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Re: [MACTCL] TK 8.5.19 building problem on Mac OS 10.4

[Alan G. <al...@pt...>]

On 2016-05-17, G 3 <pro...@gm...> wrote:
> When I try to build Tk 8.5.19 on Mac OS 10.4.11, the build fails with
> this message:
>
> ln: ././Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish
> Shell: No such file or directory
> make[2]: *** [install-tk] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [tk] Error 2
> make: *** [develop] Error 2
>
> Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
>

I was able to build 8.5.10 for OSX 10.4 .  See:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/comp.lang.tcl/tcl$2Ftk8.5$20on$20OSX10.4/comp.lang.tcl/MquAc2uK6Es/dhpPNsIbAQoJ

Re: [MACTCL] TK 8.5.19 building problem on Mac OS 10.4

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

On 5/17/16 4:04 PM, G 3 wrote:
> I tried 8.5.10 and 8.5.1. They both do not build successfully.

Without a more helpful error message, I have run out of ideas.

You are trying to build a deprecated version of Tk on an obsolete 
operating system, so options for supporting this are going to be quite 
limited at this point.

--Kevin

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com

Re: [MACTCL] TK 8.5.19 building problem on Mac OS 10.4

[G 3 <pro...@gm...>]

On 5/17/16, Kevin Walzer <kw...@co...> wrote:
> That is out of date. 8.5 switched to Cocoa midstream and does not run on
> 10.4. 8.5.10 and earlier should build ok.

I tried 8.5.10 and 8.5.1. They both do not build successfully.

>
>> On May 17, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On May 17, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/16/16 11:27 PM, G 3 wrote:
>>>> When I try to build Tk 8.5.19 on Mac OS 10.4.11, the build fails with
>>>> this message:
>>>>
>>>> ln:
>>>> ././Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish
>>>> Shell: No such file or directory
>>>> make[2]: *** [install-tk] Error 1
>>>> make[1]: *** [tk] Error 2
>>>> make: *** [develop] Error 2
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
>>> How are you building Tcl and Tk? The recommended method per the README is
>>> to cd to the parent directory, and run this command:
>>>
>>> make -C tk8.5.19/macosx
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> sudo make -C tk8.5.19/macosx install.
>>>
>>> Substitute version of Tk as needed.
>>>
>>> Having said this, 10.4 is not a supported OS; 10.5 is the minimum
>>> supported version since Tk switched over to Cocoa around 8.5.12 or so,
>>> and I actually think it won't run on 10.5 either because of some API
>>> changes. You may simply be unable to build it on 10.4.
>>>
>>> --Kevin
>> It said in the readme file that a minimum of Mac OS 10.3 is needed to
>> build TK.
>>
>
>

Re: [MACTCL] TK 8.5.19 building problem on Mac OS 10.4

[Kevan H. <ha...@br...>]

G3:

>> When I try to build Tk 8.5.19 on Mac OS 10.4.11, the build fails with
>> this message:

I built Tk 8.5.8 on OS 10.4.11. I am reading my own notes here (scroll 
down):

http://alignment.hep.brandeis.edu/Electronics/LWDAQ/Manual.html#MacOS

When compiling for both i386 and ppc I did this:

export CFLAGS="-arch ppc -arch i386 \
	-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk \
	-mmacosx-version-min=10.4"
make -C tcl/macosx embedded
make -C tk/macosx embedded

I tried various versions, I think 8.5.4-8.5.11, and compiled them all. 
(I chose 8.5.8 because it was the only one that was stable in my 
particular application.) But I did not get to 8.5.19.

So, if you can step back to 8.5.8, which I still use today, you can do 
it. But you need an ancient version of XCode, of course, with the 
MacOSX10.4u.sdk. I just found that dmg file on my hard drive, so you 
could download it with this link:

http://alignment.hep.brandeis.edu/Software/Archive/xcode25_8m2558_developerdvd.dmg

Kevin:
> Having said this, 10.4 is not a supported OS; 10.5 is the minimum 
> supported version since Tk switched over to Cocoa around 8.5.12 or so

That sounds about right.

> and I actually think it won't run on 10.5 either because of some API 
> changes. 

I have never put that to the test, but I suspect you are right, which is 
why I'm still using 8.5.8, so I can support 10.4, which runs on a bunch 
of ancient PPC laptops we have lying around doing data acquisition.

Yours, Kevan

-- 
Kevan Hashemi, Electrical Engineer
Physics Department, Brandeis University
http://alignment.hep.brandeis.edu/

Re: [MACTCL] TK 8.5.19 building problem on Mac OS 10.4

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

That is out of date. 8.5 switched to Cocoa midstream and does not run on 10.4. 8.5.10 and earlier should build ok. 

> On May 17, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Programmingkid <pro...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 17, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
>> 
>>> On 5/16/16 11:27 PM, G 3 wrote:
>>> When I try to build Tk 8.5.19 on Mac OS 10.4.11, the build fails with
>>> this message:
>>> 
>>> ln: ././Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish
>>> Shell: No such file or directory
>>> make[2]: *** [install-tk] Error 1
>>> make[1]: *** [tk] Error 2
>>> make: *** [develop] Error 2
>>> 
>>> Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
>> How are you building Tcl and Tk? The recommended method per the README is to cd to the parent directory, and run this command: 
>> 
>> make -C tk8.5.19/macosx
>> 
>> and 
>> 
>> sudo make -C tk8.5.19/macosx install.
>> 
>> Substitute version of Tk as needed. 
>> 
>> Having said this, 10.4 is not a supported OS; 10.5 is the minimum supported version since Tk switched over to Cocoa around 8.5.12 or so, and I actually think it won't run on 10.5 either because of some API changes. You may simply be unable to build it on 10.4. 
>> 
>> --Kevin
> It said in the readme file that a minimum of Mac OS 10.3 is needed to build TK. 
> 

Re: [MACTCL] TK 8.5.19 building problem on Mac OS 10.4

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

On May 17, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:

> On 5/16/16 11:27 PM, G 3 wrote:
>> When I try to build Tk 8.5.19 on Mac OS 10.4.11, the build fails with
>> this message:
>> 
>> ln: ././Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish
>> Shell: No such file or directory
>> make[2]: *** [install-tk] Error 1
>> make[1]: *** [tk] Error 2
>> make: *** [develop] Error 2
>> 
>> Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
>> 
>> 
> How are you building Tcl and Tk? The recommended method per the README is to cd to the parent directory, and run this command: 
> 
> make -C tk8.5.19/macosx
> 
> and 
> 
> sudo make -C tk8.5.19/macosx install.
> 
> Substitute version of Tk as needed. 
> 
> Having said this, 10.4 is not a supported OS; 10.5 is the minimum supported version since Tk switched over to Cocoa around 8.5.12 or so, and I actually think it won't run on 10.5 either because of some API changes. You may simply be unable to build it on 10.4. 
> 
> --Kevin 

I forgot to mention that Tcl 8.5 did build and install on Mac OS 10.4.

Re: [MACTCL] TK 8.5.19 building problem on Mac OS 10.4

[Programmingkid <pro...@gm...>]

On May 17, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:

> On 5/16/16 11:27 PM, G 3 wrote:
>> When I try to build Tk 8.5.19 on Mac OS 10.4.11, the build fails with
>> this message:
>> 
>> ln: ././Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish
>> Shell: No such file or directory
>> make[2]: *** [install-tk] Error 1
>> make[1]: *** [tk] Error 2
>> make: *** [develop] Error 2
>> 
>> Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
>> 
>> 
> How are you building Tcl and Tk? The recommended method per the README is to cd to the parent directory, and run this command: 
> 
> make -C tk8.5.19/macosx
> 
> and 
> 
> sudo make -C tk8.5.19/macosx install.
> 
> Substitute version of Tk as needed. 
> 
> Having said this, 10.4 is not a supported OS; 10.5 is the minimum supported version since Tk switched over to Cocoa around 8.5.12 or so, and I actually think it won't run on 10.5 either because of some API changes. You may simply be unable to build it on 10.4. 
> 
> --Kevin 
It said in the readme file that a minimum of Mac OS 10.3 is needed to build TK. 

Re: [MACTCL] TK 8.5.19 building problem on Mac OS 10.4

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

On 5/16/16 11:27 PM, G 3 wrote:
> When I try to build Tk 8.5.19 on Mac OS 10.4.11, the build fails with
> this message:
>
> ln: ././Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish
> Shell: No such file or directory
> make[2]: *** [install-tk] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [tk] Error 2
> make: *** [develop] Error 2
>
> Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
>
How are you building Tcl and Tk? The recommended method per the README 
is to cd to the parent directory, and run this command:

make -C tk8.5.19/macosx

and

sudo make -C tk8.5.19/macosx install.

Substitute version of Tk as needed.

Having said this, 10.4 is not a supported OS; 10.5 is the minimum 
supported version since Tk switched over to Cocoa around 8.5.12 or so, 
and I actually think it won't run on 10.5 either because of some API 
changes. You may simply be unable to build it on 10.4.

--Kevin

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com

[MACTCL] TK 8.5.19 building problem on Mac OS 10.4

[G 3 <pro...@gm...>]

When I try to build Tk 8.5.19 on Mac OS 10.4.11, the build fails with
this message:

ln: ././Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish
Shell: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [install-tk] Error 1
make[1]: *** [tk] Error 2
make: *** [develop] Error 2

Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?

Re: [MACTCL] installation from source problem

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

It is.  See the section on building. 

> On Apr 7, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Donald G Porter <don...@ni...> wrote:
> 
>> On 04/06/2016 03:00 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
>> See the Tk Aqua FAQ at the Tcl wiki for instructions on how to do this.
> 
> This information needs to be in the tcl/macosx/README file.
> 
> -- 
> | Don Porter            Applied and Computational Mathematics Division |
> | don...@ni...             Information Technology Laboratory |
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Re: [MACTCL] installation from source problem

[Donald G P. <don...@ni...>]

On 04/06/2016 03:00 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
> See the Tk Aqua FAQ at the Tcl wiki for instructions on how to do this.

This information needs to be in the tcl/macosx/README file.

-- 
| Don Porter            Applied and Computational Mathematics Division |
| don...@ni...             Information Technology Laboratory |
| http://math.nist.gov/~DPorter/                                  NIST |
|______________________________________________________________________|

Re: [MACTCL] installation from source problem

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

See the Tk Aqua FAQ at the Tcl wiki for instructions on how to do this. 

> On Apr 6, 2016, at 2:48 PM, Ketan Maheshwari <ket...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to install the full tcl in my $HOME area. However, it seems like tcl wants to put some stuff in the /Library and runs into error when I do make install as a non-root user.
> 
> Is there a way to install full TCL in my $HOME area with a mortal user rights?
> 
> My system specs are:
> 
> OS X version 10.11.4 El Capitan
> 
> The config line is:
> ./configure --prefix=/Users/ketan/soft/tcl/install --enable-framework
> 
> Error message is:
> 
> Making directory /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.6
> 
> mkdir: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework: Permission denied
> 
> mkdir: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework: No such file or directory
> 
> mkdir: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions: No such file or directory
> 
> Making directory /usr/local/bin
> 
> mkdir: /usr/local/bin: Permission denied
> 
> Making directory /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.6
> 
> mkdir: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework: Permission denied
> 
> mkdir: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework: No such file or directory
> 
> mkdir: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions: No such file or directory
> 
> make[2]: *** [install-binaries] Error 1
> 
> make[1]: *** [install-tcl] Error 2
> 
> make: *** [install-develop] Error 2
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ketan
> 
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[MACTCL] installation from source problem

[Ketan M. <ket...@gm...>]

Hello,

I would like to install the full tcl in my $HOME area. However, it seems
like tcl wants to put some stuff in the /Library and runs into error when I
do make install as a non-root user.

Is there a way to install full TCL in my $HOME area with a mortal user
rights?

My system specs are:

OS X version 10.11.4 El Capitan

The config line is:

./configure --prefix=/Users/ketan/soft/tcl/install --enable-framework
Error message is:

Making directory /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.6

mkdir: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework: Permission denied

mkdir: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework: No such file or directory

mkdir: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions: No such file or directory

Making directory /usr/local/bin

mkdir: /usr/local/bin: Permission denied

Making directory /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.6

mkdir: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework: Permission denied

mkdir: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework: No such file or directory

mkdir: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions: No such file or directory

make[2]: *** [install-binaries] Error 1

make[1]: *** [install-tcl] Error 2

make: *** [install-develop] Error 2

-- 
Ketan

[MACTCL] 1st Call For Papers - 23rd Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2016)

[<aku...@sh...>]

Hello tcl-mac, fyi ...

23rd Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2016)
http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2016/

November 14 - 18, 2016
Crowne Plaza Houston River Oaks
2712 Southwest Freeway, 77098
Houston, Texas, USA

Important Dates:

Abstracts and proposals due   September 12, 2016
Notification to authors       September 19, 2016
WIP and BOF reservations open August 22, 2016
Author materials due          October 24, 2016
Tutorials Start               November 14, 2016
Conference starts             November 16, 2016

Email Contact:                tcl...@go...

Submission of Summaries

Tcl/Tk 2016 will be held in Houston, Texas, USA from November 14, 2016 to November 18, 2016.

The program committee is asking for papers and presentation proposals
from anyone using or developing with Tcl/Tk (and extensions). Past
conferences have seen submissions covering a wide variety of topics
including:

* Scientific and engineering applications
* Industrial controls
* Distributed applications and Network Managment
* Object oriented extensions to Tcl/Tk
* New widgets for Tk
* Simulation and application steering with Tcl/Tk
* Tcl/Tk-centric operating environments
* Tcl/Tk on small and embedded devices
* Medical applications and visualization
* Use of different programming paradigms in Tcl/Tk and proposals for new
  directions.
* New areas of exploration for the Tcl/Tk language

Submissions should consist of an abstract of about 100 words and a
summary of not more than two pages, and should be sent as plain text
to tcl...@go... no later than September 12, 2016. Authors of accepted
abstracts will have until October 24, 2016 to submit their final
paper for the inclusion in the conference proceedings. The proceedings
will be made available on digital media, so extra materials such as
presentation slides, code examples, code for extensions etc. are
encouraged.

Printed proceedings will be produced as an on-demand book at lulu.com

The authors will have 30 minutes to present their paper at
the conference.

The program committee will review and evaluate papers according to the
following criteria:

* Quantity and quality of novel content
* Relevance and interest to the Tcl/Tk community
* Suitability of content for presentation at the conference

Proposals may report on commercial or non-commercial systems, but
those with only blatant marketing content will not be accepted.

Application and experience papers need to strike a balance between
background on the application domain and the relevance of Tcl/Tk to
the application. Application and experience papers should clearly
explain how the application or experience illustrates a novel use of
Tcl/Tk, and what lessons the Tcl/Tk community can derive from the
application or experience to apply to their own development efforts.

Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreements will be returned to
the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest
confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a
matter of policy and in accord with the U. S. Copyright Act of 1976.

The primary author for each accepted paper will receive registration
to the Technical Sessions portion of the conference at a reduced rate.

Other Forms of Participation

The program committee also welcomes proposals for panel discussions of
up to 90 minutes. Proposals should include a list of confirmed
panelists, a title and format, and a panel description with position
statements from each panelist. Panels should have no more than four
speakers, including the panel moderator, and should allow time for
substantial interaction with attendees. Panels are not presentations
of related research papers.

Slots for Works-in-Progress (WIP) presentations and Birds-of-a-Feather
sessions (BOFs) are available on a first-come, first-served basis
starting in August 22, 2016. Specific instructions for reserving WIP
and BOF time slots will be provided in the registration information
available in August 22, 2016. Some WIP and BOF time slots will be held open
for on-site reservation. All attendees with an interesting work in
progress should consider reserving a WIP slot.

Registration Information

More information on the conference is available the conference Web
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various Tcl/Tk-related information channels.

To keep in touch with news regarding the conference and Tcl events in
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   * Arjen Markus    Deltares
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   * Clif Flynt      Noumena Corp
   * Gerald Lester   KnG Consulting LLC
   * Joe Mistachkin  Mistachkin Systems
   * Ronald Fox      CAEN Technologies
                     NSCL @ Michigan State University

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Tcl'2016 would like to thank those who are sponsoring the conference:

   * Mentor Graphics
   * Tcl Community Association

Re: [MACTCL] Adding menu options to dock menu

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

On 12/18/15 5:19 PM, Trevor Williams wrote:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to add menu items to the contextual 
> dock menu (i.e., right-clicking on a dock icon) from a wish-based 
> application?  If so, what is required?
>
It's not currently supported--it requires hooks at the Cocoa level and 
would likely require coding an extension. I don't have time to do it, 
but the API doesn't seem too complicated. You can look at my mactoolbar 
extension for some ideas on how to map Cocoa selectors to a Tcl command.

--Kevin

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com

[MACTCL] Adding menu options to dock menu

[Trevor W. <pha...@ic...>]

[MACTCL] post to list

[Chad B. <cha...@ya...>]

email: cha...@ya...

Re: [MACTCL] Wish support for fullscreen/half-screen in El Capitan?

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

On 10/7/15 9:13 PM, Trevor Williams wrote:
> Just a quick question to see if there are plans to add support for full-screen/half-screen support to Wish on El Capitan?
I've installed 10.11 and have had a little time to play with the 
half-screen/full-screen API. Based on that, I'm going to rule out adding 
support for it in Tk.

My "fullscreen" extension actually does implement some of this 
functionality--pushing the green window button makes the app 
fullscreen--but adding the half-screen support is going to be very 
difficult. The first version of the fullscreen package let Cocoa handle 
all the window resizing; this would make the half-screen implementation 
possible, as well. But it came at a cost: it was very hard to track 
window state from Tk, which would get confused about screen geometry, 
correct size of widgets, etc.

The latest version of the extension overrides nearly all the Cocoa 
machinery and delegates the window resizing and management to Tk script 
level API's. Works much more smoothly (mostly by calling into wm 
attributes -fullscreen), but also would make the half-screen 
implementation pretty much impossible.

Hope this helps,
Kevin

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com

Re: [MACTCL] Wish support for fullscreen/half-screen in El Capitan?

[Trevor W. <pha...@me...>]

Thanks!

Trevor

Sent from my iPod

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Kevin Walzer <kw...@co...> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/7/15 9:13 PM, Trevor Williams wrote:
>> Just a quick question to see if there are plans to add support for full-screen/half-screen support to Wish on El Capitan?
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Not at present, as I haven't even installed El Capitan yet and have no 
> experience with these features either from an API or UX perspective. 
> (Won't get to El Capitan until after the Tcl conference, at the 
> earliest.)  If I do anything with it, it's more likely to be as an 
> extension rather than as an addition to the core.
> 
> --Kevin
> 
> -- 
> Kevin Walzer
> Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin
> http://www.codebykevin.com
> http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com
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Re: [MACTCL] Wish support for fullscreen/half-screen in El Capitan?

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

On 10/7/15 9:13 PM, Trevor Williams wrote:
> Just a quick question to see if there are plans to add support for full-screen/half-screen support to Wish on El Capitan?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Not at present, as I haven't even installed El Capitan yet and have no 
experience with these features either from an API or UX perspective. 
(Won't get to El Capitan until after the Tcl conference, at the 
earliest.)  If I do anything with it, it's more likely to be as an 
extension rather than as an addition to the core.

--Kevin

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com

[MACTCL] Wish support for fullscreen/half-screen in El Capitan?

[Trevor W. <pha...@gm...>]

Just a quick question to see if there are plans to add support for full-screen/half-screen support to Wish on El Capitan?

Re: [MACTCL] a more recent Togl for OpenGL/Tk

[Kevin W. <kw...@co...>]

Andy,

On 9/15/15 6:58 AM, Andy Colebourne wrote:
> This might be a general Mac compilation thing, but I'm not so experienced
> with the Mac.  Any suggestions welcome.
>
> I'm trying to compile the Togl that Kevin mentioned below, but keep getting
> CF_AVAILABLE related errors. This is with tcl/tk 6.1.
I can't speak to the specific errors you are seeing, but another 
actively-maintained version of Togl that seems to work with Cocoa is 
maintained here:

https://bitbucket.org/t3m/snappy/src/a3e18951148c204f48f3f91288a5a65d232a3a45/opengl/?at=default

SnapPy is an OpenGL/Tkinter-based tool for scientific visualization. Its 
co-author, Marc Culler, has contributed many of the recent advances in 
Tk/Cocoa.

I tried to build it and could not; it threw this error:

/usr/include/mach/mach.h:86:15: error: redefinition of 'tclStubsPtr' as
       different kind of symbol
extern void                     panic(const char *, ...);
                                 ^
/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Headers/tcl.h:2622:19: note: expanded from
       macro 'panic'
#   define panic                Tcl_Panic
                                 ^
I see this error a lot with Tcl extensions on 10.10, and it seems to 
arise because of how "panic" is defined in the Tcl and Cocoa headers. 
The solution I've found is to do something like this:

#include <tcl.h>
#include <tk.h>
#undef panic
#include <CoreFoundation/CoreFoundation.h>
#include <CoreServices/CoreServices.h>
#include <Carbon/Carbon.h>
#include <ApplicationServices/ApplicationServices.h>
#define panic Tcl_Panic

In other words, import the Tcl headers, undef panic, import the Mac 
headers, then re-define panic. That seems to work.

In the Togl package, the error seems to be thrown in togl.c. I don't 
have time to patch this for you, but I hope that this provides you some 
help.

Thanks,
Kevin

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com

Re: [MACTCL] a more recent Togl for OpenGL/Tk

[Andy C. <an...@ac...>]

This might be a general Mac compilation thing, but I'm not so experienced
with the Mac.  Any suggestions welcome.

I'm trying to compile the Togl that Kevin mentioned below, but keep getting
CF_AVAILABLE related errors. This is with tcl/tk 6.1.

Thanks,

Andy




gcc -c -arch i386 -I. -xobjective-c -g -DMAC -I../../tcl/generic
-I../../tk/generic -I../../tk/macosx -I../../tk/xlib -I../ttfont2/ftgl/src
-I../../lib3ds -fpermissive -arch i386 -Wno-write-strings -I../../tcl/unix
-DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1   src/togl.c -o src/togl.o
couldn't understand kern.osversion `14.4.0'
cc1obj: warning: command line option "-fpermissive" is valid for C++/ObjC++
but not for ObjC
In file included from
/System/Library/Frameworks/CFNetwork.framework/Headers/CFNetwork.h:27,
                 from
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Headers/CoreServices.h:37,
                 from
/System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Headers/NSURLError.h:17,
                 from
/System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Headers/Foundation.h:81,
                 from
/System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Headers/NSAnimation.h:9,
                 from
/System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Headers/NSView.h:13,
                 from src/togl.c:114:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CFNetwork.framework/Headers/CFNetworkErrors.h:41:
error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before
'CF_AVAILABLE'
In file included from
/System/Library/Frameworks/CFNetwork.framework/Headers/CFNetwork.h:27,
                 from
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Headers/CoreServices.h:37,
                 from
/System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Headers/NSURLError.h:17,
                 from
/System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Headers/Foundation.h:81,
                 from
/System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Headers/NSAnimation.h:9,
                 from
/System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Headers/NSView.h:13,
                 from src/togl.c:114:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CFNetwork.framework/Headers/CFNetworkErrors.h:41:
67: error: invalid suffix "_5" on integer constant




Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 07:09:00 -0400
From: Kevin  Walzer <kw...@co...>
Subject: Re: [MACTCL] a more recent Togl for OpenGL/Tk
To: tc...@li...
Message-ID: <55A...@co...>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

On 7/14/15 6:32 AM, Andy Colebourne wrote:
>
> I?ve been using Togl for a long time but with the newer OS X systems, 
> it seems that I can no longer use it.
>
> Has anyone made a new Togl that works with the recent Tcl/TK and OSX?
>
> Failing that ? any suggestions on how I can get a OpenGL window inside 
> my Tcl/Tk application would be most gratefully received.
>
> Andy
>
> www.ac3d.org <http://www.ac3d.org>
>
>

The Togl developers keep a Cocoa fork of Togl here:

http://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/trac/chimera/browser/trunk/foreign/Togl

If you use UCSF Chimera you will see it works fine.

Guess they have not gotten around to releasing it formally.

Kevin

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[MACTCL] 3rd Call For Papers - 22nd Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2015)

[<and...@ac...>]

Hello tcl-mac, fyi ...

22nd Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2015)
http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2015/

October 19 - 23, 2015
Comfort Suites Manassas
7350 Williamson Blvd, 20109
Manassas, Virginia, USA

[[ Attention! One month to the paper deadline ]]

[[ Attention! Registration is open! Please have a look at
   http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2015/register.html
]]

[[ Known Speakers
-- Keynotes

  * Kevin Walzer - Tk on the Mac: Past, Present, Future

-- Tutorials

  * Clif Flynt - Advanced Tcl: TclOO Intro
                 New Tcl/Tk Platforms --- Pi and Android

  * Gerald Lester - Introduction to Tcl 1
                    Introduction to Tcl 2
                    Introduction to Tk 1
                    Programming the Web with Tcl: A Survey of Tools, Tips and Tricks

  * Sean Woods - Advanced TclOO & Megawidgets in TclOO

]]

Important Dates:

Abstracts and proposals due   August 24, 2015
Notification to authors       August 31, 2015
WIP and BOF reservations open July 27, 2015
Hotel Room Release            August 25, 2015
Author materials due          September 28, 2015
Tutorials Start               October 19, 2015
Conference starts             October 21, 2015

Email Contact:                tcl...@go...

Submission of Summaries

Tcl/Tk 2015 will be held in Manassas, Virginia, USA from October 19, 2015 to October 23, 2015.

The program committee is asking for papers and presentation proposals
from anyone using or developing with Tcl/Tk (and extensions). Past
conferences have seen submissions covering a wide variety of topics
including:

* Scientific and engineering applications
* Industrial controls
* Distributed applications and Network Managment
* Object oriented extensions to Tcl/Tk
* New widgets for Tk
* Simulation and application steering with Tcl/Tk
* Tcl/Tk-centric operating environments
* Tcl/Tk on small and embedded devices
* Medical applications and visualization
* Use of different programming paradigms in Tcl/Tk and proposals for new
  directions.
* New areas of exploration for the Tcl/Tk language

Note:
    We are especially interested in papers for OS X this time, to
    complement the keynote.

Submissions should consist of an abstract of about 100 words and a
summary of not more than two pages, and should be sent as plain text
to tcl...@go... no later than August 24, 2015. Authors of accepted
abstracts will have until September 28, 2015 to submit their final
paper for the inclusion in the conference proceedings. The proceedings
will be made available on digital media, so extra materials such as
presentation slides, code examples, code for extensions etc. are
encouraged.

Printed proceedings will be produced as an on-demand book at lulu.com

The authors will have 30 minutes to present their paper at
the conference.

The program committee will review and evaluate papers according to the
following criteria:

* Quantity and quality of novel content
* Relevance and interest to the Tcl/Tk community
* Suitability of content for presentation at the conference

Proposals may report on commercial or non-commercial systems, but
those with only blatant marketing content will not be accepted.

Application and experience papers need to strike a balance between
background on the application domain and the relevance of Tcl/Tk to
the application. Application and experience papers should clearly
explain how the application or experience illustrates a novel use of
Tcl/Tk, and what lessons the Tcl/Tk community can derive from the
application or experience to apply to their own development efforts.

Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreements will be returned to
the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest
confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a
matter of policy and in accord with the U. S. Copyright Act of 1976.

The primary author for each accepted paper will receive registration
to the Technical Sessions portion of the conference at a reduced rate.

Other Forms of Participation

The program committee also welcomes proposals for panel discussions of
up to 90 minutes. Proposals should include a list of confirmed
panelists, a title and format, and a panel description with position
statements from each panelist. Panels should have no more than four
speakers, including the panel moderator, and should allow time for
substantial interaction with attendees. Panels are not presentations
of related research papers.

Slots for Works-in-Progress (WIP) presentations and Birds-of-a-Feather
sessions (BOFs) are available on a first-come, first-served basis
starting in July 27, 2015. Specific instructions for reserving WIP
and BOF time slots will be provided in the registration information
available in July 27, 2015. Some WIP and BOF time slots will be held open
for on-site reservation. All attendees with an interesting work in
progress should consider reserving a WIP slot.

Registration Information

More information on the conference is available the conference Web
site (http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2015/) and will be published on
various Tcl/Tk-related information channels.

To keep in touch with news regarding the conference and Tcl events in
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Conference Committee

   * Andreas Kupries  ActiveState Inc
   * Arjen Markus     Deltares
   * Brian Griffin    Mentor Graphics
   * Clif Flynt       Noumena Corp
   * Cynthia Lilagan  National Museum of Health & Medicine, Chicago
   * Donal Fellows    University of Manchester
   * Gerald Lester    KnG Consulting LLC
   * Jeff Hobbs       ActiveState Inc
   * Joe Mistachkin   Mistachkin Systems
   * Kevin Kenny      GE Global Research Center
   * Larry Virden
   * Mike Doyle       National Museum of Health & Medicine, Chicago
   * Ronald Fox       CAEN Technologies
                      NSCL @ Michigan State University
   * Steve Landers    Digital Smarties
   * Steve Redler, IV SR Technology

Contact Information     tcl...@go...

Tcl'2015 would like to thank those who are sponsoring the conference:

   * ActiveState Inc
   * Buonacorsi Foundation
   * Mentor Graphics
   * Noumena Corp
   * SR Technology
   * Tcl Community Association

[MACTCL] Change in access to Wish

[Ernest G. <eg...@us...>]

I run psychophysics experiments on a Mac Mini using custom Tcl apps.  I have the Wish icon on my Dock.  Previously, I could click the icon and it would open Wish.  Now that brings up a message saying something about the application being unavailable or disabled.  It will run if I bring it up through Terminal.

Can someone provide guidance for getting it to launch the way it did previously?

Thanks for any help you might provide.    —   Ernest

Professor Ernest Greene
Laboratory for Neurometric Research
Department of Psychology
University of Southern California