > usage: 
> > xcrun [-verbose] [-no-cache] [-kill-cache] [-sdk <sdkroot>] [-log] [-run] <utility> [utility argument(s) ...]
> > xcrun [-verbose] [-no-cache] [-kill-cache] [-sdk <sdkroot>] -find <utility> 
> > <tool> [tool arguments ...]
> > gnumake: *** empty string invalid as file name.  Stop.
> > Done
> > Command /bin/sh failed with exit code 2
> > 
> > My version of the make command is 3.81. 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic
> > patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are 
> > consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, 
> > J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity 
> > planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e
> > _______________________________________________
> > Tcl-mac mailing list
> > tc...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac
> 

Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

On 6/5/16 7:13 PM, Programmingkid wrote:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective-C#Objective-C_2.0
> It was added in Mac OS 10.5. It does work on PowerPC.

Ok, corrected on that point. The 10.4 deployment target may be 
problematic, however.

-- 
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http://www.codebykevin.com
http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com

Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

On Jun 5, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:

> On 6/5/16 2:01 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
>> There may be other issues here, but the deployment target is a
>> showstopper right there: Tk 8.6.5 cannot be deployed on 10.4 as it is
>> built atop the Objective-C 2.0 runtime and thus requires (at a bare
>> minimum) 10.5.
> 
> Additionally, I don't believe the Objc-2.0 runtime supports PPC. That 
> may be an issue as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective-C#Objective-C_2.0
It was added in Mac OS 10.5. It does work on PowerPC.


> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic
> patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are 
> consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, 
> J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity 
> planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[gerald.lester <ger...@gm...>]

    
In what way?


Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5

-------- Original message --------
From: Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> 
Date: 6/5/16  12:34  (GMT-06:00) 
To: "gerald.lester" <ger...@gm...> 
Cc: tc...@li... 
Subject: Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8 

They seem kind of questionable to me.

On Jun 5, 2016, at 1:32 PM, gerald.lester wrote:

> Why not just download it from ActiveState
> 
> 
> 
> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> 
> Date: 6/5/16 12:07 (GMT-06:00) 
> To: tc...@li... 
> Subject: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8 
> 
> When I try to build Tk on Mac OS 10.6.8 using the xcodeproj file, I see these error messages:
> 
> Check dependencies
> 
> [WARN]The file “Tk-Release.xcconfig” couldn’t be opened because there is no such file. (/Users/john/Desktop/tk/macosx/Tk-Release.xcconfig)
> 
> The reason for this message is because the path is incorrect. The folder tk does not exist. There is a tk8.6.5 folder.
> 
> I also see this error message:
> 
> xcrun: error: no utility name specified
> 
> usage: 
> xcrun [-verbose] [-no-cache] [-kill-cache] [-sdk <sdkroot>] [-log] [-run] <utility> [utility argument(s) ...]
> xcrun [-verbose] [-no-cache] [-kill-cache] [-sdk <sdkroot>] -find <utility> 
> <tool> [tool arguments ...]
> gnumake: *** empty string invalid as file name.  Stop.
> Done
> Command /bin/sh failed with exit code 2
> 
> My version of the make command is 3.81. 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic
> patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are 
> consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, 
> J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity 
> planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e
> _______________________________________________
> Tcl-mac mailing list
> tc...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac

Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

On 6/5/16 2:01 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
> There may be other issues here, but the deployment target is a
> showstopper right there: Tk 8.6.5 cannot be deployed on 10.4 as it is
> built atop the Objective-C 2.0 runtime and thus requires (at a bare
> minimum) 10.5.

Additionally, I don't believe the Objc-2.0 runtime supports PPC. That 
may be an issue as well.

--Kevin

-- 
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Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com

Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

On 6/5/16 1:56 PM, Programmingkid wrote:
> export MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.4
> export ver="8.6.5"
> CFLAGS="-arch i386 -arch x86_64 -arch ppc -mmacosx-version-min=10.4"
> make -C tcl${ver}/macosx

There may be other issues here, but the deployment target is a 
showstopper right there: Tk 8.6.5 cannot be deployed on 10.4 as it is 
built atop the Objective-C 2.0 runtime and thus requires (at a bare 
minimum) 10.5.

--Kevin

-- 
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Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

I would like to add that I did try to build using the command line, but there were problems.

Here are the steps I took:

export MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.4
export ver="8.6.5"
CFLAGS="-arch i386 -arch x86_64 -arch ppc -mmacosx-version-min=10.4"
make -C tcl${ver}/macosx

This is the error message I saw:

checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables

When I remove the -arch ppc from the CFLAGS variable, building works, but I would like to support PowerPC still.

Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

They seem kind of questionable to me.

On Jun 5, 2016, at 1:32 PM, gerald.lester wrote:

> Why not just download it from ActiveState
> 
> 
> 
> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> 
> Date: 6/5/16 12:07 (GMT-06:00) 
> To: tc...@li... 
> Subject: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8 
> 
> When I try to build Tk on Mac OS 10.6.8 using the xcodeproj file, I see these error messages:
> 
> Check dependencies
> 
> [WARN]The file “Tk-Release.xcconfig” couldn’t be opened because there is no such file. (/Users/john/Desktop/tk/macosx/Tk-Release.xcconfig)
> 
> The reason for this message is because the path is incorrect. The folder tk does not exist. There is a tk8.6.5 folder.
> 
> I also see this error message:
> 
> xcrun: error: no utility name specified
> 
> usage: 
> xcrun [-verbose] [-no-cache] [-kill-cache] [-sdk <sdkroot>] [-log] [-run] <utility> [utility argument(s) ...]
> xcrun [-verbose] [-no-cache] [-kill-cache] [-sdk <sdkroot>] -find <utility> 
> <tool> [tool arguments ...]
> gnumake: *** empty string invalid as file name.  Stop.
> Done
> Command /bin/sh failed with exit code 2
> 
> My version of the make command is 3.81. 
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Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[gerald.lester <ger...@gm...>]

    
Why not just download it from ActiveState


Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5

-------- Original message --------
From: Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> 
Date: 6/5/16  12:07  (GMT-06:00) 
To: tc...@li... 
Subject: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8 

When I try to build Tk on Mac OS 10.6.8 using the xcodeproj file, I see these error messages:

Check dependencies

[WARN]The file “Tk-Release.xcconfig” couldn’t be opened because there is no such file. (/Users/john/Desktop/tk/macosx/Tk-Release.xcconfig)

The reason for this message is because the path is incorrect. The folder tk does not exist. There is a tk8.6.5 folder.

I also see this error message:

xcrun: error: no utility name specified

usage: 
xcrun [-verbose] [-no-cache] [-kill-cache] [-sdk <sdkroot>] [-log] [-run] <utility> [utility argument(s) ...]
xcrun [-verbose] [-no-cache] [-kill-cache] [-sdk <sdkroot>] -find <utility> 
<tool> [tool arguments ...]
gnumake: *** empty string invalid as file name.  Stop.
Done
Command /bin/sh failed with exit code 2

My version of the make command is 3.81. 
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consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, 
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Re: [MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

On 6/5/16 1:07 PM, Programmingkid wrote:
> When I try to build Tk on Mac OS 10.6.8 using the xcodeproj file, I see these error messages:
>
>
I don't build Tcl and Tk via Xcode, so I'm not very familiar with the 
error messages. You may have better luck with the command line. Try 
cd'ing to the top of the source treea and  running:

make -C tcl/macosx
make -C tk/macosx

Insert version numbers as required to correspond to the folder names.

Thanks,
Kevin

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Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com

[MACTCL] Cannot built Tk 8.6.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

When I try to build Tk on Mac OS 10.6.8 using the xcodeproj file, I see these error messages:

Check dependencies

[WARN]The file “Tk-Release.xcconfig” couldn’t be opened because there is no such file. (/Users/john/Desktop/tk/macosx/Tk-Release.xcconfig)

The reason for this message is because the path is incorrect. The folder tk does not exist. There is a tk8.6.5 folder.

I also see this error message:

xcrun: error: no utility name specified

usage: 
xcrun [-verbose] [-no-cache] [-kill-cache] [-sdk <sdkroot>] [-log] [-run] <utility> [utility argument(s) ...]
xcrun [-verbose] [-no-cache] [-kill-cache] [-sdk <sdkroot>] -find <utility> 
<tool> [tool arguments ...]
gnumake: *** empty string invalid as file name.  Stop.
Done
Command /bin/sh failed with exit code 2

My version of the make command is 3.81. 

Re: [MACTCL] TK 8.5.19 building problem on Mac OS 10.4

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

On May 18, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Alan Greenberger wrote:

> On 2016-05-18, Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> wrote:
>> 
>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Alan Greenberger wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2016-05-17, G 3 <pro...@gm...> wrote:
>>>> When I try to build Tk 8.5.19 on Mac OS 10.4.11, the build fails with
>>>> this message:
>>>> 
>>>> ln: ././Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish
>>>> Shell: No such file or directory
>>>> make[2]: *** [install-tk] Error 1
>>>> make[1]: *** [tk] Error 2
>>>> make: *** [develop] Error 2
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I was able to build 8.5.10 for OSX 10.4 .  See:
>>> 
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/comp.lang.tcl/tcl$2Ftk8.5$20on$20OSX10.4/comp.lang.tcl/MquAc2uK6Es/dhpPNsIbAQoJ
>> 
>> Thank you for the link. When using 8.5.10, do you see the X11 application show up when running a TK-based application? Did you ever try using --enable-aqua in the configure step?
> 
> Yes, the X11 version of TK works.  I have not tried an aqua version.

Since Mac OS 10.4 already includes TK 8.4, I just decided to use that. The only thing I am missing is the Themed TK widgets. 

Re: [MACTCL] TK 8.5.19 building problem on Mac OS 10.4

[Alan G. <al...@pt...>]

On 2016-05-18, Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> wrote:
>
> On May 17, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Alan Greenberger wrote:
>
>> On 2016-05-17, G 3 <pro...@gm...> wrote:
>>> When I try to build Tk 8.5.19 on Mac OS 10.4.11, the build fails with
>>> this message:
>>> 
>>> ln: ././Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish
>>> Shell: No such file or directory
>>> make[2]: *** [install-tk] Error 1
>>> make[1]: *** [tk] Error 2
>>> make: *** [develop] Error 2
>>> 
>>> Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
>>> 
>> 
>> I was able to build 8.5.10 for OSX 10.4 .  See:
>> 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/comp.lang.tcl/tcl$2Ftk8.5$20on$20OSX10.4/comp.lang.tcl/MquAc2uK6Es/dhpPNsIbAQoJ
>
> Thank you for the link. When using 8.5.10, do you see the X11 application show up when running a TK-based application? Did you ever try using --enable-aqua in the configure step?

Yes, the X11 version of TK works.  I have not tried an aqua version.

Re: [MACTCL] TK 8.5.19 building problem on Mac OS 10.4

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

On May 17, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Alan Greenberger wrote:

> On 2016-05-17, G 3 <pro...@gm...> wrote:
>> When I try to build Tk 8.5.19 on Mac OS 10.4.11, the build fails with
>> this message:
>> 
>> ln: ././Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish
>> Shell: No such file or directory
>> make[2]: *** [install-tk] Error 1
>> make[1]: *** [tk] Error 2
>> make: *** [develop] Error 2
>> 
>> Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
>> 
> 
> I was able to build 8.5.10 for OSX 10.4 .  See:
> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/comp.lang.tcl/tcl$2Ftk8.5$20on$20OSX10.4/comp.lang.tcl/MquAc2uK6Es/dhpPNsIbAQoJ

Thank you for the link. When using 8.5.10, do you see the X11 application show up when running a TK-based application? Did you ever try using --enable-aqua in the configure step?