It is still a work in progress but I am creating a Hevelius sky culture. I
have used the Hubble Source high resolution scans where possible, for the rest
I am cleaning up images from Wikipedia etc.
There are still lots of missing constellations, and some of the existing
images need improving, but you can see the current incarnation
here.
Regards
Mark
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Good work indeed. I was thinking of doing this, but I never found the time and
patience needed for it. (Also, I didn't know about the HubbleSOURCE images.)
Are you going to modify the constellations to conform to the names and shapes
used in the Uranographia? For example, having Argo Navis instead of Carina,
Vela and Puppis?
About licensing: it is unclear, but it seems that HubbleSOURCE allow their
scans to be used only for non-commercial purposes.
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2010-07-30
Yep, I'll include image credits etc, the sky culture info files are really
just place holders at the moment. I thought I post the work so far here to get
some feedback on whether it is worth continuing with it.
The 'standard' 88 constellations need to be pruned down to 56(?) and the
asterism figures really need to be redrawn as Hevelius has his figures in
different orientations from modern forms.
Anybody seen any asterism figures that match the Hevelius etchings?
I guess we can class this as non-commerical usage of the Hubble images? :-)
I'll make the credit and license info a priority for the next incremental
bundle. Any idea on what license form I should use?
Mark
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A print of the copperplate engraving of Johann Bayer Uranometria Orion is
shown in wikipedia here. May be the
full set can be obtained from US Naval Observatory library as wikipedia says
they give permission to use it as long as the attribution is attached.
Khalid
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Good news! I contacted STSCI (Lucy Albert, CTSM) and the non-commercial use
statement is a mistake. They just ask that they are credited as follows:
In the case of the Hevelius images, we do ask that you just use the
credit line "Hevelius images courtesy of U.S. Naval Observatory and the
Space Telescope Science Institute".
So I believe this could now be included in Stellarium and other open source
software with no problem.
Rob
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OK, I've devoted a little more time to this project. I have added a credit to
the existing download and added a couple of new figures.
I now have better quality scans for all the non USNO & STSI originated images,
so I can replace some of the poorer quality images in the existing set as well
as add all the missing ones. This will be a future release.
A couple of questions...
Should I keep the modern constellations and 'fit' the Hevelius figures to them as best I can, or should I go with the constellations as defined by Hevelius?
I cannot find any 'stick' figures for the Hevelius constellations, anybody know of a source, or want to contribute them? Or leave the stick figures out all together?
It takes hours processing these figures to clean them up and remove the stars!
Cheers
Mark
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I would go with the constellations as defined by Hevelius. They will look
better and be historically accurate that way.
I do not think there are any Hevelius stick figures, certainly not by Hevelius
anyway. I would keep the western ones and just adjust as needed if they cross
into multiple Hevelius defined constellations.
Rob
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It is still a work in progress but I am creating a Hevelius sky culture. I
have used the Hubble Source high resolution scans where possible, for the rest
I am cleaning up images from Wikipedia etc.
There are still lots of missing constellations, and some of the existing
images need improving, but you can see the current incarnation
here.
Regards
Mark
Hi Mark,
Did you ever complete the Hevelius skyculture in the end? If you did, is there any chance I could get a copy of it?
Thanks so much! :)
Bobby.
Last edit: Bobby Shailer 2019-08-30
Nice work! It would be good to include image credits and license info.
Good work indeed. I was thinking of doing this, but I never found the time and
patience needed for it. (Also, I didn't know about the HubbleSOURCE images.)
Are you going to modify the constellations to conform to the names and shapes
used in the Uranographia? For example, having Argo Navis instead of Carina,
Vela and Puppis?
About licensing: it is unclear, but it seems that HubbleSOURCE allow their
scans to be used only for non-commercial purposes.
Yep, I'll include image credits etc, the sky culture info files are really
just place holders at the moment. I thought I post the work so far here to get
some feedback on whether it is worth continuing with it.
The 'standard' 88 constellations need to be pruned down to 56(?) and the
asterism figures really need to be redrawn as Hevelius has his figures in
different orientations from modern forms.
Anybody seen any asterism figures that match the Hevelius etchings?
I guess we can class this as non-commerical usage of the Hubble images? :-)
I'll make the credit and license info a priority for the next incremental
bundle. Any idea on what license form I should use?
Mark
A print of the copperplate engraving of Johann Bayer Uranometria Orion is
shown in wikipedia
here. May be the
full set can be obtained from US Naval Observatory library as wikipedia says
they give permission to use it as long as the attribution is attached.
Khalid
Good news! I contacted STSCI (Lucy Albert, CTSM) and the non-commercial use
statement is a mistake. They just ask that they are credited as follows:
So I believe this could now be included in Stellarium and other open source
software with no problem.
Rob
OK, I've devoted a little more time to this project. I have added a credit to
the existing download and added a couple of new figures.
I now have better quality scans for all the non USNO & STSI originated images,
so I can replace some of the poorer quality images in the existing set as well
as add all the missing ones. This will be a future release.
A couple of questions...
Should I keep the modern constellations and 'fit' the Hevelius figures to them as best I can, or should I go with the constellations as defined by Hevelius?
I cannot find any 'stick' figures for the Hevelius constellations, anybody know of a source, or want to contribute them? Or leave the stick figures out all together?
It takes hours processing these figures to clean them up and remove the stars!
Cheers
Mark
I would go with the constellations as defined by Hevelius. They will look
better and be historically accurate that way.
I do not think there are any Hevelius stick figures, certainly not by Hevelius
anyway. I would keep the western ones and just adjust as needed if they cross
into multiple Hevelius defined constellations.
Rob
OK, enough messing around with PhotoShop!
I am releasing what I have as version 1.0
It now contains all 79 constellations, in name anyway, a few are combined into
single images.
All the non-USNO/HSTSi images are now of 'reasonable' quality - at least I
think so :)
As before you can download the file from
here
spectacular.
However I looked at the sky and never saw any of those pictures! Just stars!
Barry
I see the Hubble Site is using Stellarium and this sky culture to produce
their monthly "Tonight's Sky" guide...
http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/tonights_sky/
Actually looking more closely I think they are using their own versions of the
images - ones they haven't released to the public (?yet)